Any VJ's around here? - Page 2

LAZY-I · 24th August 2003, 03:43

IMHO AVS doesn't look very good full screen and the frame rate sucks

Tuggummi · 26th August 2003, 12:18

Yes AVS sucks at Vj:ing. It's more for personal enjoyment

Why it sucks for Vj:ing?

1) It crashes often (i guess it would be pretty humiliating if the screen suddenly disappears...)

2) It's slow!

3) Slow

4) Did i mention slowness?

5) The beat detection blows and is unable to detect the beat from a live feed (if i remember right, avs calculates the beats and then makes a "intelligent" guess for the bpm of the whole song and since live feed is basicly a endless song, you know what that means...).

6) Most presets don't work in highres, because they weren't designed for highres'es (doh

)

Magic.X · 26th August 2003, 12:50

1. it nearly never crashed, even when running for hours!

2. + 3. + 4. its ok when using lowres + overlay to output

5. therefore we have a readapt button (and remote readapting in hotlist 2.3)
you could also turn to standard (no prediction)

6. meh...

Tuggummi · 26th August 2003, 13:00

1) clearly you don't run the ever-so-cool and complex presets of UnConeD, Jheriko, Skupers, Zevensoft... You're, or should i say your crowd is missing out a lot...

2) Might look better with a projector since you gain some "extra smoothness" to the image.

5) Who uses that?

6) blaah...

Morninglight · 26th August 2003, 21:35

some mud throwing in my Vj topic

1. Nearly never is not good enough

2. I use a P3-m 866mhz with a ATi Mobility m6 16MB DDR for the visuals @800x600 which I output to my videomixer at s-video (768x576@25fps) MD reaches 40-60fps woich is overkill

5. I use beat detection!

6. see 2

but I'm in the process of learning Flash for my real VJ app so I think I won't have time to even look at AVS and MD is more than sufficient for what I use it for.

I just recieved a a nice email with the message that I won a VJ contest for a set in the "Waakzaamheid" The Netherlands on a nice hardhouse event

www.in2beats.com

Rovastar · 27th August 2003, 01:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Morninglight

2. I use a P3-m 866mhz with a ATi Mobility m6 16MB DDR for the visuals @800x600 which I output to my videomixer at s-video (768x576@25fps) MD reaches 40-60fps woich is overkill
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Yeah always above 40-60fps with text and sprites?! as well ??! with a 1024x1024 texture size and maximum mesh on?? The horrible matrox 16MB G450 I am using at the moment as not at my machine runs like a pig. My 128mb G4200 runs some of the more complicated ones and some transitions at slightly slower speeds with these settings.

Tuggummi · 27th August 2003, 09:22

Well unlike many... well ALL milkdrop users like milkdrop is because it DOES use the gfx card, but i don't like it because it does use the gfx card

Magic.X · 27th August 2003, 11:22

Although i have to admit that you may do neat things with the new superscopes.

I give a shit wheter a program uses this or that hardware. All that counts is what you could do with it.

Tuggummi · 27th August 2003, 11:27

Well my gfx card sucks as hell so it does matter

AVS probably works faster for me than milkdrop

Magic.X · 28th August 2003, 10:13

LoL@Tugg's Voodoo I §D Addon Card

Morninglight · 28th August 2003, 11:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Rovastar
Yeah always above 40-60fps with text and sprites?! as well ??! with a 1024x1024 texture size and maximum mesh on?? The horrible matrox 16MB G450 I am using at the moment as not at my machine runs like a pig. My 128mb G4200 runs some of the more complicated ones and some transitions at slightly slower speeds with these settings.

I never use any sprites or text in MD anymore because I can mix flash/video with my Panasonic videomixer

but, face it... my laptops ATi Mobility Radeon m6 16MB DDR is faster that your PC's G450 16MB (NON-DDR!)

Rovastar · 28th August 2003, 11:40

True you have a quicker card then the g450 but not quicker than my gf4ti

Don't use text and sprites dear me. That would be find if they didn't have the 'burn' feature but MilKkrop does and that is the key. It is by far the most impressive part about the sprites and text.

No mixer in the world can do that.

Tuggummi · 28th August 2003, 12:33

Quote:

LoL@Tugg's Voodoo I §D Addon Card

Bah, not voodoo...

It's some sucky S3 - Savage 4 card... Overheats when running 3D on top of all the slowness & suckyness

Morninglight · 16th September 2003, 17:23

My VJ career is ramping up.. I just got a monthly residency at a 1K ppl rave in my hometown and a monthly residency at a club nearby

it's time to start looking abroad

Magic.X · 23rd September 2003, 08:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Morninglight
My VJ career is ramping up..

Mine too! Just got bookings for 18.11. and 31.12. in Double D - Club!

(i hope that i got my new A64 then and H2.3 is done by the time)

Morninglight · 23rd September 2003, 14:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Magic.X
Mine too! Just got bookings for 18.11. and 31.12. in Double D - Club!

(i hope that i got my new A64 then and H2.3 is done by the time)

nice

a64 and H2.3

what are those?

you have a website where you show your stuff? I still have to get some good pics of my current show, still have old stuff on my own site

Tuggummi · 25th September 2003, 07:49

a64= a 64 bit Athlon Processor

H2.3= Hotlist 2.3 , a tool to view&organize AVS presets in any way you want

Magic.X · 25th September 2003, 14:36

Thanx for decrypting my speech Tug

I actually have 2 Websites, one made for publishing Hotlist (as the plugins section sucks pretty much) the other one for our loacal party crew (german only). I do have few pics up, but most of them are rather old. I already collected them and posted links here some time ago. Just search for the topic.

Morninglight · 26th September 2003, 01:33

do you have a direct link to the gallery?

My first weekend is coming with 2 gigs (friday and sunday).. sunday is the first with 2 beamers in parrallel

hope to get that workin goff my Panasonic AVE5 videomixer...

whish me luck

Magic.X · 29th September 2003, 14:38

Good luck!

I posted most of my pictures here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....light=pictures

Most of them are not very good after all.

Morninglight · 30th September 2003, 09:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Magic.X
Good luck!

I posted most of my pictures here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....light=pictures

Most of them are not very good after all.

It's very hard to take good pics of the fast moving stuff, you need a very light sensitive camera like the Sony F717 and do some photoshoppin with levels afterwards to get it right.

I'll post some pics of my shows later this week

Got an extra 4 bookings for the coming 2 months

and another bookingsagency that interested in me

Magic.X · 6th October 2003, 13:15

Pictures? I want to see some pictures!

I use to make pictures by screenshoting camcorder streams. This results in better light captureing.

Morninglight · 7th October 2003, 12:53

www.morninglight.nl -> Vj Pics

I update that regularly with new pics... all pics of last weekends gig were blurry cause there was more light just in front of the DJ with the screen just behind the DJ..

26th August 2003, 12:18	#42
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,173	Yes AVS sucks at Vj:ing. It's more for personal enjoyment Why it sucks for Vj:ing? 1) It crashes often (i guess it would be pretty humiliating if the screen suddenly disappears...) 2) It's slow! 3) Slow 4) Did i mention slowness? 5) The beat detection blows and is unable to detect the beat from a live feed (if i remember right, avs calculates the beats and then makes a "intelligent" guess for the bpm of the whole song and since live feed is basicly a endless song, you know what that means...). 6) Most presets don't work in highres, because they weren't designed for highres'es (doh ) Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

26th August 2003, 12:50	#43
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	1. it nearly never crashed, even when running for hours! 2. + 3. + 4. its ok when using lowres + overlay to output 5. therefore we have a readapt button (and remote readapting in hotlist 2.3) you could also turn to standard (no prediction) 6. meh... -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

26th August 2003, 13:00	#44
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,173	1) clearly you don't run the ever-so-cool and complex presets of UnConeD, Jheriko, Skupers, Zevensoft... You're, or should i say your crowd is missing out a lot... 2) Might look better with a projector since you gain some "extra smoothness" to the image. 5) Who uses that? 6) blaah... Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

27th August 2003, 09:22	#47
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,173	Well unlike many... well ALL milkdrop users like milkdrop is because it DOES use the gfx card, but i don't like it because it does use the gfx card Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

27th August 2003, 11:22	#48
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Although i have to admit that you may do neat things with the new superscopes. I give a shit wheter a program uses this or that hardware. All that counts is what you could do with it. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

24th August 2003, 03:43	#41
LAZY-I Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Honolulu Posts: 3	IMHO AVS doesn't look very good full screen and the frame rate sucks

26th August 2003, 21:35	#45
Morninglight Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 100	some mud throwing in my Vj topic 1. Nearly never is not good enough 2. I use a P3-m 866mhz with a ATi Mobility m6 16MB DDR for the visuals @800x600 which I output to my videomixer at s-video (768x576@25fps) MD reaches 40-60fps woich is overkill 5. I use beat detection! 6. see 2 but I'm in the process of learning Flash for my real VJ app so I think I won't have time to even look at AVS and MD is more than sufficient for what I use it for. I just recieved a a nice email with the message that I won a VJ contest for a set in the "Waakzaamheid" The Netherlands on a nice hardhouse event www.in2beats.com

27th August 2003, 11:27	#49
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,173	Well my gfx card sucks as hell so it does matter AVS probably works faster for me than milkdrop Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

28th August 2003, 10:13	#50
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	LoL@Tugg's Voodoo I §D Addon Card -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

28th August 2003, 11:40	#52
Rovastar Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 3,632	True you have a quicker card then the g450 but not quicker than my gf4ti Don't use text and sprites dear me. That would be find if they didn't have the 'burn' feature but MilKkrop does and that is the key. It is by far the most impressive part about the sprites and text. No mixer in the world can do that. "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools" Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

16th September 2003, 17:23	#54
Morninglight Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 100	My VJ career is ramping up.. I just got a monthly residency at a 1K ppl rave in my hometown and a monthly residency at a club nearby it's time to start looking abroad

25th September 2003, 07:49	#57
Tuggummi Bin King Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 2,173	a64= a 64 bit Athlon Processor H2.3= Hotlist 2.3 , a tool to view&organize AVS presets in any way you want Texer Resources Im retarded... err i mean retired! Probably both...

25th September 2003, 14:36	#58
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Thanx for decrypting my speech Tug I actually have 2 Websites, one made for publishing Hotlist (as the plugins section sucks pretty much) the other one for our loacal party crew (german only). I do have few pics up, but most of them are rather old. I already collected them and posted links here some time ago. Just search for the topic. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

26th September 2003, 01:33	#59
Morninglight Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 100	do you have a direct link to the gallery? My first weekend is coming with 2 gigs (friday and sunday).. sunday is the first with 2 beamers in parrallel hope to get that workin goff my Panasonic AVE5 videomixer... whish me luck

29th September 2003, 14:38	#60
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Good luck! I posted most of my pictures here: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....light=pictures Most of them are not very good after all. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

6th October 2003, 13:15	#62
Magic.X Major Dude Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Leipzig / Germany Posts: 859	Pictures? I want to see some pictures! I use to make pictures by screenshoting camcorder streams. This results in better light captureing. -=[The Ultimate VJ-Tool for AVS]=- Hotlist 2.3 developement thread (old)

7th October 2003, 12:53	#63
Morninglight Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 100	www.morninglight.nl -> Vj Pics I update that regularly with new pics... all pics of last weekends gig were blurry cause there was more light just in front of the DJ with the screen just behind the DJ..

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