Old 17th October 2006, 16:07   #1
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200,000 years to nothing.

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The Times October 12, 2006

200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith

Light pollution would be the first to go, followed by fields, buildings and cities

IF MAN were to vanish from the face of the Earth today, his footprint on the planet would linger for the mere blink of an eye in geological terms.

Within hours, nature would begin to eradicate its impact. In 50,000 years all that would remain would be archaeological traces. Only radioactive materials and a few man-made chemical contaminants would last longer — an invisible legacy.

Homo sapiens has managed just 150,000 years on Earth, and his earliest — debatable — ancestor only six million. By contrast, the dinosaurs populated the planet for 165 million years.

Man’s environmental footprint would, according to a report in New Scientist, begin to deteriorate almost immediately, with light pollution the first to go as power stations ceased to provide energy.

By tomorrow, street lights and house lights left on by their former occupants would start to go out.

Streets and cultivated fields would be the next to go. Within 20 years village streets and rural roads would have vanished under a matting of weeds; fields would be overgrown within months. Urban streets would take a little longer, but even in huge man-made sprawls, such as London and Birmingham, plants would have taken over in about 50 years.

Buildings would decay rapidly. Wooden structures would collapse first, assaulted by bugs and grubs. All such homes would be gone in a century.

Glass and steel tower blocks that create city skylines would mostly fall down within 200 years. Brick, stone and concrete structures would last longer. With exceptions — the pyramids are already 3,000 years old — by the next millennium there would be little more left than ruins.

“If tomorrow dawns without humans, even from orbit the change will be evident almost immediately,” Bob Holmes, of New Scientist, said. “With no-one to make repairs, every storm, flood and frosty night gnaws away at abandoned buildings and within a few decades roofs will begin to fall in and buildings collapse.”

Ronald Chesser, of Texas Tech University, said: “The most pervasive thing you see are plants whose root systems get into the concrete and behind the bricks and into door frames and so forth and are rapidly breaking up the structure.”

Wildlife would thrive in the absence of Man. Most of the 15,589 threatened species will begin to recover immediately towards historical populations.

Carbon dioxide emissions wouldcontinue to cause climate change for another 100 years, but after 1,000 years all would be back to pre-industrial levels, with all man-made traces vanishing in 20,000 years.

However, the most radioactive of untreated nuclear waste would not be safe for up to two million years, John Large, an independent nuclear consultant, said. Man-made chemicals, especially perfluorinated types, would not break down for up to 200,000 years, although it is thought that they would have been buried long before then.

If, 50,000 years hence, an alien archaeologist were to land on an Earth without Man, it might be quite frustrated by the paucity of evidence that we were here at all.



Very interesting, I think.

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Old 17th October 2006, 16:56   #2
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time to begin the war on plants and bugs!
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Old 17th October 2006, 17:07   #3
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I meant actively, instead of the passive stuff we've been doing.
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Old 17th October 2006, 17:08   #4
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Didn't we already?

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Old 17th October 2006, 17:56   #5
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'nuclear waste can remain deadly for up to two million years'

deadly for who if there is noone left?

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Old 17th October 2006, 18:01   #6
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Animals and plants?
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Old 17th October 2006, 21:49   #7
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I think studies have shown that animals in general are much more resistant to radiation in general than humans. There's all sorts of normal wildlife around Chernobyl now that we can't really go see because of the radiation.
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Old 17th October 2006, 21:50   #8
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I think studies have shown that animals in general are much more resistant to radiation in general than humans. There's all sorts of normal wildlife around Chernobyl now that we can't really go see because of the radiation.
Normal 12-feet tall glowing rabbits, yes.

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Old 17th October 2006, 22:08   #9
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Old 17th October 2006, 23:48   #10
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the second you started talking about "light pollution" you lost my interest!

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Old 18th October 2006, 00:43   #11
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That's pretty cool. I'd love to watch a time-lapse video of the decay.

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Old 18th October 2006, 00:44   #12
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Watching the modern version of H.G. Well's "The Time Machine" may satisfy that curisoity.

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Old 18th October 2006, 07:45   #13
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I thought this article to be more interesting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6057734.stm
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Interestingly enough, I'm looking for good copies of H.G. Wells' book The Time Machine, as well as a copy of The Grey Man. It's an exerpt from the original chapter 11 of the book that was published seperatly in, what I'm guessing, was a magazine called New Review. It was thought to be too violent to be a part of his original 1895 book.

Also, I'd like to get ahold of the sequel to The Time Machine, Egon Friedell's The Return of the Time Machine.

Christopher Priest's The Space Machine might be good, but then I'd have to go read War of the Worlds.

I also want Stephen Baxter's The Time Ships, a sequel of The Time Machine authorized by the Wells estate in 1995.


Anyone got copies they want to get rid of?

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Old 18th October 2006, 12:11   #15
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That's pretty cool. I'd love to watch a time-lapse video of the decay.
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I also want Stephen Baxter's The Time Ships, a sequel of The Time Machine authorized by the Wells estate in 1995.

Might have this one still. I'll have to check. It's quite good.
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Old 18th October 2006, 15:15   #17
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I think studies have shown that animals in general are much more resistant to radiation in general than humans. There's all sorts of normal wildlife around Chernobyl now that we can't really go see because of the radiation.
Actually you can
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Old 18th October 2006, 15:52   #18
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An issue of National Geographic from earlier this year (April) has an article on Chernobyl, with a bunch of pics. Kind of erie to see the inside of a school, desks and all, overran by weeds and whatnot.

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/n...re1/index.html

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Now, this leaves us only with the task of elimitating all humans...


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http://science.slashdot.org/article..../10/18/2138247

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Interesting link, mattress. Found it to be one of the most interesting sites I've seen recently.

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yeah that is a pretty cool site. Glad you liked it
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i'm sorry, but anybody who gets within a few thousand MILES of chernobyl is :

1. a complete NUTJOB
2. INSANE
3. has a deathwish, and does not wish to reproduce

now she does make the point that "asphalt does not retain radiation, so it is fairly safe to travel" BUT, come on, i mean how insane do you have to be to subject yourself to radiation, period?

all that said, i know someone has to do it and it may be worth it for scientific reasons, but i'm sorry, i get freaked out if i even get within viewing distance of trojan here in oregon!

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You're not having safe sex?

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huh?

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i get freaked out if i even get within viewing distance of trojan here in oregon!
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i was simply questioning why anyone would relate what i said to safe sex...

i made no mention of sex, safe or otherwise, and stated nothing of my view on the subject..

and yes, i do intend to have kids someday, if that's what you're getting at.

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i was simply questioning why anyone would relate what i said to safe sex...

i made no mention of sex, safe or otherwise, and stated nothing of my view on the subject..

and yes, i do intend to have kids someday, if that's what you're getting at.
I think you've missed the obvious reference here and perhaps have even gotten a little offended. I think an image or two will mend things.





Make more sense now?
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me? offended? nah no way.

and i did notice the reference, i just thought you thought i was saying more than i did.

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Make more sense now?
Is that the kids' size?
Because, I mean......
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i'm sorry, but anybody who gets within a few thousand MILES of chernobyl is :

1. a complete NUTJOB
2. INSANE
3. has a deathwish, and does not wish to reproduce

now she does make the point that "asphalt does not retain radiation, so it is fairly safe to travel" BUT, come on, i mean how insane do you have to be to subject yourself to radiation, period?

all that said, i know someone has to do it and it may be worth it for scientific reasons, but i'm sorry, i get freaked out if i even get within viewing distance of trojan here in oregon!
You're paranoid, seriously.
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