Old 5th September 2003, 20:06   #1
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Getting arrested for broadcasting?

I heard on the radio this morning some people were arrested for broadcasting over the internet as well as having MP3's on their computer. They said to avoid this, you'll need to cease broadcasting and erase all your MP3's. Has anyone else heard of this?

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Old 5th September 2003, 20:08   #2
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I haven't, but that'd be one damn stupid thing! I'm trying to reach people with music that everyone can love.. i'm not trying to rob anyone of sales!!

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The context is incomplete.

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Old 5th September 2003, 20:21   #4
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... In Mexico

but I suppose that if someone's having a bad enough day, they'd arrest them.

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Old 5th September 2003, 20:48   #5
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I would like to see an actual link and source for this story, 'the radio' is simply not enough.
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Old 5th September 2003, 21:01   #6
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Additionally isn't the RIAA also lowering CD prices.. Read that in the paper thursday

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Old 5th September 2003, 21:50   #7
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Oh god.. i really hope so. I don't feel like paying 20$ for a CD that I only like a few tracks on.. If I ever buy a CD, it better have the best damn music on it ever.. heh.

I do buy vinyls and 12" singles for my Trance, though..

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Old 5th September 2003, 21:56   #8
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Old 5th September 2003, 22:00   #9
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It really makes you sick to see things like
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I probably wouldn't even get cds if they were free. I like downloading.
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i never bought cd's in the first place. so i doubt i will start buying them now.
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Old 5th September 2003, 22:09   #10
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Yes, the whole "I want it for free" mentality is ill.

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Old 5th September 2003, 22:11   #11
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You must first put yourself in the musician's shoes.. Although the musician might not be making the music for the money, they have to be supported somehow.. Especially since it's their job in life.

Imagine being cheated out of a paycheck from work. They lost a lot more than a paycheck, undoubtedly..

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Old 6th September 2003, 02:54   #12
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actually the musician's barely make little money off a $15 cd! The rest goes to the label maker, the people all involved with the prodject.. Additionally the rest goest to the RIAA I think its like 50% of the CD goest directly to RIAA and why? Because there powerhungry evil dorks!

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Old 6th September 2003, 03:03   #13
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That makes me ponder, DJHotIce.. These pop artists don't do it for the love of music and they get the most amount of money from the millions of albums sold... and the underground bands/groups/producers that do it for the music get jack shit.

What a cruel world.

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Old 6th September 2003, 03:16   #14
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that's because they do what they are told, people who follow the recording industry blindly get fame, not fortune, you watch in 10 years they will do a where are they now story on these artists and you will find that they are going dumpster diving for breakfast.
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Old 6th September 2003, 03:18   #15
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The fact that they spend all their money on the dumbest things contributes to that too. You'll hear of rock artists buying guitars and the such but urban and pop artists buying the "bling" and the $1,000,000 cars.

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pfft I mean its a simple consept (will ilistrate in php form)
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Buy More == Make More
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allright I could have illistrated in non php forms (but I just love PHP so much I had ta)

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Old 6th September 2003, 04:54   #17
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The fact that they spend all their money on the dumbest things contributes to that too. You'll hear of rock artists buying guitars and the such but urban and pop artists buying the "bling" and the $1,000,000 cars.
no, usually it's the debt they have through the recording company that nails them.
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Old 6th September 2003, 07:17   #18
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Well, I suppose that that shows the extent of my knowledge about the record industry.

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Old 6th September 2003, 17:55   #19
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Old 6th September 2003, 21:26   #20
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Actually, as far as I know the RIAA does not recieve money from CD sales...the RIAA is an industry for the artists and for copyright purposes, FM stations pay the RIAA and ASCAP yearly for copyright and other fees because they make money using these artists music. And the fact is that most artists make hardly any money off of their CD's, most of it goes to the songwriters, producers, and record companies, a majority of the artists make money from Endorsing products and touring...

And to answer your question PCRADIONET, if you are not licensed by BMI or another company that offers licensing for your stream then you do have the chance of being suied, but the chances of that happing are extremely small unless you are making money off of it.
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Well. I guess I'm in the clear then since I make no money from my station, nor spend money to run it.

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I guess I'm in the clear then since I make no money from my station, nor spend money to run it.
False.

If you're compliant (paying licensing fees) then you're in the clear.

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Old 6th September 2003, 22:30   #23
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well unfortunately, until licenses get cheaper, i am not "compliant" either, but i may plan to be, but i purchase the cd's so thats my suport. I cant support them anymore at this point :P

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Old 8th September 2003, 19:00   #24
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Interesting given that $14 per month is one option, and that is the same price as one CD.

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my station produces too many hours, that wouldn't work too well man..

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Old 9th September 2003, 02:02   #26
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Oh that's kewl. I was refering to Live365 btw. My bad for not making that clearer
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Old 9th September 2003, 02:14   #27
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heh i thought u meant the swcast thing haha... my bad too ...

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Old 9th September 2003, 02:14   #28
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no offense but live365 is just not that great of an option when compared with SHOUTcast. If live would ever get off their asses and start inovating then maybe they would be worth it.
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Well now that Live365 instituted listener caps, I think they are essentially far less attractive. At least before, they could vouch for having unlimited service for a flat fee. Now they are basically in the same category as any other streaming service provider (with the exception that they provide a package broadcasting solution and a community, which is often helpful for the less technically inclined).

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Old 11th September 2003, 10:32   #30
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Promotion

Hi guys,

Hav'nt you noticed already that the Labels will give you CDs for free?
Contact the Music Labels under Promotion and they will definatly give you free CDs now and then.
I am on many Promotion Lists from Artits, Managers and Labels (such as Universal Music - who are very nice when giving out free music) and various others.
If they give you the CDS that also means they are giving you the go to broadcast the music from their Music Labels!
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Old 12th September 2003, 00:57   #31
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i heard on Boycott RIAA they say that alot of station on Shoutcast thing Got Shut down......THIS JUST GAY!!! (RIAA = BITCH ASS)
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Old 12th September 2003, 02:32   #32
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who is responsible?

In the case of a station, say the station has 10 DJ's is the person running the server/station responsible for the licensing in order to broadcast it, or is it the individual DJ? More or less who would be liable if a station where to get in trouble, the DJ or the person who is running the server?
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Knowin RIAA they would go after each DJ

as well as anybody that works for the station... Most of the time they'll ask you to quit broadcasting.

If the person running the server is unaware of the illigal broadcasts then he/she will not be liable in the instance of a 3rd party streammer

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Old 12th September 2003, 02:47   #34
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Yeah..

Basically I was wondering if Say I DJ'd for a station, would the station ultimately be liable or would I the DJ be liable?
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Old 12th September 2003, 07:46   #35
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Probably the source (DJ).

For a more definitive answer, please consult legal assistance.

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DJ unless you belong to an organization

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It depends on what country you are in, in the US accoring to SorceryKid and his swcast.net thing, the person responsible is the person/compnay running the site that contains the link to the stream. To me that says that if you don't put a link to your stream on your website but you just get all your listeners through the sc directory then it's nullsoft's problem. Don't know how true this is as i live in the UK and things are different here, ask SorceryKid for more info as he is apparently quite well up on these things.

Also i don't thinlk anyone would get arrested for streaming withgout a license. You are more likely to get a latter from a bunch of lawers telling you to stop or else.


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ya I heard about that I have an lot of mp3s on my computer for kazza but i have not been arrested. They got a 12 year old for it too
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a 12 year old? ah the justice department needs PR again, ah well... keep on sueing your customers record industry, be prepared to fall!

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