Old 19th March 2012, 01:45   #1
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Winamp not responding

I few versions back this problem started happening and I can't seem to rectify the issue. With some MP3's Winamp will stutter for lengths of time and Winamp will come up as not responding. If I wait long enough most times it will stop it's stuttering and start playing the song normaly but this could carry on for a good 2 or 3 mins maybe longer on some songs. If I double click on an MP3 in windows explorer to play it in Winamp the explorer windows also goes to not responding.
If I play any of these MP3's in WMP or any other Media player for that matter they play normally with no issues.
I'm using the newest version of Winamp Pro and have no extra plugins. I also just did a fresh install of Winamp Pro. I've tried a lot of different settings and have also downloaded other codecs to see if it helps, nothing seems to work. I've treid to google this issue with no results, I'm at a loss and wish to contunue using Winamp but this issue is getting rediculous.
Using Windows 7 Pro 64bit.
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Old 19th March 2012, 20:24   #2
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Nobody has input on this matter?
Since I posted I have Installed Winamp 2.95 and 3.0, both work fine with MP3's that are giving me the stuttering/pausing issues in the newest versions. I guess I will have to keep downloading and find a 5.0 version that works but would like a fix for the newest version. I did pay for Winamp and to have it not completely functional is troubling.
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Old 19th March 2012, 21:26   #3
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Only MP3s? Any chance of linking to an example?

When you get no replies to a post it usually means no one else is getting your issue. You will also find no replies when you are missing little things like "plug-in lists" as per the sticky. (Locate OneForNunz and run that to get the plugins)

Also - when you did a "clean install" - do you really mean that? Did you delete everything in C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp and C:\Users\TekHed\AppData\Winamp ?
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Old 19th March 2012, 22:06   #4
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Only MP3s? Any chance of linking to an example?

When you get no replies to a post it usually means no one else is getting your issue. You will also find no replies when you are missing little things like "plug-in lists" as per the sticky. (Locate OneForNunz and run that to get the plugins)

Also - when you did a "clean install" - do you really mean that? Did you delete everything in C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp and C:\Users\TekHed\AppData\Winamp ?
Yes clean install deleted all folders and all registry entries. No plugins except for the default ones that come with installing Winamp.
I should clarify when the particular MP3's are played Winamp becomes unresponsive for the length of time the MP3 is stuttering/pausing, hence the post title. Once I stop playing the MP3 Winamp becomes responsive until I start whatever mp3 I'm having the issues with again. It's not just 1 or 2 MP3's it's having issues with, but quite a few. I can't see anything different with the MP3's that it has issues with and the ones it doesn't.
Yes it seems to be only MP3's at this point, which as stated before play fine in any other Media player.

Plug In List :
Installed Winamp plug-in list
Generated by 'One for Nunz v5.11' on 20/03/2012 at 9:51:02 AM

<< Winamp Information >>

Winamp.ini path is: C:\Users\JMan\AppData\Roaming\Winamp\Winamp.ini
Plug-in directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins
Visualisation directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins
DSP directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins
Skin directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Skins
Language Pack directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Lang

Using Winamp version: 5.62 (Build 3199 FINAL_2011_1209_165006)
Winamp Elevator build: Build 3199 FINAL_2011_1209_165006

Current skin: Bento (Modern skin)
Sonic Burning Engine is installed
Pro registered version

<< OS Information >>

Running on: Windows 7 (Service Pack 1)
Memory available: 8.00 GB


<< Input plug-ins >>

Nullsoft AVI Demuxer v0.6 [in_avi.dll]
Nullsoft CD Plug-in (MusicID 2.6) v3.92 [in_cdda.dll]
Nullsoft DirectShow Decoder v1.08 [in_dshow.dll]
Nullsoft FLAC Decoder v2.5 [in_flac.dll]
Nullsoft Flash Video Decoder v1.4 [in_flv.dll]
Nullsoft LineIn Plug-in v3.12 [in_linein.dll]
Nullsoft MIDI Player v3.5 [in_midi.dll]
Nullsoft Matroska Demuxer v0.7 [in_mkv.dll]
Nullsoft Module Decoder v2.88 [in_mod.dll]
Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder v4.98 [in_mp3.dll]
Nullsoft MP4 Demuxer v2.5 [in_mp4.dll]
Nullsoft NSV Decoder v1.7 [in_nsv.dll]
Nullsoft Flash Control Playback v1.1 [in_swf.dll]
Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder v1.59 [in_vorbis.dll]
Nullsoft Waveform Decoder v3.19 [in_wave.dll]
Nullsoft Windows Media Decoder v3.6 [in_wm.dll]

<< Output plug-ins >>

Nullsoft Disk Writer v2.14 [out_disk.dll]
Nullsoft DirectSound Output v2.6 (d) [out_ds.dll] [active]
Nullsoft WaveOut Output v2.13 (d) [out_wave.dll]

<< Visualisation plug-ins >>

Advanced Visualization Studio v2.81d [vis_avs.dll]
MilkDrop v2.24 [vis_milk2.dll] [active]
Nullsoft Tiny Fullscreen v2.12 [vis_nsfs.dll]

<< DSP plug-ins >>

Nullsoft Signal Processing Studio DSP v0.39b [dsp_sps.dll]

<< General Purpose plug-ins >>

Nullsoft Modern Skins Support v1.42 [gen_ff.dll]
Nullsoft Global Hotkeys v1.9 [gen_hotkeys.dll]
Jump To File Extra v1.2.5 (Build 1160) [gen_jumpex.dll]
Nullsoft Media Library v3.61 [gen_ml.dll]
One for Nunz v5.11 [gen_nunzio.dll]
Nullsoft Music Usage Database v1.0 [gen_orgler.dll]
Nullsoft Tray Control v2.41 [gen_tray.dll]

<< Media Library plug-ins >>

Nullsoft Now Playing v3.9 [ml_nowplaying.dll]
Nullsoft Local Media v3.03 [ml_local.dll]
Nullsoft Playlists v1.2 [ml_playlists.dll]
Nullsoft Winamp Add-ons v1.1 [ml_addons.dll]
Nullsoft Online Services v1.67 [ml_online.dll]
Nullsoft Podcasts v1.29 [ml_wire.dll]
Nullsoft Device Manager v1.0 [ml_devices.dll]
Nullsoft Rip & Burn v1.92 [ml_disc.dll]
Nullsoft Portable Music Player Support v1.32 [ml_pmp.dll]
Nullsoft Bookmarks v1.2 [ml_bookmarks.dll]
Nullsoft History v1.9 [ml_history.dll]
Nullsoft Auto-Tagger v2.04 [ml_autotag.dll]
Nullsoft Downloads v1.01 [ml_downloads.dll]
Nullsoft Database Import/Export v2.4 [ml_impex.dll]
Nullsoft Playlist Generator v1.7 [ml_plg.dll]
Nullsoft Replay Gain Analyzer v1.2 [ml_rg.dll]
Nullsoft Format Converter v2.71 [ml_transcode.dll]

<< Portable Media Player plug-ins >>

Nullsoft Android Device Plug-in v1.5 [pmp_android.dll]
Nullsoft iPod Plug-in v0.84 [pmp_ipod.dll]
Nullsoft Creative NJB Plug-in v0.54 [pmp_njb.dll]
Nullsoft PlaysForSure Plug-in v0.95 [pmp_p4s.dll]
Nullsoft USB Device Plug-in v1.4 [pmp_usb.dll]
Nullsoft Wi-Fi Device Plug-in v1.5 [pmp_wifi.dll]

<< Encoder plug-ins >>

[enc_fhgaac.dll]
MPEG-4 AAC Encoder v1.03
SHOUTcast MPEG-2 ADTS-AAC Encoder v1.03
[enc_flac.dll]
FLAC Encoder v2.3 (libFLAC v1.2.1)
[enc_lame.dll]
MP3 Encoder v1.36
[enc_wav.dll]
WAV Encoder v1.02a
[enc_wma.dll]
WMA Encoder v1.22a

<< Summary of system components (*.w5s) >>
(These are not included in the plug-in counts below)
aacdec.w5s (901kb)
adpcm.w5s (15kb)
albumart.w5s (22kb)
auth.w5s (170kb)
bmp.w5s (19kb)
devices.w5s (43kb)
dlmgr.w5s (16kb)
filereader.w5s (14kb)
gif.w5s (19kb)
gracenote.w5s (16kb)
h264.w5s (641kb)
jnetlib.w5s (609kb)
jpeg.w5s (151kb)
mp4v.w5s (197kb)
ombrowser.w5s (294kb)
pcm.w5s (12kb)
playlist.w5s (82kb)
png.w5s (101kb)
primo.w5s (13kb)
tagz.w5s (21kb)
theora.w5s (52kb)
timer.w5s (34kb)
vlb.w5s (121kb)
vp6.w5s (177kb)
vp8.w5s (139kb)
xml.w5s (88kb)

<< Summary of all dlls in the root winamp folder (*.dll) >>
(These are not included in the plug-in counts below)
burnlib.dll (81kb) [not loaded]
elevatorps.dll (45kb) [not loaded]
libFLAC.dll (133kb) [loaded]
libmp4v2.dll (176kb) [not loaded]
libsndfile.dll (247kb) [loaded]
nde.dll (77kb) [loaded]
nsutil.dll (407kb) [loaded]
pxsdkpls.DLL (194kb) [not loaded]
tataki.dll (82kb) [loaded]
zlib.dll (46kb) [loaded]

<< Summary of all dlls in the plugins\gracenote folder (*.dll) >>
(These are not included in the plug-in counts below)
CDDBControlWinamp.dll (1577kb) [not loaded]
CddbMusicIDWinamp.dll (905kb) [not loaded]
CddbPlaylist2Winamp.dll (1101kb) [not loaded]
CDDBUIWinamp.dll (1017kb) [not loaded]
CddbWOManagerWinamp.dll (381kb) [not loaded]
Cddbx1.dll (221kb) [not loaded]
Cddbx2.dll (1353kb) [not loaded]
Cddbx3.dll (1641kb) [not loaded]
Cddbx4.dll (269kb) [not loaded]
Cddbx5.dll (381kb) [not loaded]

<< Summary of installed plug-ins >>

16 Input plug-ins installed
3 Output plug-ins installed
3 Visualisation plug-ins installed
1 DSP plug-in installed
7 General Purpose plug-ins installed
17 Media Library plug-ins installed
6 Portable Media Player plug-ins installed
5 Encoder plug-ins installed

Total: 58 plug-ins installed


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Associated Winamp file extensions list

<< Reported extensions from Winamp >>

AVI
CDA
MPG
MPEG
M2V
AVI
FLAC
FLV
MID
MIDI
RMI
KAR
MIZ
MKV
WEBM
MOD
MDZ
NST
STM
STZ
S3M
S3Z
IT
ITZ
XM
XMZ
MTM
ULT
669
FAR
AMF
OKT
PTM
MP3
MP2
MP1
AAC
VLB
M4A
MP4
M4V
NSV
NSA
SWF
OGG
AIFF
AIF
AU
AVR
CAF
HTK
IFF
MAT
PAF
PVF
RAW
RF64
SD2
SDS
SF
VOC
W64
WAV
WVE
XI
WMA
WMV
ASF
< Playlist Formats >
M3U
PLS
M3U8
B4S
ASX
WPL

Note: There is a likely chance that not all of the above filetypes will be shown
due to an OS limit (260 chars) being reached which will affect you when browsing
for files using the 'All Supported Types' filter in the 'Open files dialog.
The calculated filter string length is: 294 chars


<< Reported extensions from each input plug-in >>
(This should match with Winamp's listing excluding playlist formats)

in_avi.dll AVI

in_cdda.dll CDA

in_dshow.dll MPG MPEG M2V AVI

in_flac.dll FLAC

in_flv.dll FLV

in_linein.dll No extensions reported

in_midi.dll MID MIDI RMI KAR MIZ

in_mkv.dll MKV WEBM

in_mod.dll MOD MDZ NST STM STZ S3M S3Z IT ITZ XM XMZ MTM ULT 669 FAR AMF OKT PTM

in_mp3.dll MP3 MP2 MP1 AAC VLB

in_mp4.dll M4A MP4 M4V

in_nsv.dll NSV NSA

in_swf.dll SWF

in_vorbis.dll OGG

in_wave.dll AIFF AIF AU AVR CAF HTK IFF MAT PAF PVF RAW RF64 SD2 SDS SF VOC W64 WAV WVE XI

in_wm.dll WMA WMV ASF


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Listing of installed input plug-ins (in_*) and the relevent apis which they indicate that they
support to allow you to see how well the plug-in is likely to work with different Winamp builds.

Note: This is a best guess at how well the plug-ins shown should work with Winamp and until
you actually use the plug-ins with Winamp in normal use you will not otherwise know.


A * means the plug-in has support for metadata queries on a file (2.9+)
A # means the plug-in supports saving modified metadata via Winamp apis (2.9+)
A % means the plug-in supports the unified file info dialog and a '%+' shows it adds its own pages (5.5+)
A || means the plug-in supports the api_decoder used for transcoding/replaygain/etc (5.34+)

A || means the plug-in supports the api_decoder used for transcoding/replaygain/etc (5.34+)
and '(Seekable)' indicates extra support in processing of audio data via api_decoder

A {} around a symbol means the plug-in supports the unicode version of the api


in_avi.dll {*} {#}
in_cdda.dll {*} {#} %+ ||
in_dshow.dll {*} {#}
in_flac.dll {*} {#} %+ {||}
in_flv.dll {*} {#}
in_linein.dll
in_midi.dll {*} {#}
in_mkv.dll {*} {#}
in_mod.dll {*} {#} ||
in_mp3.dll {*} {#} %+ {||} (Seekable)
in_mp4.dll {*} {#} % {||} (Seekable)
in_nsv.dll {*} {#}
in_swf.dll {*} {#}
in_vorbis.dll {*} {#} %+ {||} (Seekable)
in_wave.dll {*} {#} || (Seekable)
in_wm.dll {*} {#} %+ {||}


Summary:

'One for Nunz' found 16 installed input plug-ins in 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins'
93% (15) of the plug-ins installed provide the needed 5.x api ("winampGetExtendedFileInfo(..)
or winampGetExtendedFileInfoW(..)") to allow the formats provided by the plug-ins to work with
most of Winamp 5.x's features (more important with higher versions).


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Unicode Taskbar Compatibility Listing


The plug-ins listed below show references to the SetWindowLongA(..) OS api. If this api is used to
subclass Winamp's main window, it can cause Winamp's display of unicode text in the taskbar to fail.
For a plug-in to be compatible it needs to use the unicode version of the api - SetWindowLongW(..).

Being listed here does not mean a plug-in will cause the issue as there are legitimate reasons for
a plug-in to be using SetWindowLongA(..) but it is a good indicator for people who know which ones
are compatible to route out plug-ins which are likely to be causing the issue. Only those plug-ins
which do not also show references to the SetWindowLongW(..) OS api have been included in this list.

If you do experience the issue then there is a way to fix the plug-in(s) if the original author is
no longer supporting or around to fix the plug-in(s) to use SetWindowLongW(..) for the subclassing
by installing the Unicode Taskbar Fix from http://nunzioweb.com/daz/unicodetaskbarfix/index.html


C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\ml_rg.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\in_flac.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\in_midi.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\dsp_sps.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\vis_avs.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\enc_lame.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\enc_wav.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins\enc_wma.dll
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Old 20th March 2012, 02:38   #5
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Just wanted to update on what version it seems to start with. All MP3's play fine in version 5.35, anything newer than this version the problem starts happening.
I have systematically went through, uninstalled and re-installed all versions of Winamp to see what version it starts with. Seems at 5.51 and higher issues start happening.
Any input would be great, thanks in advance.
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Old 20th March 2012, 07:45   #6
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Hi TekHed,

Those mp3s that stutter may have some slight corruption in them. Run them through 'MP3Val' and/or 'MP3Diags'. Both are free utilities that identify and correct various structural errors that may be in your mp3 files. MP3Val is much easier to use and probably safer. MP3Diags is more comprehensive. No app is perfect, so make a backup before letting either app 'correct' a file.

The mp3 spec allows for many ways of encoding and decoding. Some players play slightly 'out of spec' files with no problems while others play them poorly or not at all. Changes to Winamp may have made it less tolerant.

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Old 20th March 2012, 08:47   #7
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Some rippers make odd MP3 files. Are all your tracks from the same source? OR are these from dozens of different sources? As Aminifu says - try repairing some sample tracks. I'd also see if MediaInfo can tell you anything about the tracks. Compare ones that work to ones that don't. http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

Also try and find a way to let the rest of us test a track. Stick it on Sendspace or one of those file sharing sites.

The weirdest part of this issue is that Winamp doesn't crash, it just stutters.
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Old 22nd March 2012, 04:33   #8
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Thanks! I will see what I find with the info suggested. Will post back when I know anything.
In the meantime I'll also try and get one uploaded to somewhere.

They're multiple MP3's from multiple sources and do seem to stutter in the same spot/s every-time they're played. So maybe it could be how they were ripped. Repairing all those MP3's would be a chore, ugh.
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Old 22nd March 2012, 06:15   #9
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Repairing all those MP3's would be a chore, ugh.
Repairing, not really, replacing yes. The repair apps I suggested work in batch mode. After you 'fix' a few samples to see if it fixes the problem and does not screw up anything. You can select all your files and run them through. Those that are ok or contain no fixable errors will not be changed.

I have not had a problem with either app breaking a file (small 6,000+ collection), but it's always good to have a backup. Essential for what's not replaceable.

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Old 22nd March 2012, 11:11   #10
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I repaired a few files with mp3val, one came up as truncated, two others came up with bad headers or something like that.
Anyway... They seemed to be repaired. So I thought.

I copied and pasted these bad mp3's from my NAS(forgot to mention all mp3's are on a NAS) to my desktop. Repaired said mp3's. They played fine locally; I was like "SWEET it worked". Copied and pasted repaired mp3's back to NAS, same stuttering/pausing in the same spots in the mp3's... Wtf!
Still, any mp3 that I play from the NAS in Winamp 5.35 plays fine. Now, I'm not sure if it's the NAS but if Winamp 5.35 plays them I have no idea why any version after that gets this stuttering/pausing/not responding issue.
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Old 22nd March 2012, 12:59   #11
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When was the last time you did a chkdsk on the NAS? Have you done a defrag on the NAS lately? (We had a guy last month's who has an external hard disk that was failing on him and he only spotted this because Winamp was having problems with indexing it)

Do file transfer speeds from the NAS seem OK? I have had situations where a bad quality Ethernet Cable or Network Switch was in use and this introduced errors and delays into all comms.

Is anyone else in the house backing up to the NAS at the same time as you are trying to update the Winamp Database? (I am also thinking about automatic backup tools here)

It could be the NAS itself not keeping up with the data requests and timing out on Winamp, thereby causing the stutter.

There should be no problems with Winamp working over a network. I have all my tunes stashed on a "server" which is only an old P4. With three PCs and a laptop all pointing at the same stack of tunes, using Winamp to play them.


Also Winamp is so old it comes from the days when an office network running at 10Mbps was considered "fast", so it really should handle a slow connection.


I am guessing that your tracks have come from P2P which can lead to some bizarre data. Lots of different ripping methods and tracks with bits "missing" in the middle from an incomplete download. I wonder if Winamp is getting bogged down in dealing with the correcting the errors in broken tracks? (That bit is a guess )
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Old 22nd March 2012, 21:44   #12
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Just for kicks, I checked the NAS this morning, no issues. Network has no issues.

The reason why this is such a weird issue is that any of these files that have problems playing in any version after 5.35, play perfectly fine in version 5.35. I have a Windows 7 32bit laptop running Winamp 5.35 and it plays everything, but has the same issues when I install later versions of Winamp, so it's not just the desktop.

It seems to be only mp3's, all other file types are fine playing in any newer version. What changed in Winamp after 5.35? I'm figuring it's how Winamp is reading them over the network but not totally sure on that.
These files are from an old HDD of mine, nothing wrong with the HDD just an older IDE drive. NAS is a Raid1 configuration connected on a gigabit network... I'm pretty stumped on this one
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Old 22nd March 2012, 22:24   #13
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Good to eliminate any physical issue with the NAS. Did you also check for Firmware updates?

Interesting to read the results of the "fixes" - how they played fine from the local hard disk, but stuttered on the NAS.

Find another album that stutters on your NAS. Copy it to the PC and play it from there without repairing the tracks. Does it still stutter?

If you know how to share music between your PC and Laptop using a shared folder on one of the machines, what happens when you play those tracks across the network? i.e. from PC to PC instead of NAS to PC?


I have got out of the habit of playing MP3 as I now prefer my FLAC rips. I'll play some older MP3s in the next few days across my network and see if I can spot anything. (For you I'll suffer the dead sound of a MP3 on my HiFi...)

I still think it is worth finding some example tracks other people can test. If you happen to find an example on Sendspace\Rapidshare\etc that causes the problem for you, post a link up here. (Surely there must be a genuine free album that can be downloaded you can test: For example Nine Inch Nails did a free to download release (http://theslip.nin.com/))

Or hunt your collection for something that doesn't have a copyright issue with it and stick that up for us to test.
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Old 23rd March 2012, 01:24   #14
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Well I think it's fixed...
I moved some mp3's to different machines and played the said mp3's from those machines over the network with the newest version of Winamp. They played fine!
So hrmmm, I thought it was maybe a permission thing on the NAS so I set different permissions, still stuttering/pausing on the same mp3's.

Then by happenstance I moved one of the problem mp3's to a different folder on the NAS where other mp3's were located. I knew the mp3's in this folder played fine without any issues...

Lo and behold! The farking thing played fine!
I guess you can call this issue fixed although, what still boggles my mind is that any and all mp3's will play fine in Winamp version 5.35 without any changes on the NAS.

I thank you for the time spent on this issue. Funny how it came down to a simple thing like creating a new folder on the NAS and dropping the problem mp3's into it. I have a bit of work to do; as far as moving things around; but at least Winamp 5.623 is playing every bit of my music without issue.
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Old 23rd March 2012, 08:51   #15
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Excellent news. Glad you are getting to the bottom of this. And it is often something really simple that fixes what looks like a complex issue.

Yes, it is odd. Especially the misleading behaviour of older Winamp. Did you read the changelogs to see if you can see anything relevant? Good to see it is fixed, but I would be back to worrying about the physical condition of the drive. Do you have a backup?

If part of the directory path had been corrupted, this would have made sense. When you checked the NAS, did you run a CHKDSK over it?
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Old 23rd March 2012, 10:46   #16
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I'm not sure what Winamp is reading within this certain folder that these mp3's are in but I am systematically going through and deleting any junk files. I'm still getting some pauses within the problem directory but it's not nearly as bad.
At this point I am also not totally sure whether it's Winamp or the NAS or combination of both but it's an odd issue. Didn't really work out anything in the changelogs that would cause something like this but I will have another look.
NAS drives are fine the NAS runs a diagnostic on the HDD's and file system and all were good. It's also running a raid1, so redundancy is definitely there.
I will be trying to find out what exactly is causing this issue but at least I know I'm on the right track. At least this thread may help anyone that runs across a similar problem
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Hi TekHed,

Also glad you found a work around. Seems something about that folder and/or in that folder is messing with transfers to newer Winamp versions. Do you have a way to check for hidden files?

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