Old 3rd December 2002, 19:30   #1
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Military recruiters access to school files

Does this seem wrong to anyone else?

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A little-noticed provision in a new federal education law is requiring high schools to hand over to military recruiters some key information about its juniors and seniors: name, address and phone number.
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Old 3rd December 2002, 19:43   #2
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Old 3rd December 2002, 19:46   #3
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The price of freedom. Kind of like having to sign up for the draft in order to be registered to vote.

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Why?
Good question...it just seems wrong to me. Maybe it's the hatred of all things telemarketer in me. I know the government can get this data all sorts of ways, but there is something about requiring a school to give it out...like school is just one big ROTC camp.
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Old 4th December 2002, 00:39   #5
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The price of freedom. Kind of like having to sign up for the draft in order to be registered to vote.
You mean it's like being required to sign up for the draft to not be a criminal. American males are required to sign up for the draft. No provisions. You just have to sign up. They'll hold out benefits (voting right, students loans, etc) but that's not the only reason to sign up. It is quite illegal not to do so.

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Good question...it just seems wrong to me. Maybe it's the hatred of all things telemarketer in me. I know the government can get this data all sorts of ways, but there is something about requiring a school to give it out...like school is just one big ROTC camp.
To the military, all of the US is just one big recruitment camp. To a corporation, all of the US is just a potential customer base. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't really like associating schools with the military like that, but it's not surprising, and it doesn't really matter. The military could always just go down tothe courthouse and get everyone's records.

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Old 4th December 2002, 00:41   #6
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Maybe it's the hatred of all things telemarketer in me.
...but telemarketers perform a socially beneficial service... by interrupting you during dinner, they are helping to curb the rampant obesity found in North America.

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...but telemarketers perform a socially beneficial service... by interrupting you during dinner, they are helping to curb the rampant obesity found in North America.
So by that logic, the telemarketers would be even more beneficial in Scotland.

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Old 4th December 2002, 01:03   #8
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if teh military calls me, ill fucking cuss em out. i dont like the military, if they call a draft, i go to europe. if they come to my house, ill use the surplus ammo i bought from them
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i just joined the marine corps and when i am in the recruitment office i see the lists they have of names and numbers. i actually got a few #'s of my old friends off of them! its no big deal. how hard is it to say no when they call you or send you a letter?


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how hard is it to say no when they call you or send you a letter?
I've never had any real problem saying no to them, but a lot of people apparently do. I've heard many a complaint about not being able to get them to leave someone alone.

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I've heard many a complaint about not being able to get them to leave someone alone.
That sounds like they know specifically who they want to recruit. Maybe they know more about us than they will admit, maybe they have a list with titles like weight, stamina and aggression. Hmmmmm

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Actually, I think most of the people who have problems getting off the phone are having those problems because they don't know how to handle the recruiting people. I just pick a specific argument and stick to it. Normally the argument is that I don't want to be held into a position for that long. I keep coming back to that, over and over. They won't normally argue with me for more than about five minutes.

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For some reason, not everyone gets one of those cards. You can just go to the post office and fill out the form.

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