Old 10th March 2004, 21:49   #1
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Open quicktime movies in winamp?

How can you make it so quicktime movies play in winamp.
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Old 10th March 2004, 22:43   #2
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is there an option like that..?
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Old 10th March 2004, 23:32   #3
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I'm asking if there is.
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http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=134889

Havn't tried it, but it says It supports MOV files. (MOV is the standard quicktime movie format)

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Old 11th March 2004, 02:34   #5
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I think that if you uninstall QuickTime and install QuickTime Alternative at Http://www.k-litecodecpack.com/ and add mov to the dShow filter that'll work, but i'm not sure.
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Old 11th March 2004, 06:17   #6
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[EDIT] Please read my notes at the end of this post first. We recommend using in_qt.dll instead of Powerplayer2 for MOV support. [/EDIT]
Quote:
Originally posted by Kickboy12
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=134889
Wow! Kudos to Kickboy12

I didn't realize the PowerPlayer II plugin had been updated for WA5 compatibilty.
It's dated Jul 24 2003 on the plugins page, which is probably some database screwup or something.


Ok... here's the tutorial dudes


PowerPlayer II Plugin (in_avrun.dll)
Replaces/overrides the Nullsoft DirectShow Decoder (in_dshow.dll)
Provides support for the following formats:
DVD/SVCD/VCD Playback
MPEG-1 (mpg;mpeg;mpe;mpv;m1v)
MPEG-2 (m2v;vob)
AVI container (avi;ogm;dvx;divx)
Windows Media Video (asf;wmv)
QuickTime Movie (mov)
Shockwave Flash (swf)
Real Media (ra;rm)

Feature List
-Adds extra option to Enqueue+Play from Explorer context menu
(ie. adds file to end of current playlist, and plays it)
-Pan & Scan, widescreen, zoom
-Extensive features & config options via right click in video window
-Integrated with main winamp window, just like in_dshow (with option to detach)
-Option to choose video/dvd renderer/codec
-Option to add audio effects
-Advanced Decoder/Renderer settings
-Playlist support
-loads more

Most importantly, it's 100% freeware (GNU GPL Licence)

Basically, it uses whatever DirectShow Filters and codecs are already installed on the system, eg.
RealPlayer support requires RealPlayer/RealAlternative Engine to be installed, etc.


The file extension support list is stored in winamp.ini (at the very end of the file)

I noticed a couple of discrepancies with this list,
and I recommend the following changes:

extlist7=Shockwave Flash (*.swf) | swf;exe;exé

change this to just:

extlist7=Shockwave Flash (*.swf) | swf

(not a good idea to let winamp take .exe association)

extlist8=Real Media (*.ra;*.rm) | ra;rm;rmi

change this to just:

extlist8=Real Media (*.ra;*.rm) | ra;rm

Note: .RMI is a MIDI format, not a RealMedia format.



You can also customize this list to support DirectShow Audio Filters, eg. AC3

I've added the following line to the end of the list in winamp.ini, and .AC3 is handled perfectly:

extlist9=DShow Audio (*.ac3) | ac3


You can also disable any of the PP2 associations by simply placing a semi-colon at the beginning of the line in winamp.ini

eg.

[in_avrun]
;extlist1=MPEG-1 video (*.mpg) | mpg;mpeg;mpe;mpv;m1v;mpq
;extlist2=MPEG-2 video (*.m2v) | m2v;vob
extlist2=MPEG-2 video (*.vob) | vob
extlist3=Video-CD (*.dat) | dat
;extlist4=Audio Video Interleave (*.avi;*.ogm) | avi;ogm;dvx;divx
;extlist5=Windows Media (*.asf;*.wmv) | asf;wmv;asx
;extlist6=QuickTime Movie (*.mov) | mov
extlist7=Shockwave Flash (*.swf) | swf
;extlist8=Real Media (*.ra;*.rm) | ra;rm
;extlist9=DShow Audio (*.ac3;*.mpc) | ac3;mpc;mpa

This will make PP2 associated with VOB, DAT and SWF only.


Note: be sure to close Winamp before editing winamp.ini


I also recommend that after you install it, but before you open Winamp, edit winamp.ini to remove any filetypes you associate with PowerPlayer2 from the Nullsoft DirectShow plugin (in_dshow.dll) section...

ie. edit accordingly:

[in_dshow]
extlist=MPEG;MPG;AVI;ASF;WMV;M2V;OGM;DVX;AC3

(remove any extensions you've associated with PP2 from this list).


If you've also installed the Tara plugin for RealPlayer format support, then you can choose which of the two plugins to use for RA & RM, ie. edit one of winamp.ini or tara.ini accordingly.



I'll probably do more testing later,

eg. to see if there's any problems/conflicts if both in_avrun and in_dshow are enabled, but configured to handle different formats/extensions...

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EDIT

If QuickTime Player is installed, and you absolutely definitely need it (eg. if you also use iTunes/iTMS, ick), then use this for QT/MOV instead

Nullsoft QuickTime MOV plugin (in_qt.dll):
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....12#post1310712


If QuickTime Player is installed, but you don't need it, uninstall it, then install latest QuickTime Alternative, and then add ;MOV to the extension list in Winamp's DirectShow Decoder config (Winamp > Prefs > Plugins > Input > in_dshow > config).
Note, you MUST uninstall QT Player before installing QT Alterntative.

UPDATE
Latest version of in_qt.dll now works perfectly with latest QT Alternative.


EDIT #2

Latest version of PowerPlayer2 now let's you enable/disable filetype handling via its own config (Winamp > Prefs > PowerPlayer > Types tab), so there's no longer any need to manually edit winamp.ini (as in my initial instructions above).
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Old 11th March 2004, 10:26   #7
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Hmm. Tried installing this on Winamp 5, followed your instructions...and anytime I tried to play any video, it would just...exit. No fanfare, no error (checked the error logs in XP just to be sure that didn't get touched), nada. As soon as I uninstalled PPII, everything worked fine again.

Weird.
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Old 11th March 2004, 11:12   #8
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wow... dvd playback.
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Old 11th March 2004, 15:59   #9
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Yeah, I think I'll be using it mainly for DVD, MOV and SWF support.
I'll probably keep in_dshow active and configured to handle AVI, MPG, WMV.

@Rascally
Did you disable Nullsoft DirectShow Decoder (in_dshow.dll)
or at least configure the two plugins not to handle the same formats?
You can edit the in_dshow extension list via:
Prefs > Plugins > Input > DirectShow > config,
but the only way to edit PPII extension list is via winamp.ini

If you didn't, then you'll have two plugins trying to handle the same filetypes.
Either that, or maybe some other 3rd-party plugin is conflicting?
Installed any? eg. extra General Purpose, any active dsp/effect, or an alternative output plugin, etc.
btw, I've only tried it with the Winamp Modern skin so far, not with any 3rd-party skins....
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Old 11th March 2004, 18:39   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by DJ Egg
Yeah, I think I'll be using it mainly for DVD, MOV and SWF support.
I'll probably keep in_dshow active and configured to handle AVI, MPG, WMV.

@Rascally
Did you disable Nullsoft DirectShow Decoder (in_dshow.dll)
or at least configure the two plugins not to handle the same formats?
You can edit the in_dshow extension list via:
Prefs > Plugins > Input > DirectShow > config,
but the only way to edit PPII extension list is via winamp.ini

If you didn't, then you'll have two plugins trying to handle the same filetypes.
Either that, or maybe some other 3rd-party plugin is conflicting?
Installed any? eg. extra General Purpose, any active dsp/effect, or an alternative output plugin, etc.
btw, I've only tried it with the Winamp Modern skin so far, not with any 3rd-party skins....
Exactly the same thing happened to me, I'm running only my needed plugins(out_ds, no dsp, no vis, minimum inputs, ml, ripping/burning and gen_ff), all official NS ones except DrO's one-click show/hide. I had in_dshow completely out of the plugins folder.

I was away for a while.
But I'm feeling much better now.
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Old 11th March 2004, 20:34   #11
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Weird
Not sure what, why or how...

...also, it's one or the other.
I tried to configure PowerPlayer plugin to only handle DVD, MOV and SWF
but with in_avrun.dll present, I can't get in_dshow to work for AVI, MPG, WMV.
Well, I'm getting audio, but no picture, just the blank video window with the ugly PowerPlayer logo in the middle.

Oh well... the option's there, at least :/


Note: there are other plugins which support MOV
but afaik, none of them have been updated for full WA5 compatibility
(apart from NiceMC, which is shareware/adware, ick).
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Old 11th March 2004, 21:33   #12
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Can't expect the plugin to be perfect. I'll mess with it a little when I get home, and maybe figure out the problem. The screenshot on the plugins page is Winamp5 Modern Skin (Possibly only tested on this skin?). So it is possible the skin could be causing the crash.

Rascally and Gonzotek: What skins are you using?
DJ Egg: Possibly can't get in_dshow to work cause PowerPlay is overwriting it? Not sure... I'll look at it more later.

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Old 11th March 2004, 21:46   #13
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Only default modern skin.

I was away for a while.
But I'm feeling much better now.
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Old 11th March 2004, 21:57   #14
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bleh, it also messes up NSV streams.
Can only get them to run if I close & reopen Winamp (if Powerplayer plugin's been used within the session, that is)

Gonna have to disable it for now
(can't be doing with no NSV support)

Yup, definitely a few issues here which need fixing.
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Old 16th March 2004, 10:38   #15
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Hi - just downloaded the plugin and it plays swf perfectly. However, it treats the swf as if it were a visualisation - and progresses with the playlist. My swf-file is audio actually, so I would like the playlist to hold during the swf-file and continue after the file has finished. Can this be done?
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Old 16th March 2004, 21:34   #16
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Not really. The plugin has lots of bugs, and crashes a lot. (I had same problem as everyone else)

Just have to wait and see if the author of the plugin updates it.

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Old 17th March 2004, 08:39   #17
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Re: Open quicktime movies in winamp?

Quote:
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How can you make it so quicktime movies play in winamp.
It might be possible to configure in_dshow.dll so that it supports the 3ivx DS filter suite which also supports .mov files besides .mp4 and .m4a files. I would be very interested if you could test this and report any problems, either here or on the 3ivx forum.

http://www.3ivx.com/
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Old 17th March 2004, 20:32   #18
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I appreciate your research into that plugin DJ Egg -- keep us posted.
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Old 25th March 2004, 21:05   #19
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I have the same instant crash as described.

Its a shame, would love to use this plug-in. Maybe the developer will give us some love?
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Old 25th March 2004, 21:32   #20
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Okay, I played with it some more.

Fresh Winamp install = Crash

Fresh Winamp install using classic skin = Works!

So, Im trying it out, and its pretty nice. My main nitpicks so far are:
-breaks NSVs (according to DJ Egg)
-some videos, take extremely long times to switch in and out of fullscreen, so long as to make it unusable.

For now, I am going back to the default plugin. But I would love this plugins DVD capability and MOV capability. Im gonna email the developer and direct him to this thread.

BTW, Im on Windows XP.
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Old 26th March 2004, 00:36   #21
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Well, here's an update re: QT/MOV support...


Radio@Netscape
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail...fid=1079724085

Comes with Nullsoft QuickTime plugin:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Nullsoft\ActiveX\2.0\in_qt.dll


*Disclaimer*
Not sure about the legality of this,
so might need to delete post at a later date.
I could even post a link just to the actual dll,
so you don't need to install R@N to get it....



For now, I'm using Powerplayer for DVD & SWF support only.
in_dshow handles all other video formats, and in_qt handles MOV.


*pending*
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Old 26th March 2004, 01:14   #22
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i'd appreciate a link to the dll. :o)
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Old 26th March 2004, 03:42   #23
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ok, I'm probably gonna get lynched for this, but here goes...

Nullsoft QuickTime plugin


With Winamp closed, unzip in_qt.dll to the Winamp\Plugins dir.


Also note that you'll probably need to disable built-in vis (spectrum/oscilloscope/beatvis) to avoid a crash, heh

Update (Mar 2006):
There should be no crash with the latest version of in_qt, though note that vis doesn't work because the decoding is done externally via QuickTime, ie. it bypasses Winamp's output system.

Latest version of in_qt supports: MOV, QT, M4V, Protected iTMS M4P & M4B.
Proprietary protected formats require QuickTime to be installed, not QT Alt.
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Old 26th March 2004, 04:21   #24
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installed the powerplay plug-in alas it does not play dvd's.With the DvD in the appropriate drive, every time I hit play or open disk it reverts to the Nulsoft logo and then does nothing. It is still successful at playing all other video files, but I believe this is the nullsoft player that’s taking president over powerplayer. I am currently using Winamp 5.03 Pro and I was unsuccessful in locating the in_dshow.dll file in C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins, hummmmmm suggestons?

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I use winamp for mpegs and avi's but when it comes to ogm, mov and dvd i use media player classic (http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli) but if that .dll works then i'll be using MPC for just DVD and OGM now...

EDIT: Looks like that in_QT.dll is buggy too - when I hit "1" to make the QT movie 100% it crashes winamp...

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Thanks Dr. Egg! I grabbed that DLL and saved it, but to due personal issues I will be unable to test this for several days. I will post here with my results, and thank you for the eye opener!
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Old 27th March 2004, 00:20   #27
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For me in_qt crashes when I stop a quicktime video, but everything thing else about it seems fine.
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Old 27th March 2004, 02:11   #28
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If you're using the beat detector vis in Winamp Modern skin (or equivalent) then turn it off before playing any MOVs. That's the only time I've had any problems (the occasional/rare crash). Without beat detector running though, in_qt is working perfectly. Also note that I uninstalled QT and am using latest QT Alternative codecs/filters.
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Hi, I'm the author of PowerPlayer. I see that there were some problem reported here about powerplayer. I'll work on it as soon as time permit.

Anyway, I've just posted an updated version on the plugins page, it has some modern skin issues fixed and also have a new desktop fullscreen mode. PowerPlayer plugin's page is currently down for staff review, but I hope it'll be up and available soon.

I notice a problem in this thread about NSV incompatibility. I think the solution is to enable the "Auto close video window" option in powerplayer's config. That way whenever powerplayer done playing, it will not show it's logo and restore the video window (the NSV default logo should be shown instead), or it may simply close the video window (just open the video window again and powerplayer should've detached from the window).
--> Tell me if this don't work..

About the modern skin compatibility, yes, the plugin was tested mainly on winamp's default modern skin. But I also tested it on other modern skin I have. They all works, but I know that there were some issues that'll make it don't work with some skins. I would like to propose some new winamp API to be able to improve the compatibility. Can somebody tell me where I can ask?

And here's one more thing.. Dileep D. have kindly create a site for powerplayer (he has just told me). Here's the address : http://www.powerplayer.tk
Have a look on the new site and you can also download powerplayer from the new site. But right now it was still the previous version. I believe it will be updated soon.

I don't go online and check my emails every day. So if someone emails me, don't expect immediate reply . But I will check on this thread every time I go online.



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Old 27th March 2004, 07:18   #30
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Thanks for the update Indra

Hmm, not sure what or why yet, but when I go to Powerplayer config,
"stop playback when video window is closed"
and "keep video window visible when winamp minimized"
are both now grayed out (so I can't checkmark them).

However, the "auto close video window" setting seems to do the trick.
Note, I'm using Winamp Modern skin with video window attached to main window, so all I need to do now is click the "video/avs" button twice to close/reopen vid window, and then the Nullsoft logo reappears and NSV (and video formats still associated with in_dshow and in_qt) now play properly again... which is a lot better than having to close & reopen winamp.

So basically, yes, I'm very happy to have SWF and DVD/vob/dat support via Powerplayer... but as I said above, I'm still using in_dshow for AVI/MPG/DIVX/ASF/WMV and in_qt for MOV, but this may change as PP2 development progresses.

And of course, the Enqueue+Play feature via WampEnq.exe is essential. Hmm, I wonder if you would consider releasing WampEnq as a separate plugin?
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Indra Pramana,
Glad to see you followed my email here! Thank you for supporting your work! Also, thank you for releasing it under the GPL, that is always a good thing.

Anyway, as I said a few posts ago, I am currently unable to play with my computer, but when I can I will try your fix and the new version! Thanks for continuing work on this plugin - its very powerful already and has potential to be the best.

If you need any help troubleshooting, IE need any more info from me or help with beta testing or whatever, I would be happy to help.

DJ Egg, can you help him with a way to contact whoever he would need to to propose his API requests?
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Old 18th April 2004, 04:57   #33
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What about using k-lite's codec pack (the one that includes real & quicktime alternative) and adding the appropriate extensions to the directshow filter (like for using Winamp instead of RealOne)??
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Works for some local rm/ra files, but not all, and doesn't work for rtsp:// streams.

Mixed reports so far with adding ;MOV to in_dshow config.
Didn't work too well for me anyway.

imo, it's still best to use in_tara for Real, and in_qt
though, for sure, Real Alt and QT Alt are always recommended...


@djLant1k (Indra Pramana)

Just wondering...
Have you considered releasing WampEnq as a separate plugin?
The ability to Enqueue+Play from Explorer context menus / browser is one of my favorite features of PowerPlayer2.
And many people have been requesting this function for many years...
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Quote:
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ok, I'm probably gonna get lynched for this, but here goes...

Nullsoft QuickTime plugin


[note: this link might not last too long]

You are the best! Thank you! Is there something like this for REAL media?
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Old 22nd April 2004, 18:03   #36
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Yes, the link to in_tara plugin is in my post directly above yours.
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Old 22nd April 2004, 18:59   #37
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DJEgg, you are awesome. I wait for a plug-in like in_qt.dll since Winamp 2.90.

Thank you very much, so I don't need the Tara plug-in anymore.
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Hmm...

in_qt.dll is for playback of QuickTime .MOV format
in_tara is for playback of RealMedia .RA/.RM formats.

Whether you need one or both all depends on if you want support for both QuickTime and RealPlayer formats.
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Hmm...

in_qt.dll is for playback of QuickTime .MOV format
in_tara is for playback of RealMedia .RA/.RM formats.

Whether you need one or both all depends on if you want support for both QuickTime and RealPlayer formats.
Nope, I have some .mov files, but no Real Media file, so I need just in_qt, and no other third party plug-in or player.

Real Alternative and in_dshow.dll should work together to play .ra and .rm files.

[edit]Ah, I see my mistake, I don't mean Tara, you are right, Tara ist just for RealMedia, and not for QuickTime. Sorry, for my mistake, but I am a little bit tired [/edit]


Finally, I don't need an other third party plug-in or any other player to play my .mov files.

Thanks.
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ok, I'm probably gonna get lynched for this, but here goes...

Nullsoft QuickTime plugin


With Winamp closed, unzip in_qt.dll to the Winamp\Plugins dir.

I just tried this one. It didn't appear in Plug-ins. It did play my .MOV file though...no video, just audio.
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