Old 31st August 2010, 11:37   #1
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I seem to have run up against an upper limit for library size. I started with clean install with version 5.581. Winamp crashes if I try to add just any extra mp3 file. It doesn't matter what other software is running or indeed no other software. I have tried stopping all unnecessary processes. I have approx 280k files in the library at the moment. Am I expecting too much?

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Old 1st September 2010, 00:20   #2
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add by playing or as part of the watch folders? what is the exact working number of files in the ML?

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Old 1st September 2010, 08:13   #3
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Library Size

Thanks for your interest.

I usually add media to the library by dragging in folders. I have tried all sorts of methods though, including xml import of file created by iTunes. All will crash winamp.

Library size currently is 280321.

The libary size was 322188 when it would no longer add media. I decided to clear everything out and start again with a clean install. This time I got as far as 280321 mp3's.


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i would try clearing the ML, and then adding watched folders.

i would also turn off all the "guessing" metadata crap.

it does 43k for me, np. i doubt there is a "hard limit" but rather this is a case where such large transactions fail.

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Old 2nd September 2010, 09:42   #5
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Once again thanks for your interest and responding.

I am reluctant to start over with the ML because it takes so long and I don't believe it will make any difference. I have noticed that if I remove 500 tracks, say, from the library then it still will not add anything without crashing! So something happens to the library when it is large.

Also it will crash after playing between 5 & 10 tracks.

Metadata guessing is turned off by the way.

I must admit that I have never used watched folders because I tend to create the folders and then leave them alone. This means they only need to be scanned once. There is no need to "watch" them. I read somewhere in earlier posts that having some folders in the "Watched Folder" list can itself make the sytem unstable. Maybe that was a problem that has now been corrected though.
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Old 2nd September 2010, 10:06   #6
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usually the main cause for a crash when adding additional files comes from Winamp not reading the tag correctly though normally if an offending file can be found then the issue has normally been fixed in the offending input plug-in for that file format.

there are different ways to work out the offending file(s) - the watch folders thing seems to be one of the common methods to try to work it out. unfortunately however it's done it's a pain to work through to find the issue.

seeing a copy of your plug-ins list -> http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....161361#plugins could be helpful if only to rule out something external messing with things.

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Once again thanks for your interest and responding.

I am reluctant to start over with the ML because it takes so long and I don't believe it will make any difference. I have noticed that if I remove 500 tracks, say, from the library then it still will not add anything without crashing! So something happens to the library when it is large.

Also it will crash after playing between 5 & 10 tracks.

Metadata guessing is turned off by the way.

I must admit that I have never used watched folders because I tend to create the folders and then leave them alone. This means they only need to be scanned once. There is no need to "watch" them. I read somewhere in earlier posts that having some folders in the "Watched Folder" list can itself make the sytem unstable. Maybe that was a problem that has now been corrected though.
watch folders can be set to scan/rescan only when you manually do it. i'm not saying it will fix your issue, you may indeed have reached a ML size limit, but it can't hurt. i think it is probably a better way to add files then how you're doing it, when you have such a large ML. (make sure "remove missing entries" is checked)

i agree with DrO, who is much more knowledgeable than I. you could use www.mp3tag.de to make sure you don't have extra or broken tags. if you have id3v2 tags, delete any id3v1 tags for instance.

also, as a workaround, you could install to different locations separate instances of winamp, and have each one monitor different areas of your library, (pop and classical for example) if that roughly halves it.

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Old 3rd September 2010, 14:00   #8
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Ok so here goes with the plug-in list.

Most of my mp3 files have v2 tags only. I have removed v1 tags from them.

I had thought of separating the library the way you suggested and it might indeed come to that.

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Old 3rd September 2010, 14:56   #9
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plug-in list looks fine so i'd have to swing to it being an issue with one of the file tags especially if it's id3v2 that you're mainly using.

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Old 4th September 2010, 07:39   #10
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Of course I can't completely dismiss the possibility of a faulty ID3 tag. There is still the problem of crashing when I try to add any one single file, (I have the choice of thousands that are not in the library yet), it crashes on every one that I have tried. As I said it also crashes if I try to add a very small XML file created by iTunes.
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this thread reminded me of these old issues, maybe the people having the crashes could try 5.7 and see if they can generate a crash report?

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?p=2945306

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