Old 28th February 2003, 09:40   #1
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Hotlist 2.1 - Testers needed

Endless! I did it!!!

Nearly one Year after i released Hotlist one i've finished v2.1
For all those who don't remeber, its a VJ'ing Tool for AVS.

I'm going to upload my it in a few hours (no FTP at the moment) and i need you all for testing and (maybe) language Pack writing.

Who is gonna give me a Hand?


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Old 28th February 2003, 09:54   #2
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i'll lend a hand, i've spare time
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Old 28th February 2003, 10:31   #3
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You can count on meh too for da testing and language addons THere are many clubs here in Bucharest but i havent seen any projecting AVS.I hope i`ll change this in the future...
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If it doesn't have lots of technical bs i could translate it in finnish (or atleast try) And there is always the dictionary...

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Old 28th February 2003, 15:18   #5
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Its up by now!!!

So here you go:

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Old 28th February 2003, 21:35   #6
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Its nice.I like it. Can i do romanian for it ? If you want...

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kind of confusing at first, i get an error message when adding presets, but it is not in English even though my language is set to english

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yeah i got that 2 its a mix of german and english
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i could do slovenian but whats the use there's only two milion of us all together. of which about 10 have ever tried AVS (Im avare of one person besides me)... So i can do it for myself, nahh to lazy

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Old 4th March 2003, 04:11   #10
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Cool - can't wait to lookey. What is it? A midi mapper?
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Old 5th March 2003, 22:18   #11
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Dude - haven't had any fun with it. I get an error message which is in German when I load up and when I import and avs to the list. hmmm... perhaps I need to play more? Its also crashed a winamp .dll and hasn't done much else.
Sorry haven't had too much time.
By the way what software do you use for live video triggering? Most of the good shit is either mac OS based, expensive as hell or Japanese...
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Old 7th March 2003, 17:01   #12
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Ok i got that Bug. On first startup, the Language Pack is loaded after the configurations. Thats why LAnguage Problems. The Loading Error is caused by wrong File Settings.

I got both things fixed, but i'm still setting up the Install Shield Wizard to provide a proper Installation System next time.

This should solve most of those problems, because the setup was included within the executable (it creates new folders and files, if they're placed wrong, you cant use Hotlist)

I'm gonna upload it as soon as possible.


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Old 7th March 2003, 18:17   #13
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typoes in english trans:

"does'nt" -> "doesn't"
"does already exists." -> "already exists"
"informations" -> "information" (has no plural in english)
"Foreward" -> "Forward"


You should standardize your capitalisation by the way. 'Typing Sentences Like This With All or some Words Capitalised' is weird to read.

And if you have to include variables in a sentence, it's best to use the following system:
"Preset %preset does not exist." instead of "Preset" and "does not exist".
If you include multiple unknowns in one sentence, some languages will reverse the order and will be unable to use your system.

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Just out of interest - does it midi map? That could be quite helpful.
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@ UnConeD: Yeah, typoes, i knew there would be some. Why don't you write a language pack, it would be better then my crappy english
Just send it as an Email, i'm gonna add it to my code then. (Oh and you could review the doc as well then )

@ legohead: it doesnt do anything midi related. Version one was hotkey based, but i experienced that this was a bad way to control avs. I know it would be nice to control avs via midi, but there's no point in doing this would be very unorganized.


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Old 10th March 2003, 14:01   #16
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Checked it out and I must say I LOVE it . just what I was wishing for (some wishes do come trueyay). I even made the pointles slovenian lanuguage pack. I will send it to you anyway.

There are two things that bother me though. The fist one is you cant save lists (I'll get over this), and the second one which is easy to solve is I HATE THE NO PICTURE graphic. I hate it as much as I love Hotlist. Its just useles, you cant see it among all the preset pictures. I edited the bitmap to my own needs (made a BIG red x on white background and wrote NO PICTURE below - works perfectly), but if you choose to delete all the pictures the file gets replaced .

Please,please,please,please change that picture,or code it so that it wount change it back

I sugest a bigg red X on white background without the text because that gets messed up with resizeing.

Anyway, love what you did, THANK YOU for shareing it.


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Old 12th March 2003, 16:31   #17
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Debugged Version out now!!! :D

Yo Guys, i debugged some things and added an Installer.

Get it on the Hotlist-Page

By chance, it happend that i deactivated the Picture Changeback.

More Things to come Up in V2.2:

-onbeat preset changing
-saveable hotlists
-improved picture loading
-language packs with placeholders

I'm on it, keep on writing Language Packs


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Old 12th March 2003, 17:18   #18
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If you send me the latest english language pack before releasing it (email steven at acko.net) I'll correct it and do a Dutch translation if you want.

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Re: Debugged Version out now!!! :D

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i debugged some things and added an Installer
but why MSI and not NSIS ?
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Old 12th March 2003, 18:15   #20
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because InstallShield:

-does Registry Settings
-does all the Stuff with subdirs and so on
-supports a deinstaller
-creates the shortcuts
-is damn easy to handle and updates itself for every version


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Old 12th March 2003, 18:44   #21
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nsis does that aswell.. and it's completely free!

btw: would be nice to have some screenshots on you websites. i like seeing a software before i install it.
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NSIS does all the things you mentioned and is a LOT smaller

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And NSIS doesn't unroll itself 50 f**kin times before installation.

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Endura, happy birthday
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I still haven't tested this, but i guess there is no rush with the finnish translation since there hardly is finnish VJ's that use avs O_o

Ooh and gotta download the new version while im at it.

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Old 20th March 2003, 11:54   #26
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I havnt received one single language pack yet.

You're really lazy guys

But that doesnt matter as V2.2 will need updated packs anyway, so just wait 1-2 weeks until finalisation.

Has anyone else some ideas for V2.2??


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Yes we are a bit lazy Or atleast i am.
Also i thought this isn't a rush job so it's not on the top of my things to do list.

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hehe.

At least i hope ther will be more enthusiasm when v2.2 is out.

I just tested the onbeat preset switching - w00t!


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Old 24th March 2003, 07:45   #29
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Aw, c'mon guys, i asked for improvement ideas some days ago and nothing happend.

Ai'nt anyone interested in this program???


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Old 24th March 2003, 10:21   #30
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OK, I have an idea.
it would be cool to have 'save to hotkey 1,2,3,...' options,
when you right click on a preset and that list drops down.
The first 10 keys would be enough.

I would love this function

Could you explain what the hell is the difference between edit and non edit mode:?

The new version doesn't remember which language I use



p.s. others arent VJing, thats why they dont give a rats ass about the software. I used it this weekend.

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Editing mode will show / hide the file selection ont the left side.
I dont know why the Language is not remembered,it should be stored in the registry at local_machine/software/hotlist, please check that.

But this will change in V2.2 too as Language Packs will use placeholders then (as UnConed suggested).

New Features that already work:
-Onbeat Presetchanging through an APE
-Loading & Saving of Multiple Lists, even allows adding existing lists
-Extended, hideable Status Bar
-Extended Main Menu
-Deleting all currently not used Pictures (very usefull)
-New Language Pack Style
-Edit Area now sizeable
-Automation now on a seperate hideable ToolBar

Planned but not done:
-Loading all pictures on Startup and only once.
-NSIS Installer
-Allow multiple instances of one Preset
-Allow custom sort of Presets (Drag & Drop)

Hmm, Hotkeys again?!

I used Hotkeys for Version 1, but this way was (as i experienced) a bit too complicated, so i introduced clicking

Well in addition it could be usefull again.

But:
When the ListView is selected and you hit a key, Hotlist will jump to the first entry beginning with the typed letter. Therefore, Hotkeys would only be good with the F Keys, otherwise there would be conflict.

To explain how Hotlist works:
-it saves the location of the presets
-onload, it copies the prest to AVS/F1.aph andsimulates F1 beeing pressed

Possible Solution:

Hotlists FKey is changed to F12
On demand, single prests are copied to F1 - F11 sperately
If you enable the Hotkey passthrough, you can access them now directly

Or do you want this to be handled by Hotlist iself (Remeber the Preset, handle it as loading, resetting the counter and so on)?


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.s. others arent VJing, thats why they dont give a rats ass about the software . I used it this weekend .
Tis true that i don't VJ, but i do want to make a finnish language pack. Though i haven't had the time to test it even once But as i said, it's not on top of my priority list.

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As i said, it's not on top of my priority list.
Tuggummis Priority List:

-Searching Porn
-Downloading Porn
-Sorting Porn (Animals, Grannies, etc.)
-Watching Porn
-... Porn ...
-(somwhere on Bottom) doing Language Pack.



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Not quite
You do remember that i don't have internet access @ home.

My Priority List:

- Download Porn (i have already searched the best sites )
- Sorting Porn (lesbians & plain old f*ck*ng to the different folders)
- Burning Porn into CD
- Watching Porn (the best part)
- *censored*
- Clean up
- Do some AVS presets
- Watch my own presets and feel good about myself
- Do avatars for nice people
- Eat
- Sleep
- Watch "Six Feet Under"
- Play some roms
- ...
- ...
- ...
- And somewhere on the bottom, check out Hotlist


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Ok, lets get back to the Topic.
If you want to continue discussing this we should open a "Tuggummi loves Porn" treat.

btw: T', need more Smileys?


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Did i say i wanted to continue it? As i see it you started it. Now thanks to you people tell me "Get a life" , "Don't watch that show" , "You're sick" . Even my sense of humour has a line and you just crossed it.

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I'm Sorry, i really am. It was'nt meant to be anything against you. Furthermore i did'nt thought that anyone would take this seriously. Please accept my apologie.


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Ok, i didn't thought you ment anything by it, but rest of the forum members might not be so "understanding"

Anyway it's all cool now, it's locked and it will be forgotten in a couple of days/week.

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