winamp3

lilsly2004 · 9th January 2001, 23:19

i love winamp and all but i wish they would get their shit together and get winamp 3 out when it was suppose to be out a while ago... thats all i got to say please get it out soon cause i cant wait no longer for it i bet it is going to be awesome !

Matt · 9th January 2001, 23:23

How many more Winamp 3 threads do we have to endure?

lilsly2004 · 9th January 2001, 23:36

till we r tired of posting them plus im pissed it isnt here yet and i want it real bad like some other people said its like going in a candyshop with no money its no fun to wait for winamp3 they got our hoped up then it never came

cascade2 · 10th January 2001, 00:43

mimimniwinamp3minimmmnimiminotoutyetwawawwaawaatheyoweusmiimiwaawaaBULLSHIT. can we all just relax about this please? i know this getting tired but shut the fuck up and stop whining. it'll be done when its done. k? now drop it.

Gimpi McLimpi · 10th January 2001, 18:18

Cascade2, I'd say that you're the one that needs to calm down.

If anyone at Nullsoft, or anyone in the forum, is getting tired of people bitching about WA3 not baing done, TOUGH! They brought it on themselves by posting things in Winamp 3 Beta News like 'Winamp 3 IS HERE' and 'It'll make a great x-mas gift'

If it's not done till it's done, then don't get ppl all hyped up with messages saying 'almost there!'... you think I like checking back EVERY DAY to see if there is even an update to the (not) weekly status???

sheesh...

cascade2 · 10th January 2001, 19:22

heh my blood pressure is thru the roof.....

Bilbo Baggins · 10th January 2001, 22:25

Mine went through the roof ages ago, which is why i am now a red fountain

carlito_au · 11th January 2001, 04:35

cascade2 · 13th January 2001, 19:25

bilbo, dr ******? are you sure you know where all ya blood went?

Bilbo Baggins · 13th January 2001, 22:03

I did say top of my head(

) didn't I.

fish · 13th January 2001, 22:09

p.s. link to this post for every new WA3 thread so they'll see what we see every day

fish · 14th January 2001, 14:50

nobody seems to appreciate me ...

John M · 14th January 2001, 18:37

holy shit... how long did that take u

s1138 · 14th January 2001, 18:58

holy shit!

fish · 15th January 2001, 00:36

Quote:

Originally posted by John M
holy shit... how long did that take u

not that long, actually. (hey, it's the weekend

)

Matt · 15th January 2001, 00:39

So just how bored did you get during the weekend?

fish · 15th January 2001, 00:41

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt
So just how bored did you get during the weekend?

reeellllyyyy bored

Aeroe · 15th January 2001, 04:27

where's whineamp 3?
where's whineamp 3?
where's whineamp 3?

hehehe

Winsane · 15th January 2001, 18:57

And another:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39118

Winsane · 17th January 2001, 18:35

ElChevelle · 17th January 2001, 19:21

Choo.....Choo........
The idiot train has a wireless modem apparently!

nateJC · 17th January 2001, 23:23

I know. Winamp 3 is taking long enough w/o them saying stuff like

"ooh, we want to tell you how cool this shiznit is gonna be and we wanna show screenshots and upload beta versions...but we CAN'T! YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOREVER YOU LITTLE TOOL! HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!"

Maybe if they keep Justin away from the computer, it'll go faster 'cause we all know the mantra: Justin CAN'T code!

-Nate

drake · 18th January 2001, 00:09

OK I have mized views and opinions but here they are.

I agree that Nullsoft brought it on themselves by saying "with that in mind it just might make a good Xmas present." Never claim something will be out for christmas and then not have it ready. Very disapointed people after it. Anyone remember the Brood War Exp. for SC was going to come out for Christmas and never did. I was mad!!!

Yet view number to is people have to remember that this program is free and that bitching about the release date won't solve a thing. Think about it. If you were designing something and you couldn't quite finish it in time would people bitching about it being late help you to get it out. Give the guys at Nullsoft a break. After all Winamp 2.x is the top rated Mp3 Program on the market AND ITS FREE

Silveryn · 18th January 2001, 00:49

Completely agree with everything Drake_2 said. Nullsoft did bring it on themselves by implying a delivery date they clearly couldn't keep and not one they couldn't keep by a few days but by weeks. Maybe they overestimated their own abilities.
But having said that it is free and myself personally i'm not overly worried when it comes out. My Winamp spends most of its life as a icon in the system tray so all this playlist stuff and free form skinning is only of minor interest to me. God bless them for putting all this in but really people, its just an mp3 player. Some people are going to be seriously disappointed, wait for the bitching then! lol.

ElChevelle · 18th January 2001, 14:02

You people really need to find more life or death topics to bitch about. Last I knew no one died due to a lack of release of anything, 'cept maybe bodily fluids.

Brennan · 18th January 2001, 22:21

You guys don't know the real story. We weren't trying to be secretive just to be dicks. I also honestly thought we'd be able to release something around Christmas. What was that? I talked about being able to release something, not whether it was ready to release... hmm... significant? Ya think?

Anyway, now that we're clear to release, we're just going through that 2-3 week period any project requires to be polished up to the point where other people can install and use it. No, Winamp 3 is not done. It may never be "done". This will just be the first alpha test release. There will be zillions of test releases after, and then betas once we get a developer SDK together, then normal releases after that. (And someday, god forbid, 4.0)

Gawd, I hate being all secretive and shit. We're going to get our work to you ASAP.

Also, Justin is no longer a coder on the project at this point. He's told me he is bored of client programming, so he's serving as, um, "creative consultant"(?) while he pursues other programming prospects. But he did write the original version of the playback core, and did some valuable work on the skinned popup menus.

--Brennan

Aeroe · 18th January 2001, 22:25

Yeah, probably will be like 2 new features I won't ever use. 3.0 will fix like 4-5 bugs and add 9-10 more due to added features.

This is gonna hurt, I'm more interested in the Sonique 2 release.

On a lighter note, has anyone seen a company that has EVER released on schedule? Maybe they just use a programmer calender, if release = today then delay

ElChevelle · 18th January 2001, 23:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Aeroe
This is gonna hurt, I'm more interested in the Sonique 2 release.

One guess who doesn't like you.

nateJC · 19th January 2001, 00:48

Make that two people. Sonique is garbage. If you're desperate for a new player, use k-jofol [http://www.kjofol.org/] (if you need a lot of features) or Freeamp [http://www.freeamp.org/](if you don't)

Twilightseer · 19th January 2001, 10:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Aeroe

This is gonna hurt, I'm more interested in the Sonique 2 release.

Oh yeah ? And why is that ?

Aeroe · 19th January 2001, 15:16

Why Sonique, basically the promises to clean up the playlist, which is why I like Winamp about the same. Something like "a playlist that won't suck" is mentioned. In the next version.

I don't consider it really any worse a player than Winamp, doesn't load slow for me, no crashing or doesn't confuse me.
Just the playlist sucks. It being garbage is a bit much, it's growing popularity is a call for Winamp to do something. We Need the competition so they both work their asses off and produce something better every time.

Basically.

(looks like Homestead killed my signature pic)

ElChevelle · 19th January 2001, 15:38

Playlists aren't the only difference between Winamp and Loseamp. 'Sides, I don't consider them competition, just a stepstool.

justin · 19th January 2001, 19:42

It's worth noting that I'm also working on a lot of the things that Winamp 3 will need that aren't tied to it. I.e. AVS, NSIS, common network code, etc.

-Justin

Quote:

Originally posted by Brennan

You guys don't know the real story. We weren't trying to be secretive just to be dicks. I also honestly thought we'd be able to release something around Christmas. What was that? I talked about being able to release something, not whether it was ready to release... hmm... significant? Ya think?

Anyway, now that we're clear to release, we're just going through that 2-3 week period any project requires to be polished up to the point where other people can install and use it. No, Winamp 3 is not done. It may never be "done". This will just be the first alpha test release. There will be zillions of test releases after, and then betas once we get a developer SDK together, then normal releases after that. (And someday, god forbid, 4.0)

Gawd, I hate being all secretive and shit. We're going to get our work to you ASAP.

Also, Justin is no longer a coder on the project at this point. He's told me he is bored of client programming, so he's serving as, um, "creative consultant"(?) while he pursues other programming prospects. But he did write the original version of the playback core, and did some valuable work on the skinned popup menus.

--Brennan

ElChevelle · 19th January 2001, 20:12

Of course you are, Justin.
Had a feeling your hands weren't full enough with 2.X upgrades.

goblin · 20th January 2001, 04:21

What, exactly, could WA3 POSSIBLY do to make it worth all this hype???

I'm using Winamp 2.72, just like the rest of you I expect. (Thanks for the RH song, by the way.) WA2x is a brilliant music player. It plays every music file imaginable, and even some videos, it's compact, it's easy to use, it's just about the most unobtrusive program I own (c/f RealPlayer, for example...), it's very skinnable, it's fast, it's free, and it's stable and does what you want. (I have gotten it to crash occasionally, but then I do overload my system far more than is remotely sensible.)

Anyway, to stop the rambling: Winamp 2.x is GREAT. It works FINE. Winamp 3 won't improve on very much, because there's very little left to improve! Sorry to break it to you, guys, but Winamp 3 will be a MUSIC PLAYER. Just like Winamp 2. It's NOT going to deliver your pizza or train you in assassination!

Winsane · 20th January 2001, 06:13

Quote:

Originally posted by goblin
It plays every music file imaginable

Well, it doesn't yet play NeoGeo music ROMs, compressed AIFC files, MO3s, and probably a few other formats.

Quote:

It's NOT going to train you in assassination!

Damn!

Swanson · 20th January 2001, 09:00

Quote:

Originally posted by goblin
Winamp 2.x is GREAT. It works FINE. Winamp 3 won't improve on very much, because there's very little left to improve!

Not to mention that Winamp is a freeware program. Nullsoft has no obligation to make upgrades for us. My point? To all the people crying because Winamp 3 hasn't been released yet, KNOCK IT OFF! It'll be released when they want to release it!

Thor · 20th January 2001, 09:51

Quote:

Originally posted by justin
It's worth noting that I'm also working on a lot of the things that Winamp 3 will need that aren't tied to it. I.e. AVS, NSIS, common network code, etc.

-Justin

I really respect your work Justin ! You rule !

nateJC · 22nd January 2001, 05:11

If I even hear the words "Winamp 3" again (other than "Winamp 3 has been released!") I'm gonna go nuts! Look, Winamp 3 is going to be a music player just like anything else. It'll look a little different and FINALLY have a skin editor packaged with it and have a few other goodies, but after 10 minutes, you'll all be bored with the glitzy crap and WA3 will settle its way right into your daily life unnoticed. If you're that damn bored, learn a programming language and build your own MP3 player, like I did in Visual Basic! (It's called aMP3, if you want an early beta copy email me, but be warned it sucks ass and probably will even after it's finished. It has a cool logo though.) Just my 6.02x10^23 pesos worth. (approximate USD value: $0.02)

Brennan · 22nd January 2001, 17:26

Quote:

It's worth noting that I'm also working on a lot of the things that Winamp 3 will need that aren't tied to it. I.e. AVS, NSIS, common network code, etc.

-Justin

Absolutely. Justin is still Official King Dick Koder for Nullsoft.

He's just not the one to blame if Winamp3 sucks.

--Brennan

11th January 2001, 04:35	#8
carlito_au Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia, Earth Posts: 462	how many bloody posts are there on winamp 3! in the last few days... here are some i remember http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38682 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38612 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38697 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38526 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38608 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38537 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38284 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38372 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37995 the list could go on and on and on forever! [ Check Out My Site! - & My Forums ]

13th January 2001, 22:03	#10
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,232	I did say top of my head() didn't I.

13th January 2001, 22:09	#11
fish Pretty Cool Guy Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cle, OH, USA Posts: 4,847	this is seriously overkill, but this is every WA3 thread I can find. 1) I did not start any of these threads 2) some of them are actually very useful, i.e., KidA's WA3 screenshot thread and the ones about WA3 skinning. but about 80% of them were things like "when will it be here" etc, etc, etc... http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38608 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38770 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38612 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38763 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38697 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38372 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38526 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38537 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37995 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38319 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38199 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38281 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38101 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38232 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37897 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=38026 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37781 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=35626 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37327 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37358 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37284 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37233 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=37008 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=36759 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=36646 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=36447 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=21031 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=35591 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=35589 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=24623 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20883 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20873 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20748 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=32589 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=36144 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20661 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=26503 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20611 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=36130 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=26466 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=26432 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20423 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20384 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20363 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=24559 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20300 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20261 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20260 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20259 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20230 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20199 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20145 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20121 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20095 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=20019 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=35807 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19788 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=24448 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19730 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19638 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19599 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19595 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=22404 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=22403 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19524 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19455 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19453 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=26003 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19445 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=22236 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=22214 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=23444 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19318 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19316 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=35664 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19298 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19283 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=22182 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19277 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19124 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19117 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=19077 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=18804 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=21922 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=21838 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=18682 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=21813 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=18617 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=18549 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=18456 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=18432 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=23188 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=18399 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=21584 phew! thank god for automatic url parsing!! p.s. link to this post for every new WA3 thread so they'll see what we see every day eh, heh.

14th January 2001, 14:50	#12
fish Pretty Cool Guy Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cle, OH, USA Posts: 4,847	nobody seems to appreciate me ... eh, heh.

14th January 2001, 18:37	#13
John M Puts the Cuss in General Discussions (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cincy, Ohio Posts: 3,624	holy shit... how long did that take u missyob made me post this.

9th January 2001, 23:19	#1
lilsly2004 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4	i love winamp and all but i wish they would get their shit together and get winamp 3 out when it was suppose to be out a while ago... thats all i got to say please get it out soon cause i cant wait no longer for it i bet it is going to be awesome !

9th January 2001, 23:23	#2
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,397	How many more Winamp 3 threads do we have to endure?

9th January 2001, 23:36	#3
lilsly2004 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4	till we r tired of posting them plus im pissed it isnt here yet and i want it real bad like some other people said its like going in a candyshop with no money its no fun to wait for winamp3 they got our hoped up then it never came

10th January 2001, 00:43	#4
cascade2 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 35	mimimniwinamp3minimmmnimiminotoutyetwawawwaawaatheyoweusmiimiwaawaaBULLSHIT. can we all just relax about this please? i know this getting tired but shut the fuck up and stop whining. it'll be done when its done. k? now drop it.

10th January 2001, 18:18	#5
Gimpi McLimpi Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Far out in left field Posts: 1	Cascade2, I'd say that you're the one that needs to calm down. If anyone at Nullsoft, or anyone in the forum, is getting tired of people bitching about WA3 not baing done, TOUGH! They brought it on themselves by posting things in Winamp 3 Beta News like 'Winamp 3 IS HERE' and 'It'll make a great x-mas gift' If it's not done till it's done, then don't get ppl all hyped up with messages saying 'almost there!'... you think I like checking back EVERY DAY to see if there is even an update to the (not) weekly status??? sheesh...

10th January 2001, 19:22	#6
cascade2 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 35	heh my blood pressure is thru the roof.....

10th January 2001, 22:25	#7
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,232	Mine went through the roof ages ago, which is why i am now a red fountain

13th January 2001, 19:25	#9
cascade2 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 35	bilbo, dr ******? are you sure you know where all ya blood went?

14th January 2001, 18:58	#14
s1138 Alumni? Join Date: May 2000 Location: joja Posts: 6,932	holy shit!

15th January 2001, 00:39	#16
Matt Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: England Posts: 3,397	So just how bored did you get during the weekend?

15th January 2001, 04:27	#18
Aeroe Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Assembly Hall Posts: 1,446	where's whineamp 3? where's whineamp 3? where's whineamp 3? hehehe "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

15th January 2001, 18:57	#19
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	And another: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39118

17th January 2001, 18:35	#20
Winsane Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: U.S. (eastern time zone) Posts: 2,598	And some more: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39154 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39329 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39361 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39364 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39371 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39472 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39482 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39495 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39531 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=39564 [Edited by Winsane on 01-20-2001 at 02:20 AM]

17th January 2001, 19:21	#21
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,406	Choo.....Choo........ The idiot train has a wireless modem apparently!

17th January 2001, 23:23	#22
nateJC Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: an interstella burst i'm back to save the universe Posts: 953	I know. Winamp 3 is taking long enough w/o them saying stuff like "ooh, we want to tell you how cool this shiznit is gonna be and we wanna show screenshots and upload beta versions...but we CAN'T! YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOREVER YOU LITTLE TOOL! HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!" Maybe if they keep Justin away from the computer, it'll go faster 'cause we all know the mantra: Justin CAN'T code! -Nate

18th January 2001, 00:09	#23
drake Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 629	OK I have mized views and opinions but here they are. I agree that Nullsoft brought it on themselves by saying "with that in mind it just might make a good Xmas present." Never claim something will be out for christmas and then not have it ready. Very disapointed people after it. Anyone remember the Brood War Exp. for SC was going to come out for Christmas and never did. I was mad!!! Yet view number to is people have to remember that this program is free and that bitching about the release date won't solve a thing. Think about it. If you were designing something and you couldn't quite finish it in time would people bitching about it being late help you to get it out. Give the guys at Nullsoft a break. After all Winamp 2.x is the top rated Mp3 Program on the market AND ITS FREE Work in Progress K-Jofol will never die as long as I don't lose or damage the backup!

18th January 2001, 00:49	#24
Silveryn Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 45	Completely agree with everything Drake_2 said. Nullsoft did bring it on themselves by implying a delivery date they clearly couldn't keep and not one they couldn't keep by a few days but by weeks. Maybe they overestimated their own abilities. But having said that it is free and myself personally i'm not overly worried when it comes out. My Winamp spends most of its life as a icon in the system tray so all this playlist stuff and free form skinning is only of minor interest to me. God bless them for putting all this in but really people, its just an mp3 player. Some people are going to be seriously disappointed, wait for the bitching then! lol.

18th January 2001, 14:02	#25
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,406	You people really need to find more life or death topics to bitch about. Last I knew no one died due to a lack of release of anything, 'cept maybe bodily fluids.

18th January 2001, 22:21	#26
Brennan Monkey Hump Master Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 782	You guys don't know the real story. We weren't trying to be secretive just to be dicks. I also honestly thought we'd be able to release something around Christmas. What was that? I talked about being able to release something, not whether it was ready to release... hmm... significant? Ya think? Anyway, now that we're clear to release, we're just going through that 2-3 week period any project requires to be polished up to the point where other people can install and use it. No, Winamp 3 is not done. It may never be "done". This will just be the first alpha test release. There will be zillions of test releases after, and then betas once we get a developer SDK together, then normal releases after that. (And someday, god forbid, 4.0) Gawd, I hate being all secretive and shit. We're going to get our work to you ASAP. Also, Justin is no longer a coder on the project at this point. He's told me he is bored of client programming, so he's serving as, um, "creative consultant"(?) while he pursues other programming prospects. But he did write the original version of the playback core, and did some valuable work on the skinned popup menus. --Brennan

18th January 2001, 22:25	#27
Aeroe Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Assembly Hall Posts: 1,446	Yeah, probably will be like 2 new features I won't ever use. 3.0 will fix like 4-5 bugs and add 9-10 more due to added features. This is gonna hurt, I'm more interested in the Sonique 2 release. On a lighter note, has anyone seen a company that has EVER released on schedule? Maybe they just use a programmer calender, if release = today then delay "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

19th January 2001, 00:48	#29
nateJC Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: an interstella burst i'm back to save the universe Posts: 953	Make that two people. Sonique is garbage. If you're desperate for a new player, use k-jofol [http://www.kjofol.org/] (if you need a lot of features) or Freeamp [http://www.freeamp.org/](if you don't)

19th January 2001, 15:16	#31
Aeroe Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Assembly Hall Posts: 1,446	Why Sonique, basically the promises to clean up the playlist, which is why I like Winamp about the same. Something like "a playlist that won't suck" is mentioned. In the next version. I don't consider it really any worse a player than Winamp, doesn't load slow for me, no crashing or doesn't confuse me. Just the playlist sucks. It being garbage is a bit much, it's growing popularity is a call for Winamp to do something. We Need the competition so they both work their asses off and produce something better every time. Basically. (looks like Homestead killed my signature pic)

19th January 2001, 15:38	#32
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,406	Playlists aren't the only difference between Winamp and Loseamp. 'Sides, I don't consider them competition, just a stepstool.

19th January 2001, 20:12	#34
ElChevelle Moderator Alumni Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the MANCANNON! Posts: 22,406	Of course you are, Justin. Had a feeling your hands weren't full enough with 2.X upgrades.

20th January 2001, 04:21	#35
goblin Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 45	What, exactly, could WA3 POSSIBLY do to make it worth all this hype??? I'm using Winamp 2.72, just like the rest of you I expect. (Thanks for the RH song, by the way.) WA2x is a brilliant music player. It plays every music file imaginable, and even some videos, it's compact, it's easy to use, it's just about the most unobtrusive program I own (c/f RealPlayer, for example...), it's very skinnable, it's fast, it's free, and it's stable and does what you want. (I have gotten it to crash occasionally, but then I do overload my system far more than is remotely sensible.) Anyway, to stop the rambling: Winamp 2.x is GREAT. It works FINE. Winamp 3 won't improve on very much, because there's very little left to improve! Sorry to break it to you, guys, but Winamp 3 will be a MUSIC PLAYER. Just like Winamp 2. It's NOT going to deliver your pizza or train you in assassination!

22nd January 2001, 05:11	#39
nateJC Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: an interstella burst i'm back to save the universe Posts: 953	If I even hear the words "Winamp 3" again (other than "Winamp 3 has been released!") I'm gonna go nuts! Look, Winamp 3 is going to be a music player just like anything else. It'll look a little different and FINALLY have a skin editor packaged with it and have a few other goodies, but after 10 minutes, you'll all be bored with the glitzy crap and WA3 will settle its way right into your daily life unnoticed. If you're that damn bored, learn a programming language and build your own MP3 player, like I did in Visual Basic! (It's called aMP3, if you want an early beta copy email me, but be warned it sucks ass and probably will even after it's finished. It has a cool logo though.) Just my 6.02x10^23 pesos worth. (approximate USD value: $0.02)

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