Hotlist 2.1 - Testers needed

Magic.X · 28th February 2003, 09:40

Endless! I did it!!!

Nearly one Year after i released Hotlist one i've finished v2.1
For all those who don't remeber, its a VJ'ing Tool for AVS.

I'm going to upload my it in a few hours (no FTP at the moment) and i need you all for testing and (maybe) language Pack writing.

Who is gonna give me a Hand?

EnDurA · 28th February 2003, 09:54

i'll lend a hand, i've spare time

Phaze1987 · 28th February 2003, 10:31

You can count on meh too for da testing and language addons

THere are many clubs here in Bucharest but i havent seen any projecting AVS.I hope i`ll change this in the future...

Tuggummi · 28th February 2003, 10:52

If it doesn't have lots of technical bs i could translate it in finnish

(or atleast try) And there is always the dictionary...

Magic.X · 28th February 2003, 15:18

So here you go:

Hotlist - Page

Phaze1987 · 28th February 2003, 21:35

Its nice.I like it. Can i do romanian for it ? If you want...

mikm · 1st March 2003, 02:46

kind of confusing at first, i get an error message when adding presets, but it is not in English even though my language is set to english

EnDurA · 1st March 2003, 02:50

yeah i got that 2 its a mix of german and english

fsk · 3rd March 2003, 12:54

i could do slovenian but whats the use there's only two milion of us all together. of which about 10 have ever tried AVS (Im avare of one person besides me)... So i can do it for myself

, nahh to lazy

legohead · 4th March 2003, 04:11

Cool - can't wait to lookey. What is it? A midi mapper?

legohead · 5th March 2003, 22:18

Dude - haven't had any fun with it. I get an error message which is in German when I load up and when I import and avs to the list. hmmm... perhaps I need to play more? Its also crashed a winamp .dll and hasn't done much else.
Sorry haven't had too much time.
By the way what software do you use for live video triggering? Most of the good shit is either mac OS based, expensive as hell or Japanese...

Magic.X · 7th March 2003, 17:01

Ok i got that Bug. On first startup, the Language Pack is loaded after the configurations. Thats why LAnguage Problems. The Loading Error is caused by wrong File Settings.

I got both things fixed, but i'm still setting up the Install Shield Wizard to provide a proper Installation System next time.

This should solve most of those problems, because the setup was included within the executable (it creates new folders and files, if they're placed wrong, you cant use Hotlist)

I'm gonna upload it as soon as possible.

UnConeD · 7th March 2003, 18:17

typoes in english trans:

"does'nt" -> "doesn't"
"does already exists." -> "already exists"
"informations" -> "information" (has no plural in english)
"Foreward" -> "Forward"

You should standardize your capitalisation by the way. 'Typing Sentences Like This With All or some Words Capitalised' is weird to read.

And if you have to include variables in a sentence, it's best to use the following system:
"Preset %preset does not exist." instead of "Preset" and "does not exist".
If you include multiple unknowns in one sentence, some languages will reverse the order and will be unable to use your system.

legohead · 9th March 2003, 22:02

Just out of interest - does it midi map? That could be quite helpful.

Magic.X · 10th March 2003, 11:16

@ UnConeD: Yeah, typoes, i knew there would be some. Why don't you write a language pack, it would be better then my crappy english

Just send it as an Email, i'm gonna add it to my code then. (Oh and you could review the doc as well then

)

@ legohead: it doesnt do anything midi related. Version one was hotkey based, but i experienced that this was a bad way to control avs. I know it would be nice to control avs via midi, but there's no point in doing this would be very unorganized.

fsk · 10th March 2003, 14:01

Checked it out and I must say I LOVE it

. just what I was wishing for (some wishes do come true

yay). I even made the pointles slovenian lanuguage pack

. I will send it to you anyway.

There are two things that bother me though. The fist one is you cant save lists (I'll get over this

), and the second one which is easy to solve is I HATE THE NO PICTURE graphic. I hate it as much as I love Hotlist. Its just useles, you cant see it among all the preset pictures

. I edited the bitmap to my own needs (made a BIG red x on white background and wrote NO PICTURE below - works perfectly), but if you choose to delete all the pictures the file gets replaced

.

Please,please,please,please change that picture,or code it so that it wount change it back

I sugest a bigg red X on white background without the text because that gets messed up with resizeing.

Anyway, love what you did, THANK YOU for shareing it.

woot-finnaly lost the junior thing

Magic.X · 12th March 2003, 16:31

Yo Guys, i debugged some things and added an Installer.

Get it on the Hotlist-Page

By chance, it happend that i deactivated the Picture Changeback.

More Things to come Up in V2.2:

-onbeat preset changing

-saveable hotlists
-improved picture loading
-language packs with placeholders

I'm on it, keep on writing Language Packs

UnConeD · 12th March 2003, 17:18

If you send me the latest english language pack before releasing it (email steven at acko.net) I'll correct it and do a Dutch translation if you want.

Yathosho · 12th March 2003, 17:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Magic.X
i debugged some things and added an Installer

but why MSI and not NSIS ?

Magic.X · 12th March 2003, 18:15

because InstallShield:

-does Registry Settings
-does all the Stuff with subdirs and so on
-supports a deinstaller
-creates the shortcuts
-is damn easy to handle and updates itself for every version

Yathosho · 12th March 2003, 18:44

nsis does that aswell.. and it's completely free!

btw: would be nice to have some screenshots on you websites. i like seeing a software before i install it.

UnConeD · 12th March 2003, 20:46

NSIS does all the things you mentioned and is a LOT smaller

EnDurA · 14th March 2003, 10:13

ya its by birthday today!!

Zevensoft · 14th March 2003, 12:16

And NSIS doesn't unroll itself 50 f**kin times before installation.

Tuggummi · 14th March 2003, 12:35

[OFFTOPIC]
Endura, happy birthday

[/OFFTOPIC]

I still haven't tested this, but i guess there is no rush with the finnish translation since there hardly is finnish VJ's that use avs O_o

Ooh and gotta download the new version while im at it.

Magic.X · 20th March 2003, 11:54

I havnt received one single language pack yet.

You're really lazy guys

But that doesnt matter as V2.2 will need updated packs anyway, so just wait 1-2 weeks until finalisation.

Has anyone else some ideas for V2.2??

Tuggummi · 20th March 2003, 12:35

Yes we are a bit lazy

Or atleast i am.
Also i thought this isn't a rush job so it's not on the top of my things to do list.

Magic.X · 21st March 2003, 12:09

hehe.

At least i hope ther will be more enthusiasm when v2.2 is out.

I just tested the onbeat preset switching - w00t!

Magic.X · 24th March 2003, 07:45

Aw, c'mon guys, i asked for improvement ideas some days ago and nothing happend.

Ai'nt anyone interested in this program???

fsk · 24th March 2003, 10:21

OK, I have an idea

.
it would be cool to have 'save to hotkey 1,2,3,...' options,
when you right click on a preset and that list drops down.
The first 10 keys would be enough.

I would love this function

Could you explain what the hell is the difference between edit and non edit mode:?

The new version doesn't remember which language I use

p.s. others arent VJing, thats why they dont give a rats ass about the software

. I used it this weekend

.

Magic.X · 24th March 2003, 12:25

Editing mode will show / hide the file selection ont the left side.
I dont know why the Language is not remembered,it should be stored in the registry at local_machine/software/hotlist, please check that.

But this will change in V2.2 too as Language Packs will use placeholders then (as UnConed suggested).

New Features that already work:
-Onbeat Presetchanging through an APE
-Loading & Saving of Multiple Lists, even allows adding existing lists

-Extended, hideable Status Bar
-Extended Main Menu
-Deleting all currently not used Pictures (very usefull)
-New Language Pack Style
-Edit Area now sizeable
-Automation now on a seperate hideable ToolBar

Planned but not done:
-Loading all pictures on Startup and only once.
-NSIS Installer

-Allow multiple instances of one Preset
-Allow custom sort of Presets (Drag & Drop)

Hmm, Hotkeys again?!

I used Hotkeys for Version 1, but this way was (as i experienced) a bit too complicated, so i introduced clicking

Well in addition it could be usefull again.

But:
When the ListView is selected and you hit a key, Hotlist will jump to the first entry beginning with the typed letter. Therefore, Hotkeys would only be good with the F Keys, otherwise there would be conflict.

To explain how Hotlist works:
-it saves the location of the presets
-onload, it copies the prest to AVS/F1.aph andsimulates F1 beeing pressed

Possible Solution:

Hotlists FKey is changed to F12
On demand, single prests are copied to F1 - F11 sperately
If you enable the Hotkey passthrough, you can access them now directly

Or do you want this to be handled by Hotlist iself (Remeber the Preset, handle it as loading, resetting the counter and so on)?

Tuggummi · 24th March 2003, 12:38

Quote:

.s. others arent VJing, thats why they dont give a rats ass about the software

. I used it this weekend

.

Tis true that i don't VJ, but i do want to make a finnish language pack. Though i haven't had the time to test it even once

But as i said, it's not on top of my priority list.

Magic.X · 24th March 2003, 13:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuggummi
As i said, it's not on top of my priority list.

Tuggummis Priority List:

-Searching Porn
-Downloading Porn
-Sorting Porn (Animals, Grannies, etc.)
-Watching Porn
-... Porn ...
-(somwhere on Bottom) doing Language Pack.

Tuggummi · 24th March 2003, 13:11

Not quite

You do remember that i don't have internet access @ home.

My Priority List:

- Download Porn (i have already searched the best sites

)
- Sorting Porn (lesbians & plain old f*ck*ng to the different folders)
- Burning Porn into CD
- Watching Porn (the best part)
- *censored*
- Clean up
- Do some AVS presets
- Watch my own presets and feel good about myself
- Do avatars for nice people
- Eat
- Sleep
- Watch "Six Feet Under"
- Play some roms
- ...
- ...
- ...
- And somewhere on the bottom, check out Hotlist

Magic.X · 24th March 2003, 13:14

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuggummi
- *censored*

!

Tuggummi · 24th March 2003, 13:26

Quote:

!

Magic.X · 24th March 2003, 13:35

Ok, lets get back to the Topic.

If you want to continue discussing this we should open a "Tuggummi loves Porn" treat.

btw: T', need more Smileys?

Tuggummi · 25th March 2003, 06:11

Did i say i wanted to continue it? As i see it you started it. Now thanks to you people tell me "Get a life" , "Don't watch that show" , "You're sick" . Even my sense of humour has a line and you just crossed it.

Magic.X · 25th March 2003, 07:38

I'm Sorry, i really am. It was'nt meant to be anything against you. Furthermore i did'nt thought that anyone would take this seriously. Please accept my apologie.

Tuggummi · 25th March 2003, 07:42

Ok, i didn't thought you ment anything by it, but rest of the forum members might not be so "understanding"

Anyway it's all cool now, it's locked and it will be forgotten in a couple of days/week.

28th February 2003, 09:40	#1
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Hotlist 2.1 - Testers needed Endless! I did it!!! Nearly one Year after i released Hotlist one i've finished v2.1 For all those who don't remeber, its a VJ'ing Tool for AVS. I'm going to upload my it in a few hours (no FTP at the moment) and i need you all for testing and (maybe) language Pack writing. Who is gonna give me a Hand? -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

28th February 2003, 10:31	#3
Phaze1987 Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lula The Sexy Empire Posts: 916	You can count on meh too for da testing and language addons THere are many clubs here in Bucharest but i havent seen any projecting AVS.I hope i`ll change this in the future... \| -Mail me- \| -Visit my DA page- \| -Talk to me on IRC-(nick Phaze1NE)- \|

28th February 2003, 10:52	#4
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,190	If it doesn't have lots of technical bs i could translate it in finnish (or atleast try) And there is always the dictionary... Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

28th February 2003, 15:18	#5
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Its up by now!!! So here you go: Hotlist - Page -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

28th February 2003, 21:35	#6
Phaze1987 Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lula The Sexy Empire Posts: 916	Its nice.I like it. Can i do romanian for it ? If you want... \| -Mail me- \| -Visit my DA page- \| -Talk to me on IRC-(nick Phaze1NE)- \|

28th February 2003, 09:54	#2
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	i'll lend a hand, i've spare time

1st March 2003, 02:46	#7
mikm Major Dude Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere else Posts: 1,289	kind of confusing at first, i get an error message when adding presets, but it is not in English even though my language is set to english powered by C₈H₁₀N₄O₂

1st March 2003, 02:50	#8
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	yeah i got that 2 its a mix of german and english

3rd March 2003, 12:54	#9
fsk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: right around the corner Posts: 223	i could do slovenian but whats the use there's only two milion of us all together. of which about 10 have ever tried AVS (Im avare of one person besides me)... So i can do it for myself, nahh to lazy I hate signatures!! bangs his head on the keyboard in hope of getting an idea Ufihreevf43n98pevfr

4th March 2003, 04:11	#10
legohead Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 181	Cool - can't wait to lookey. What is it? A midi mapper?

5th March 2003, 22:18	#11
legohead Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 181	Dude - haven't had any fun with it. I get an error message which is in German when I load up and when I import and avs to the list. hmmm... perhaps I need to play more? Its also crashed a winamp .dll and hasn't done much else. Sorry haven't had too much time. By the way what software do you use for live video triggering? Most of the good shit is either mac OS based, expensive as hell or Japanese...

7th March 2003, 17:01	#12
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Ok i got that Bug. On first startup, the Language Pack is loaded after the configurations. Thats why LAnguage Problems. The Loading Error is caused by wrong File Settings. I got both things fixed, but i'm still setting up the Install Shield Wizard to provide a proper Installation System next time. This should solve most of those problems, because the setup was included within the executable (it creates new folders and files, if they're placed wrong, you cant use Hotlist) I'm gonna upload it as soon as possible. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

7th March 2003, 18:17	#13
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	typoes in english trans: "does'nt" -> "doesn't" "does already exists." -> "already exists" "informations" -> "information" (has no plural in english) "Foreward" -> "Forward" You should standardize your capitalisation by the way. 'Typing Sentences Like This With All or some Words Capitalised' is weird to read. And if you have to include variables in a sentence, it's best to use the following system: "Preset %preset does not exist." instead of "Preset" and "does not exist". If you include multiple unknowns in one sentence, some languages will reverse the order and will be unable to use your system.

9th March 2003, 22:02	#14
legohead Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 181	Just out of interest - does it midi map? That could be quite helpful.

10th March 2003, 11:16	#15
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	@ UnConeD: Yeah, typoes, i knew there would be some. Why don't you write a language pack, it would be better then my crappy english Just send it as an Email, i'm gonna add it to my code then. (Oh and you could review the doc as well then ) @ legohead: it doesnt do anything midi related. Version one was hotkey based, but i experienced that this was a bad way to control avs. I know it would be nice to control avs via midi, but there's no point in doing this would be very unorganized. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

10th March 2003, 14:01	#16
fsk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: right around the corner Posts: 223	Checked it out and I must say I LOVE it . just what I was wishing for (some wishes do come trueyay). I even made the pointles slovenian lanuguage pack. I will send it to you anyway. There are two things that bother me though. The fist one is you cant save lists (I'll get over this), and the second one which is easy to solve is I HATE THE NO PICTURE graphic. I hate it as much as I love Hotlist. Its just useles, you cant see it among all the preset pictures. I edited the bitmap to my own needs (made a BIG red x on white background and wrote NO PICTURE below - works perfectly), but if you choose to delete all the pictures the file gets replaced . Please,please,please,please change that picture,or code it so that it wount change it back I sugest a bigg red X on white background without the text because that gets messed up with resizeing. Anyway, love what you did, THANK YOU for shareing it. woot-finnaly lost the junior thing I hate signatures!! bangs his head on the keyboard in hope of getting an idea Ufihreevf43n98pevfr Last edited by fsk; 10th March 2003 at 14:26.

12th March 2003, 16:31	#17
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Debugged Version out now!!! :D Yo Guys, i debugged some things and added an Installer. Get it on the Hotlist-Page By chance, it happend that i deactivated the Picture Changeback. More Things to come Up in V2.2: -onbeat preset changing -saveable hotlists -improved picture loading -language packs with placeholders I'm on it, keep on writing Language Packs -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

12th March 2003, 17:18	#18
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	If you send me the latest english language pack before releasing it (email steven at acko.net) I'll correct it and do a Dutch translation if you want.

12th March 2003, 18:15	#20
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	because InstallShield: -does Registry Settings -does all the Stuff with subdirs and so on -supports a deinstaller -creates the shortcuts -is damn easy to handle and updates itself for every version -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

12th March 2003, 18:44	#21
Yathosho Forum King Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: AT-DE Posts: 3,369	nsis does that aswell.. and it's completely free! btw: would be nice to have some screenshots on you websites. i like seeing a software before i install it. NSIS IDE for Atom \| NSIS for Visual Studio Code \| NSIS for Sublime Text \| NSIS.docset

12th March 2003, 20:46	#22
UnConeD Whacked Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,104	NSIS does all the things you mentioned and is a LOT smaller

14th March 2003, 10:13	#23
EnDurA Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: East Coast of Aus Posts: 1,467	ya its by birthday today!!

14th March 2003, 12:16	#24
Zevensoft Major Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ballarat, Australia Posts: 529	And NSIS doesn't unroll itself 50 f**kin times before installation. 1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 \| 3W \| 4W W

14th March 2003, 12:35	#25
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,190	[OFFTOPIC] Endura, happy birthday [/OFFTOPIC] I still haven't tested this, but i guess there is no rush with the finnish translation since there hardly is finnish VJ's that use avs O_o Ooh and gotta download the new version while im at it. Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

20th March 2003, 11:54	#26
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	I havnt received one single language pack yet. You're really lazy guys But that doesnt matter as V2.2 will need updated packs anyway, so just wait 1-2 weeks until finalisation. Has anyone else some ideas for V2.2?? -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

20th March 2003, 12:35	#27
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,190	Yes we are a bit lazy Or atleast i am. Also i thought this isn't a rush job so it's not on the top of my things to do list. Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

21st March 2003, 12:09	#28
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	hehe. At least i hope ther will be more enthusiasm when v2.2 is out. I just tested the onbeat preset switching - w00t! -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

24th March 2003, 07:45	#29
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Aw, c'mon guys, i asked for improvement ideas some days ago and nothing happend. Ai'nt anyone interested in this program??? -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

24th March 2003, 10:21	#30
fsk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: right around the corner Posts: 223	OK, I have an idea. it would be cool to have 'save to hotkey 1,2,3,...' options, when you right click on a preset and that list drops down. The first 10 keys would be enough. I would love this function Could you explain what the hell is the difference between edit and non edit mode:? The new version doesn't remember which language I use p.s. others arent VJing, thats why they dont give a rats ass about the software. I used it this weekend. I hate signatures!! bangs his head on the keyboard in hope of getting an idea Ufihreevf43n98pevfr

24th March 2003, 12:25	#31
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Editing mode will show / hide the file selection ont the left side. I dont know why the Language is not remembered,it should be stored in the registry at local_machine/software/hotlist, please check that. But this will change in V2.2 too as Language Packs will use placeholders then (as UnConed suggested). New Features that already work: -Onbeat Presetchanging through an APE -Loading & Saving of Multiple Lists, even allows adding existing lists -Extended, hideable Status Bar -Extended Main Menu -Deleting all currently not used Pictures (very usefull) -New Language Pack Style -Edit Area now sizeable -Automation now on a seperate hideable ToolBar Planned but not done: -Loading all pictures on Startup and only once. -NSIS Installer -Allow multiple instances of one Preset -Allow custom sort of Presets (Drag & Drop) Hmm, Hotkeys again?! I used Hotkeys for Version 1, but this way was (as i experienced) a bit too complicated, so i introduced clicking Well in addition it could be usefull again. But: When the ListView is selected and you hit a key, Hotlist will jump to the first entry beginning with the typed letter. Therefore, Hotkeys would only be good with the F Keys, otherwise there would be conflict. To explain how Hotlist works: -it saves the location of the presets -onload, it copies the prest to AVS/F1.aph andsimulates F1 beeing pressed Possible Solution: Hotlists FKey is changed to F12 On demand, single prests are copied to F1 - F11 sperately If you enable the Hotkey passthrough, you can access them now directly Or do you want this to be handled by Hotlist iself (Remeber the Preset, handle it as loading, resetting the counter and so on)? -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

24th March 2003, 13:11	#34
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,190	Not quite You do remember that i don't have internet access @ home. My Priority List: - Download Porn (i have already searched the best sites ) - Sorting Porn (lesbians & plain old fckng to the different folders) - Burning Porn into CD - Watching Porn (the best part) - censored - Clean up - Do some AVS presets - Watch my own presets and feel good about myself - Do avatars for nice people - Eat - Sleep - Watch "Six Feet Under" - Play some roms - ... - ... - ... - And somewhere on the bottom, check out Hotlist Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

24th March 2003, 13:35	#37
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Ok, lets get back to the Topic. If you want to continue discussing this we should open a "Tuggummi loves Porn" treat. btw: T', need more Smileys? -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

25th March 2003, 06:11	#38
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,190	Did i say i wanted to continue it? As i see it you started it. Now thanks to you people tell me "Get a life" , "Don't watch that show" , "You're sick" . Even my sense of humour has a line and you just crossed it. Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

25th March 2003, 07:38	#39
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	I'm Sorry, i really am. It was'nt meant to be anything against you. Furthermore i did'nt thought that anyone would take this seriously. Please accept my apologie. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

25th March 2003, 07:42	#40
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,190	Ok, i didn't thought you ment anything by it, but rest of the forum members might not be so "understanding" Anyway it's all cool now, it's locked and it will be forgotten in a couple of days/week. Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...