Old 20th March 2003, 22:38   #121
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yes, imainge what wuolda have happened if we had only just driven hitler back.
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Old 20th March 2003, 22:53   #122
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Being driven back is not "paying the price". There were conditions on the cease-fire. He did not meet them. I think we are well within our rights to resume the attacks on Iraq.

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*bump* this thread is popular, onward with the childish debating!
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Old 21st March 2003, 08:15   #124
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Old 21st March 2003, 08:54   #125
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Old 21st March 2003, 09:03   #127
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Old 21st March 2003, 09:03   #128
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People who make fun of the mentally disabled are sick, pathetic individuals.

People who waste their time condemning others for wasting their time are even worse.

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Old 21st March 2003, 09:09   #129
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Old 21st March 2003, 09:11   #130
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Old 21st March 2003, 09:21   #131
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Old 21st March 2003, 11:48   #132
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Bush thinks....that's gotta be the biggest load of bullshit i've heard in my life!
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not only that, but both are doctored in photoshop. the book is a mirror image of the one the girl is reading. clearly fake.
you my friend, have no clue about photoshop

and to reply to curious_george (what a coincidence, he's just like his president ) and that other guy with eminem in his avatar, I would say Sadam had totally the right to invade koweit, since it's not a country, it's just a iraki city ruled by some "prince" protected by the US and populated by immigrants coming from asia.

+ sadam's ruling irak thanks to the US mostly.
shall i remind you that when he used chemical wepons againt iran, he was supported by the US, they gave him those weapons.

one last thing about the scud missiles that were launched yesterday, they werent prohibited missles, UN knew about them.
the prohibited weapons are the Alsamoud missiles, which were being destroyed by the inspectors before george bush had his orgasm.
now irak is using the few missiles that were scheduled to be destroyed by the inspectors and werent because of the US.

US launched their attack now because those missles were being destroyed by the UN, if they waited a bit longer, irak would have had nothing to send over kuwait and the international community would have had a clear proof of how unfair this war is.

more over, those tiny missiles sent over kuwait were normal missiles, they had no checmical or biological war heads.
which shows that US pretext is totally wrong.

if they had a few more weeks to do their job, the inspectors would have destroyed all iraki missiles and US would have no "official" reason to poke their noze in another countrie's business...

now get out of your ignorance, US is not the greatest nation in this world, it's in fact the most dangerous one ruled by nothing else than a brainless extremist.
too bad it happens to be the richest ad most powerful country.
what a pitty for human kind.


PS: I apologize to some US people since their country is far from being populated by idiots only, but right now, they're the ones giving a bad image of that country to the rest of the world.
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Old 21st March 2003, 15:47   #134
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you my friend, have no clue about photoshop

and to reply to curious_george (what a coincidence, he's just like his president ) and that other guy with eminem in his avatar, I would say Sadam had totally the right to invade koweit, since it's not a country, it's just a iraki city ruled by some "prince" protected by the US and populated by immigrants coming from asia.
So The USA isn't a country because it broke away from England. Germany is still considered the Roman Empire and Greece Never, ever existed. Nice logic.
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+ sadam's ruling irak thanks to the US mostly.
shall i remind you that when he used chemical wepons againt iran, he was supported by the US, they gave him those weapons.
PROVE THIS TO ME.
Second, even so, We're going to go take him out. He's our problem, we'll fix him.
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one last thing about the scud missiles that were launched yesterday, they werent prohibited missles, UN knew about them.
the prohibited weapons are the Alsamoud missiles, which were being destroyed by the inspectors before george bush had his orgasm.
now irak is using the few missiles that were scheduled to be destroyed by the inspectors and werent because of the US.
So they did have weapons they weren't supposed to, didn't they.

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US launched their attack now because those missles were being destroyed by the UN, if they waited a bit longer, irak would have had nothing to send over kuwait and the international community would have had a clear proof of how unfair this war is.
Bush attacked Iraq because he was tired of trying to be diplomatic while France vetoed everything that came in front of it's face. It's called patience. It ran out. Saddam had 12 years to get his shit together. One more month was not going to do it.
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more over, those tiny missiles sent over kuwait were normal missiles, they had no checmical or biological war heads.
which shows that US pretext is totally wrong.
Right, but it's perfectly normal to send missles into a country who isn't bowing down to you. Just because they were tiny doesn't change the fact that they're missles.
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if they had a few more weeks to do their job, the inspectors would have destroyed all iraki missiles and US would have no "official" reason to poke their noze in another countrie's business...
The inspectors were being told where they were going. There were no surprises. The missles that are banned are very mobile and could have been easily moved before their arrival. A few weeks of ring around the rosie and who stole the kieshka?
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now get out of your ignorance, US is not the greatest nation in this world, it's in fact the most dangerous one ruled by nothing else than a brainless extremist.
too bad it happens to be the richest ad most powerful country.
what a pitty for human kind.
US has the largest military force in the world. The US's economy is so tied into the worlds that it fluctuates when Alan Greenspan has diarrea. We have invented lightbulbs, bifocals, flight, and the common goals of the world--Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. What has your country done? Don't show your ignorance Adil, just because you buy into all the Hate-America swill people push into your face because you're an impressionable kid.

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Old 21st March 2003, 15:59   #135
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US has the largest military force in the world. The US's economy is so tied into the worlds that it fluctuates when Alan Greenspan has diarrea. We have invented lightbulbs, bifocals, flight, and the common goals of the world--Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. What has your country done? Don't show your ignorance Adil, just because you buy into all the Hate-America swill people push into your face because you're an impressionable kid.
dude, don't get all patriotic like that. you didn't invent life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness. and many of the most important inventions of the last century were made outside of the US. the US is not the be-all and end-all of the world. you have to learn to co-operate with other countries, if you want to make real progress. now, i'm not talking about iraq, i'm talking about people who say "fuck other countries, the US is the best etc. etc., we don't need anyone else" - that's the attitude that leads to hatred, and terrorism.

powered flight was dependant on the combustion engine, was it not? you know where that was invented? not the US...

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Old 21st March 2003, 16:01   #136
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German Engineers, without them, US would have not gone to the moon.

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Old 21st March 2003, 16:03   #137
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yep, and a lot of people think that the US/allies had the est scientists during WW2... well a lot of the most promininent ones were actually people who exiled/ran from the nazis...

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Old 21st March 2003, 17:08   #138
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you my friend, have no clue about photoshop
The one with the book looks doctored. You should be able to see that, if your self-righteous attitude is even partially deserve.

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I would say Sadam had totally the right to invade koweit, since it's not a country, it's just a iraki city ruled by some "prince" protected by the US and populated by immigrants coming from asia.
Kuwait is a country.

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+ sadam's ruling irak thanks to the US mostly.
shall i remind you that when he used chemical wepons againt iran, he was supported by the US, they gave him those weapons.
Blah blah blah. I see the words, but they don't mean anything.

We are not responsible for putting Saddam in power. Let's pretend that we are, though. I would say that gives us every right to remove him from power.

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US launched their attack now because those missles were being destroyed by the UN, if they waited a bit longer, irak would have had nothing to send over kuwait and the international community would have had a clear proof of how unfair this war is.
Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. We attacked because we got a good fix on his location, something we haven't ever really had.

There shouldn't have been any illegal arms left for the UN inspectors to destroy. Saddam didn't disarm in all those years. What makes you think he suddenly changed?

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more over, those tiny missiles sent over kuwait were normal missiles, they had no checmical or biological war heads.
which shows that US pretext is totally wrong.
No it doesn't. What the hell kind of logic is that? By that logic, we must not have any more atomic bombs, since we haven't launched them.

Do you even think at all before you post?

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if they had a few more weeks to do their job, the inspectors would have destroyed all iraki missiles and US would have no "official" reason to poke their noze in another countrie's business...
YEARS YEARS YEARS YEARS YEARS

Saddam has already had years to disarm. There should be nothing left to disarm. How fucking naive are all of you, that you honestly think the man has suddenly decided to fully disarm?

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now get out of your ignorance, US is not the greatest nation in this world
Yes it is.

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it's in fact the most dangerous one ruled by nothing else than a brainless extremist.
Bush is a brainless extremist? But you support Saddam?

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too bad it happens to be the richest ad most powerful country.
Two of the reasons that the US is the greatest nation.

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what a pitty for human kind.
Sure, because we all know that the other super-powers throughout history were more benevolent.

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. . . many of the most important inventions of the last century were made outside of the US.
Quite true.

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the US is not the be-all and end-all of the world.
Also somewhat true.

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you have to learn to co-operate with other countries, if you want to make real progress. now, i'm not talking about iraq, i'm talking about people who say "fuck other countries, the US is the best etc. etc., we don't need anyone else" - that's the attitude that leads to hatred, and terrorism.
You guys should consider taking your own advice. I see a lot more "fuck America" from the rest of the world than I see "fuck other countries" coming from the US.

But we are the best, in every way I can concieve. If that bothers you, maybe it's a problem you have with you're country. I see no reason why I shouldn't consider America to be the best.

I'm not saying that we don't need anyone else, though. We depend on the rest of the world, just as it depends on us.

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powered flight was dependant on the combustion engine, was it not? you know where that was invented? not the US...
You know where flight first succeeded, though?

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yep, and a lot of people think that the US/allies had the est scientists during WW2... well a lot of the most promininent ones were actually people who exiled/ran from the nazis...
Indeed. Einstein was Jewish.

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Or were natzis.
What the hell are you talking about now?

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Old 21st March 2003, 18:08   #140
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You guys should consider taking your own advice. I see a lot more "fuck America" from the rest of the world than I see "fuck other countries" coming from the US.

But we are the best, in every way I can concieve. If that bothers you, maybe it's a problem you have with you're country. I see no reason why I shouldn't consider America to be the best.
the reason is this: once you consider America as the "best" country, you begin to consider other countries as "inferior". the US isn't the "best" country, simply because to have a single "best" country is a horrifically flawed conception. i don't have a problem with my country, i don't have a serious problem with the US either (its government and i don't always agree, but hey, freedom of speech - right? at least the people can have opinions). it is my opinion that to choose a "best" country is an act of ignorance on a grand scale.

being rich and powerful are not all there are. what about diplomacy? what about accountability? what about misuse of power? no country can win out on all counts. even comparing many things is impossible.

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What the hell are you talking about now?
Many of the scientists could have been prosecuted at the Nuremburg trials but instead they recieved refuge in the US in exchange for their work into rocket science that got the US into space. It's not exacly an unknown fact.

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I believe that the US is the greatest. I consider it to be national pride.

I also believe that it's perfectly normal, and perhaps even good, to consider one's own country to be the greatest, so long as you understand that others are fully entitled to consider their countries to be the greatest.

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Many of the scientists could have been prosecuted at the Nuremburg trials but instead they recieved refuge in the US in exchange for their work into rocket science that got the US into space. It's not exacly an unknown fact.
I can't really say if that's true or not. You may be right. I thought you were saying that we (knowingly) had Nazis working for us during WWII, though.

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I also believe that it's perfectly normal, and perhaps even good, to consider one's own country to be the greatest, so long as you understand that others are fully entitled to consider their countries to be the greatest.
i'll concede that

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I can't really say if that's true or not. You may be right. I thought you were saying that we (knowingly) had Nazis working for us during WWII, though.
that's what i thought, too. it was a confusing place to have posted it.

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time to disspel some rumours about bush...

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm
http://www.snopes.com/photos/bushbook.asp
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and scotland owns you :P
Nu-uh.

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http://www.snopes.com/photos/bushbook.asp
This is where I'm going to be childish:
Adil, you're an asshole for being so damned arrogant, and a jackass for being wrong.

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thnx curi0us_george. and might i add...

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Soundgarden - Superunknown - 4th Of July


Shower in the dark day
Clean sparks driving down
Cool in the waterway
Where the baptized drown
Naked in the cold sun
Breathing life like fire
Thought I was the only one
But that was just a lie

Cause I heard it in the wind
And I saw it in the sky
And I thought it was the end
And I thought it was the 4th of July

Pale in the flare light
The scared light cracks & disappears
And leads the scorched ones here
And everywhere no one cares
The fire is spreading
And no one wants to speak about it
Down in the hole
Jesus tries to crack a smile
Beneath another shovel load

And I heard it in the wind
And I saw it in the sky
And I thought it was the end
And I thought it was the 4th of July

Now I'm in control
Now I'm in the fall out
Once asleep but now I stand
And I still remember
Your sweet everything
Light a Roman candle
And hold it in your hand

Cause I heard it in the wind
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that is indeed a damn good song, webthing.

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not only that, but both are doctored in photoshop. the book is a mirror image of the one the girl is reading. clearly fake.
ok, that pic is a fake, but what you said is that it's a mirror of the book the girl is holding, which is not possible to do on photoshop.
and honestly, I really have no time to waste reading that page explaining how they reversed the book in the rpesident's hands... anyone with the original pic could do that, but i never seen the original before

I wouldnt call US the best country in this word with all the guns and criminality in your streets. not mentioning the greediness of your society where a guy would be left dying in the street just cause he has no insurance or social security.

cgeorge, all you said earlier after quoting me was pretty dumb and doesnt deserve a serious reply from me.
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ok, that pic is a fake, but what you said is that it's a mirror of the book the girl is holding, which is not possible to do on photoshop.
and honestly, I really have no time to waste reading that page explaining how they reversed the book in the rpesident's hands... anyone with the original pic could do that, but i never seen the original before
the point was that it was an obvious fake, because they failed to properly reverse it, and so ended up with a mirror image.

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cgeorge, all you said earlier after quoting me was pretty dumb and doesnt deserve a serious reply from me.
no, it wasn't.

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to mirror: edit>>transform>>flip horizontally.

lookie what i did with a random picture from images.google.com

left is the origonal
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dlinkwit27, dont be ridiculous and read carefully what I said earlier.
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This is where I'm going to be childish:
Adil, you're an asshole for being so damned arrogant, and a jackass for being wrong.
Excercise restraint.... (both sides)
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yea, u said NOT possible to mirror, and it is.
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Old 22nd March 2003, 22:28   #157
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heh, i dont remember who it was, but someone here said that iraq was disarmed...

how right you were! so now that you know iraq hasn't disarmed, are you pro war?
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ok, that pic is a fake, but what you said is that it's a mirror of the book the girl is holding, which is not possible to do on photoshop.
dlinkwit27 explained how to do just that.

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and honestly, I really have no time to waste reading that page explaining how they reversed the book in the rpesident's hands... anyone with the original pic could do that, but i never seen the original before
Translation: "I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it"

You said that you are a "graphics guy", and you said that there were no signs of doctoring. You were wrong. The changes were apparent, and sloppily done, but you on your hgh horse didn't want to admit it. Now you've been proven wrong. The changes to that picture could have been done in photoshop, and probably were.

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I wouldnt call US the best country in this word with all the guns and criminality in your streets. not mentioning the greediness of your society where a guy would be left dying in the street just cause he has no insurance or social security.
I don't believe that the crime rate in in America is that much higher than that of Europe. And guns are an entirely different debate. But I suppose you like having your rights taken away.

A man would not be left dying in the street. Hospitals are required to treat people who need emergency treatment.

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cgeorge, all you said earlier after quoting me was pretty dumb and doesnt deserve a serious reply from me.
Fine by me. But if you're going to be arrogant and condescending, you should at least make sure you're right.

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Old 23rd March 2003, 10:58   #159
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ok, that pic is a fake, but what you said is that it's a mirror of the book the girl is holding, which is not possible to do on photoshop.
ok, you guys are either too dumb to read carefully or you're not even trying.
I said the GIRL'S BOOK is impossible to mirror in a way to be in bush's hands.
I AM RIGHT about that point.

The mirror has been done with the original book that was in the president's hands, NOT THE GIRL'S.

do you understand english?
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Old 23rd March 2003, 11:06   #160
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I don't believe that the crime rate in in America is that much higher than that of Europe. And guns are an entirely different debate. But I suppose you like having your rights taken away.
That's a good example of curi0us nonsense.

crime rate in the US is far higher than anywhere else in the world (expet maybe south africa and some canibal countries...)
In LAwhen some latino wants to steel your money, he doesnt even say bienos dias, it's just BANG and you're dead in the street...
5 minutes later you're not only lying dead in the street, but you're also naked, the kids stole your clothes
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