Old 4th May 2007, 14:39   #1
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Spider Man 3...Best Romantic Comedy of The Year?

Well, I saw Spider Man 3 last night/this morning. Waste of my six bucks. The first hour and a half was no more than a romantic comedy. The alien makes him your stereotypical emo kid, he does some silly things that made us all laugh, and that's pretty much it. Speaking of his emo-ness, how do we know when the "bad suit" is in control of him? Well it's simple. His hair turns black, and he makes his bangs go in front of his eyes. I'm not joking. The big "turning point" scene involves him walking past a mirror or store window, I don't remember which, the movie was that uneventful, and he looks at himself, and he deftly moves his bangs from tidy, do sloppily in front of his eyes. What was I guess supposed to be a "dramatic" moment only made the entire audience bust up laughing. What made it all the more hilarious was the seriousness with which "Peter" move his hair. Maybe they were going for the satire, but all they got was ridiculous.

There was 3 minute action sequence at the very start that didn't really do much more than make you not leave out of hopes there would be another. Little did I know I would have to wait 100 minutes later until the "final battle" which looked good, but was under appreciated due to sheer exhaustion of cute little jokes that filled the preceding minutes.

Bottom line, a great movie to take your girlfriend to. And even better, if you show up 5 minutes late, and leave 15 minutes early, there is pretty much no way either of you would know you were watching spiderman (except for the 4 scenes where he wheres the black suit and does the bad things that cause tension for the rest of the movie)
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Old 4th May 2007, 18:02   #2
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Also, I forgot to mention that Maguire ha put on a few pounds, and the existence of a double chin on spider-man was laughable, and the scenes where he was actually wearing the suit (not CGI scenes) were hilarious. The final scene showed his spare tire in all its glory.
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I just want to see Venom.
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Venom, I will admit, looked and sounded cool. It was just a shame this his part lasted a mere 10 of the 140+ minutes.
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My spidey-sense tells me you guys have too many comic books in your closets. No matter how much flashy CGI or computer animation goes into a sequel, it is still just a sequel. Does Dunst have a tire as well? Or does she get paid for more money shots in another well rated pg-13 film?
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Venom, I will admit, looked and sounded cool. It was just a shame this his part lasted a mere 10 of the 140+ minutes.
That was bullshit. I've got to say I was really disappointed with how Venom was handled. He seemed almost marginal to the movie.
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Old 5th May 2007, 03:11   #7
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I held little interest in this movie as it was but knowing that it's again a battle of spiderman versus his inner demons, I'll pass.
I'll wait for the XXX version.
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My spidey-sense tells me you guys have too many comic books in your closets. No matter how much flashy CGI or computer animation goes into a sequel, it is still just a sequel. Does Dunst have a tire as well? Or does she get paid for more money shots in another well rated pg-13 film?
Actually, I don't own a single comic book. The humor comes from the first movie, where he gets all ripped from being spider man, and now is a shell of the figure that he had in that movie. A "chubby" superhero is just funny.
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I'll wait for the XXX version.
The webshots are better in that one, I hear.
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comedy is good
romantic not so much


Who is the milkman? What is the purpose of the goggles?
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My spidey-sense tells me you guys have too many comic books in your closets. No matter how much flashy CGI or computer animation goes into a sequel, it is still just a sequel. Does Dunst have a tire as well? Or does she get paid for more money shots in another well rated pg-13 film?
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Actually, I don't own a single comic book. The humor comes from the first movie, where he gets all ripped from being spider man, and now is a shell of the figure that he had in that movie. A "chubby" superhero is just funny.

Obviously you didn't read the comics. And this made the point that the majority of the non-comic fans rasp-berried about this flick. Spider-man was always about his relationship with MJ and his inner demons involving Spider-man. It was always like that.

Even more so, The symbiote used to change Peters apparel back in the day, and guess what he changed into? A leather jacket and biker boots. Y'know, like the "bad-ass" style of the sixties and seventies. So Sam Raimi made Peter Parker wear his hair in emo-style, so fucking what? How else was he supposed to change Peter visually? Give him a new face? Give him a fucking moustache so he could twist it while plotting to tie MJ to a train track?

The comic was always full of stupid comedy jokes because Parker is an idiot sometimes and MJ is a clueless twit. It's always been like that. Always.

It sucks when people totally unfamiliar with a comic book bitch when the movie based on the comic doesn't go the way they wanted it to go but instead goes the way the comic did.

Get real. This movie was made to make money, but it was based on a fucking comic book, one of the ones my dad didn't even read because it was too soap-opera for his angst-ridden tastes. Too bad you fell in love with Peter Parker on a false pretense. He was always in love with MJ, and he was always a dork. Period.

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Remember when you can see erect Dunst nipple when she kisses upside down Spidey in the rain?

Best ... Spidey ... scene ... EVAR!
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Obviously you didn't read the comics. And this made the point that the majority of the non-comic fans rasp-berried about this flick. Spider-man was always about his relationship with MJ and his inner demons involving Spider-man. It was always like that.

Even more so, The symbiote used to change Peters apparel back in the day, and guess what he changed into? A leather jacket and biker boots. Y'know, like the "bad-ass" style of the sixties and seventies. So Sam Raimi made Peter Parker wear his hair in emo-style, so fucking what? How else was he supposed to change Peter visually? Give him a new face? Give him a fucking moustache so he could twist it while plotting to tie MJ to a train track?

The comic was always full of stupid comedy jokes because Parker is an idiot sometimes and MJ is a clueless twit. It's always been like that. Always.

It sucks when people totally unfamiliar with a comic book bitch when the movie based on the comic doesn't go the way they wanted it to go but instead goes the way the comic did.

Get real. This movie was made to make money, but it was based on a fucking comic book, one of the ones my dad didn't even read because it was too soap-opera for his angst-ridden tastes. Too bad you fell in love with Peter Parker on a false pretense. He was always in love with MJ, and he was always a dork. Period.
All I was saying was fat spidey + no action + (stereotypical emo look != badass) == funny
funny != dark, action packed movie that was expected.
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I expected a fun comic book movie.

It worked for me.


Who is the milkman? What is the purpose of the goggles?
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Obviously you didn't read the comics. And this made the point that the majority of the non-comic fans rasp-berried about this flick. Spider-man was always about his relationship with MJ and his inner demons involving Spider-man. It was always like that.

Even more so, The symbiote used to change Peters apparel back in the day, and guess what he changed into? A leather jacket and biker boots. Y'know, like the "bad-ass" style of the sixties and seventies. So Sam Raimi made Peter Parker wear his hair in emo-style, so fucking what? How else was he supposed to change Peter visually? Give him a new face? Give him a fucking moustache so he could twist it while plotting to tie MJ to a train track?

The comic was always full of stupid comedy jokes because Parker is an idiot sometimes and MJ is a clueless twit. It's always been like that. Always.

It sucks when people totally unfamiliar with a comic book bitch when the movie based on the comic doesn't go the way they wanted it to go but instead goes the way the comic did.

Get real. This movie was made to make money, but it was based on a fucking comic book, one of the ones my dad didn't even read because it was too soap-opera for his angst-ridden tastes. Too bad you fell in love with Peter Parker on a false pretense. He was always in love with MJ, and he was always a dork. Period.
I agree.

The movies are not perfect but its pretty close to the comics.

And I double agree about the corny jokes spidey makes. That is something that stayed with him for as long as I could remember. It just wouldn't be him without them.
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I just think that there were too many bad guys in this one. Seemed a bit "thrown together" to me. I still liked it though.

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I guess we're not doing spoilers here. Hmmm. I'm not giving away 'too much', in any case, for any who are interested in not knowing more than they've already picked up here.

After reading so many lukewarm and totally negative reviews, I was willing to pass on this Spidey flick. But I'm off work for a week, so What the heck. I just kept my expectations low, as I usually do these days, and that worked.

I didn't mind the assorted villains, although the Sandman might have been one too many. But the horde of freaks should have bumped up the 'interesting' factor enormously. It bumped it up minimally. Had there been only one villain in this flick, together with the faulty directing and screwed-up script (more in the details than the broad outline), this installment would have been not just dead on arrival, but gone to dust to boot. (There is no question that a good script and talented direction doesn't require external aids - e.g., many freakish mutants or characters - in order to make a good flick. Look at T2 or Predator 2.)

Partly, I think I didn't get Raimi's style - right away. (And my thought about that is: Just because I didn't get his style, that doesn't make it bad.) But Raimi could have tried harder. Example: Spidey was pretty broken up about his friend Harry Osbourne. So why did he stop to talk to Sandman for 5 minutes while Harry lay mortally wounded? Well, Those over 10 might have thought about it.

Maybe Raimi wasn't allowed to try harder. Afterall, Movies these days are dishes that have too many chefs preparing them and the focus is on profit.

The movie needed to be more cerebral and rational and... well made. All the ingredients were there. Or maybe they were one too many.

*I thought for sure Campbell was going to abscond with the ring. That would have been hilarious. I'm not sure that the intended humor, in that scene, 'was' funny.
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Saw it, hated it.

Bruce Campbell was the only redeeming quality of this movie.
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Alternate Ending: (Spoiler)


After Spiderman defeats Venom, Sandman stops by to explain himself.
Spidey: So you're just robbing banks to save your daughter? My friend Harry is pretty rich, but he's dying. I bet if we take him to the hospital, he'll help pay for her operation.
Sandman: Okay.



I guess that would be too easy.


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I figured Spidey would reach out to him and help his kid but Spidey is a worthless excuse for a human and should be sprayed with a giant can of Raid.
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I liked Spiderman 1, tolerated Spiderman 2, but this movie was a total waste. I wasn't expecting much and even with that it was disappointing. I found myself looking at my watch.
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I did look at my phone to see what time it was a couple of times.

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Go Bruce Campbell. Other than that, I could think of better ways to waste 3 hours.

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I'd rather watch a real spider build a web for a couple hours.
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I saw Spider-Man 3 at last on DVD. I really liked it, just like I really did with the first two.

I've never read the comics, but I do agree with Fickle. The entire trilogy is all about the relationship between Peter Parker and MJ. Remember that the the first film opens with the line "My story is about a girl".

I like the fact that Raimi really explores the relationship between Peter and MJ and how it evolves over time.

The movie is not prefect; it does have flaws. It should have lasted three hours to exploit all the storylines but Raimi certainly couldn't make that. There are a couple of useless scenes (Peter doing silly scenes, the dance scene at the Jazz club) and the biggest caveat is the underuse of Gwen Stacey's character (could've made for an interesting quadrangle). But overall, the movie is excellent; it's way above anything that's been made so far with superhero films.

Wonder what they'll do with Spiderman 4
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Wonder what they'll do with Spiderman 4
Hopefully hand it over to a new director and crew and kick some life into the fanchise.

Don't get me wrong, Rami is a good director who did great things with Spidey.... but..... it fell into the trap of the '3rd superhero sequel' it tried to cram in too much story into 2.5 hours, too many bad guys.

1 was great, 2 was also a good cracking film, but 3 was just bloat in parts, I've no doubt we will at somepoint get a 'extended 3.5' cut of the film, to be honest , it could do with more of a trim than an extended.

The whole sandman subplot just seemed tacked on for the sake of introducing another bad guy to the film.

Look what happend with the 90's batman films.

1) Batman - Superb - Great bad guy
2) Batman Returns - Great - Two bad guys , although you could argue it was actually one...
3) Batman Forever....er..two bad guys, a new love interest, a new sidekick, a couple of minor bad guys.....
4) Batman & Robin - Two bad guys, another new love interest, another sidekick , so now you have 3 heroes.. another minor badguy, an even more minor bad guy... Utter cack.....

It took nearly 10 years and a total reboot of the franchise to make Batman cool again in Batman Begins, the similarities between how the Spidey and Batman films developed are spooky, lets hope if they do make a Spidey4 it dosn't end up the total fuck up the Batman & Robin was.
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In my opinion, you can't really compare the Spiderman and Batman franchises.

The 3 Spiderman movies were made by the same director and the same cast, and were all good (just my opinion).

Batman became trash when they handed it over to Joel Shumacher, who made two unwatchable films. I haven't seen Batman Begins so I can't comment on it.

I agree with the criticism that the writers tried to put too many things into Spiderman 3; unlike you, I'll gladly take any extended version if it ever gets released . But even with too much stuff, it still makes for a very good show in my opinion.

Sam Raimi said that he wanted the franchise to continue, with another director while he would act as the producer. Good idea, but only if they come up with good scripts and keep the same cast, which is far from done.

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You are right, Schumacher killed the original Batman franchise stone dead, the fact they couldn't keep a lead actor from movie to movie should have set the alarm bells ringing...

I will say though, get out and watch Batman Begins, the best Batman film since 'Returns', great stuff.

Maybe my opinion of Spidey3 was harsh, I only watched it on a shonky pirate DVD, but it did feel a little fat around the edges.

What I'd like to see in 4 (if they make one) is less of the romance between parker and MJ, a little is ok, but both of them mooning over each other for the film again felt a little 'fat', more action!.

Robert Rodriguez would make a good director, he certainly knows how to move a comic book to the big screen and he's not short on talent when it comes to action flicks either....
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Interestingly, IMDB already contains an entry for Spider-Man 4, set for release in 2009

Whoever writes it, directs it and produces it, I'd like to see:

- An enemy that is a real nemesis for Spider-man, not someone he can defeat in 5 minutes

- Bring back Gwen Stacey and give her a real storyline

- Stick to one villain (two is just too much for a 2-hour film)

Feel free to add to the list
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I think there was some comments a while back by Sony execs that S4 was a cert, just without naming any solid cast/crew to go with it.

There again, the IMDB is a bit like Wikipedia, information at times can be 'sketchy' and inaccurate as some of it is user submitted.

One villain yes, but if you have to have two of them at least have them working together, venom, sandman and goblin MK2 was just too much to follow at times, they all had their own agenda which added to a confusing plot.

As for a villain, I'd go for Kingpin
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Remember when you can see erect Dunst nipple when she kisses upside down Spidey in the rain?

Best ... Spidey ... scene ... EVAR!
Try watching it in Blu-Ray.
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