Old 9th August 2003, 05:03   #41
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whew! ok... now that I look at it though I feel stupid for not noticing all the green smilies.... to quick to reply I guess

Its a good thing though.... I was worried so I started looking up how to do 3d scopes and I made my frist one! HAHAH!!! still confused but Im finally learning! now Im really exited to see what I can do when Im under pressure!



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Old 9th August 2003, 06:52   #42
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Old 9th August 2003, 10:16   #43
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it'll come, don't worry. And it'll start easy for sure, so don't worry about that either.

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Old 9th August 2003, 10:48   #44
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uh hello everybody

I'd like to join the contest, is it still possble to sign me up??
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Old 9th August 2003, 10:50   #45
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Sure, join the club . The more the better.

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Old 9th August 2003, 17:27   #46
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Old 9th August 2003, 21:45   #47
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Would join as a judge if I had time, I'm back to the island I'm spending my vacation on on Tuesday and won't return till 15th-18th August. I probably could start judging with the second round or something.
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Old 9th August 2003, 22:33   #48
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jheriko, cause of those "suggestions", i am hiring a hitman, well i would if i had the money. you lucked out.
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Old 9th August 2003, 22:50   #49
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You really shouldn't start scaring the newer guys among us away . I don't even know what a squartic DM is.

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A quartic DM is a DM that would allow some really cool looking surfaces, such as the torus. Jheriko and UnConeD have tried doing it, but can't seem to get it to work right(jheriko can't anyways).
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Old 10th August 2003, 05:25   #51
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Quartic DMs are raytracing DMs that can solve problems in form of x^4+ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0, http://mathworld.wolfram.com/QuarticEquation.html for in-depth... the maths behind it is complex, which is why most of us are leaving the work to the two of them

Quartic surfaces include Chmutov Surface (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ChmutovSurface.html), Goursat's Surface (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GoursatsSurface.html), Torus (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GoursatsSurface.html), and a shitload more.

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Old 10th August 2003, 07:06   #52
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lets not fill this thread up with more codey drivel. Tugg has said that he doesnt have time to enter, even when he gets back from his hol.

But ill ask him again next time he's o/l just to be sure =D
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Old 10th August 2003, 17:07   #53
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sounds cool, and damn hard . Too bad to hear Tug will probably not join. . Any more people who want to join, or can we start discussing when to start the tournament? (that does not mean I suggest we start right away, just merely thinking about it).

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Old 10th August 2003, 21:07   #54
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how about you guys get your ideas of themes ready, and begin whenever

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Old 11th August 2003, 01:44   #56
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I thought were starting on tuesday because of Atero?

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Old 11th August 2003, 07:27   #57
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More ideas for topics:

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Old 11th August 2003, 08:37   #58
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Jeeeeez, another tournament?

Yeah, why not, i'm in

Btw, we had a couple of damn good ideas what could be done better in the judging system (see last tournament thread) so please remember them BEFORE we start this one.

I think it was like this:

We need one coordinator who gets the presets by mail.
After a round is done, presets are randomly renamed and send here, then every contestant can judge them (except his own preset).

The votes are send to the coordinator again and he publishes the result.


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Old 11th August 2003, 09:26   #59
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That indeed would be fairer, though it complicates things a lot. I like the general idea of the coordinator, though I don't like the idea of having to mail all the presets instead of posting them here. Also I can't see other peoples work (though that's fairer too ). We didn't have any problems with judging last round, so why change it? Ah well, I guess it's up to the judges. The idea is good .

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The basic things i dont like about the other system is that you can do only one thing, judge or create. Both would'nt be only fairer, it would give all Members the possibility to evaluate the other presets which i would prefere.

And the mailing thing is just fine. If the first posted Preset is some SupertechyUnConeDlikeawesomelooking stuff, the reaction among newbies is "OMG, i could never do something this good" which is fairly disappointing right at the start.

Its just a suggestion. Take it or leave it, i won't mind.


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Old 11th August 2003, 11:39   #61
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having 3 judges is fair enough. If we would start a system which means everyone rates everybody's preset, that would go way too slow. Mostly because of people who aren't regulars or have dial-up connections and cannot therefor check everytime to rate every preset. I've changed my mind about the mailing thingie, I guess it's do-able just fine . And it's up to the judges to make some good topics about what we should do. I'm sure they'll start of easy for the newbies.

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I don't really think they'd launch a topic like raytracing and if they did, i'd make up SSC ray and a SSC Crosshair that "traces" along the ray


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We aren't going to be choosing any topics where you have to have any sort of advanced knowledge. All of our topics will be more or less "themes" that you build your presets around.

As for judging, I see nothing wrong with what we did last time. Having everyone judge would make it end up taking a really long time.
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I agree that there is no real point in such a convoluted judging system... it will just slow things down, even though it is fairer and generally better.

I wish I never made that post... it seems to have caused general disarray.. it was meant to be a joke.

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we know , don't worry.

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Yeah, i just made another one with the "raytrcing" preset


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I'm waiting on Ishan's reply right now. I gave him some suggestions about the topic and such. Once he replies, and everyone gets back from vacation then we'll start. WOOT!
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I'm waiting on Ishan's reply right now. I gave him some suggestions about the topic and such. Once he replies, and everyone gets back from vacation then we'll start. WOOT!
Thanks for clearing that up

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Me in, need sleep and recover from booze week now, just count me in.

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Good to hear

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Who has still got to get back from vacation? Only Skupers, right?
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Atero too, I think.
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hey i'm back i had gone out for a couple of days.
many people have joined. thats good

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Old 12th August 2003, 16:41   #73
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Ishan convinced me to join the tournament too.
So it seems that i'm in!
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15 people so far, and atero should be back today. Is skupers gonna be in it?

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Akuso
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dunno, we're waiting for him to reply. Till that time signups are open to every one. After that I think we can get started .

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We do that though, and we'll have like 7 rounds. That's a lot of rounds. If that's what everyone wants then let's do that. Opinions anyone?
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I think we should make it last a while.... maybe 3 a round
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maybe 2 - 3 peops a round
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Hmmm. Why do we kick anyone? We could sum up the points from every round in the end instead, so it will last as long peopel like! Besides this is much fairer, because noone gets kicked because he got a topic he couldnt be creative enough with.

(This has been proposed before and the majority agreed)


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Sounds good. It'll be more fun for the people who otherwise be kicked out in the earlier rounds as well. If we have a knockout system, I think 2 or 3 people should be eliminated each round, though I generally like the idea of Magic.X a lot more.

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