website design

e-raser · 8th December 2002, 18:16

i've given up on making flash work and have started to convert the flach into a frame based site. if anyone has any tips, either dealing with its construction or on the visual side of thing please comment

dekt · 8th December 2002, 20:18

That image looks quite impressive.

Very nice as a piece of art but I can't see how navigation would fit into it? I suppose it's early yet but from experience I know it's better to make a design which fits your information/navigation structure rather than trying to make a statement with the layout and making the content fit around it.

Only comment I would really make about the construction is watch how you label each page - give everything descriptive names. I got really confused with which page was which when I made my first site (using frames) though that was a few years ago now.

I imagine you can export from Flash into Fireworks quite easily (you can definitely export a frame of the Flash movie as a gif as long as you've got Flash 5.0a, 'a' is the update, or above). Dunno if that helps but thought I'd let you know.

_Blackdog_ · 8th December 2002, 20:30

i also am wondering where the navigation will be...

and dont use frames. they suck, and there's no reason to use them. plus they do weird things, like if you look at 883's site, you can move the header around by clicking and dragging (no offence 883

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skinme! · 8th December 2002, 21:55

Frames can be useful, but usually more so for web applications like phpmyadmin. For websites, they are rarely necessary, especially with the possibilities for PHP includes, etc.

Looks nice, but I don't know if it will suit a web site layout.

e-raser · 9th December 2002, 05:58

it works very well functionaly, its just too early to see in that version.
i'll heva a more compleat layout in a day or two

e-raser · 10th December 2002, 02:22

heres more, and u'll see now how the interface works.
does anyone know how to have the lcd area show info as the mouse moves over the sphears?

_Blackdog_ · 10th December 2002, 03:50

yeah its just some simple javascript. check out the code on my old site: http://blackdog.tk/
if you can't figure it out, just pm me.

Krynis · 10th December 2002, 04:01

I hate frames but Iframes are godly

dude883 · 10th December 2002, 04:06

now why would you do that?

Quote:

Originally posted by _Blackdog_
i also am wondering where the navigation will be...

and dont use frames. they suck, and there's no reason to use them. plus they do weird things, like if you look at 883's site, you can move the header around by clicking and dragging (no offence 883 )

J_Bloggs · 10th December 2002, 10:37

Frames have there uses. Most free servers don't support php, ssi, cgi, e.t.c, e.t.c.

There nothing wrong with frames, it's the problem lies with webmasters who cannot implement them properly, and users who move them for no good reason.

e-raser · 10th December 2002, 21:25

HERE IS MORE

bobo · 11th December 2002, 12:29

i think u should put a "bowl" or something like on the spikes where they attach to the spheres.
also id use some textures on the metal instead of noise, dont really like that part of it

just some constructive criticism, this still looks very nice. nice job

marc falk · 11th December 2002, 13:27

shiny!

the eagles kick arse... not too sure about the red stuff though...

fsnl
sparky

8th December 2002, 18:16	#1
e-raser Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 1,048	website design i've given up on making flash work and have started to convert the flach into a frame based site. if anyone has any tips, either dealing with its construction or on the visual side of thing please comment My skins: My links: MY GOD IM MAKING A WINAMP 3 SKIN!!!!

8th December 2002, 20:18	#2
dekt Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hamilton, Scotland Posts: 281	That image looks quite impressive. Very nice as a piece of art but I can't see how navigation would fit into it? I suppose it's early yet but from experience I know it's better to make a design which fits your information/navigation structure rather than trying to make a statement with the layout and making the content fit around it. Only comment I would really make about the construction is watch how you label each page - give everything descriptive names. I got really confused with which page was which when I made my first site (using frames) though that was a few years ago now. I imagine you can export from Flash into Fireworks quite easily (you can definitely export a frame of the Flash movie as a gif as long as you've got Flash 5.0a, 'a' is the update, or above). Dunno if that helps but thought I'd let you know. Support your local team

8th December 2002, 21:55	#4
skinme! Forum King Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Website: skinme.net Posts: 3,352	Frames can be useful, but usually more so for web applications like phpmyadmin. For websites, they are rarely necessary, especially with the possibilities for PHP includes, etc. Looks nice, but I don't know if it will suit a web site layout. He had decided to live forever, or die in the attempt In America - a must see film

9th December 2002, 05:58	#5
e-raser Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 1,048	it works very well functionaly, its just too early to see in that version. i'll heva a more compleat layout in a day or two My skins: My links: MY GOD IM MAKING A WINAMP 3 SKIN!!!!

10th December 2002, 02:22	#6
e-raser Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 1,048	heres more, and u'll see now how the interface works. does anyone know how to have the lcd area show info as the mouse moves over the sphears? My skins: My links: MY GOD IM MAKING A WINAMP 3 SKIN!!!!

8th December 2002, 20:30	#3
_Blackdog_ Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: detroit Posts: 1,418	i also am wondering where the navigation will be... and dont use frames. they suck, and there's no reason to use them. plus they do weird things, like if you look at 883's site, you can move the header around by clicking and dragging (no offence 883 )

10th December 2002, 03:50	#7
_Blackdog_ Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: detroit Posts: 1,418	yeah its just some simple javascript. check out the code on my old site: http://blackdog.tk/ if you can't figure it out, just pm me.

10th December 2002, 04:01	#8
Krynis Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada B.C. Posts: 666 Posts: 771	I hate frames but Iframes are godly

10th December 2002, 10:37	#10
J_Bloggs Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,778	Frames have there uses. Most free servers don't support php, ssi, cgi, e.t.c, e.t.c. There nothing wrong with frames, it's the problem lies with webmasters who cannot implement them properly, and users who move them for no good reason.

10th December 2002, 21:25	#11
e-raser Major Dude Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 1,048	HERE IS MORE My skins: My links: MY GOD IM MAKING A WINAMP 3 SKIN!!!!

11th December 2002, 12:29	#12
bobo Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 515	i think u should put a "bowl" or something like on the spikes where they attach to the spheres. also id use some textures on the metal instead of noise, dont really like that part of it just some constructive criticism, this still looks very nice. nice job Xtrmtr Lght \| Lightspeed

11th December 2002, 13:27	#13
marc falk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: sunny north london Posts: 338	shiny! the eagles kick arse... not too sure about the red stuff though... fsnl sparky

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