Old 11th September 2005, 12:41   #41
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I've got a question.
There's lots of girls who like it in da butt so why do "homosexuals" prefer a hairy ass instead?

How can I approve or even accept that which I do not understand/doesn't make sense to a near genius?
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Old 11th September 2005, 18:19   #42
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I've got a question.
There's lots of girls who like it in da butt so why do "homosexuals" prefer a hairy ass instead?
ah so if two married heteros engage in anal sex it's just fine and dandy.

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I went to the funeral of my neighbor, who died of AIDS, because he was gay.
as has been said, being gay doesnt necessarily mean youre wantonly promiscuous or dont practise safe sex. tho i think now youre probably just being gratuitously provocative by alluding that everyone who disagrees with you IS gay rather than just defending a minority. how constructive.

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Old 11th September 2005, 19:08   #43
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ah so if two married heteros engage in anal sex it's just fine and dandy.
Whut?
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Old 11th September 2005, 20:04   #44
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as has been said, being gay doesnt necessarily mean youre wantonly promiscuous or dont practise safe sex.
This is my experience. Homosexual men tend to be quite promiscuous. At least I haven't met one that wasn't. I haven't known that many lesbians, but the ones I have met were "man haters".

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everyone who disagrees with you IS gay rather than just defending a minority. how constructive.
And anyone that doesn't agree with the liberal horseshit has "anger issues" and needs counseling.

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ah so if two married heteros engage in anal sex it's just fine and dandy.
Ridin' the "hershey hiway" is Yuck.

Did you read the CDC report?. 1% of our population is gay, and we see a 50% increase in syphillis among men in general. Mostly among gays and bisexuals.

I think we can toss the "not promiscuous" and "safe sex" arguments.

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i preferred the "hershey highway" reference...tho i wouldn't have said your chocolate's that bad
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Old 11th September 2005, 20:26   #46
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I don't mind conservative/right-wing arguments, when they are not presented in the form of a rant.

I also think rockouthippie rode the highway and came out with a very muddy vehicle, which put him off the concept.




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I don't mind conservative/right-wing arguments, when they are not presented in the form of a rant.

I also think rockouthippie rode the highway and came out with a very muddy vehicle, which put him off the concept.
There isn't much I haven't tried.

OK, I'll rant and you can go be gay.

Fair enough.

BTW, I am a moderate. If I was a conservative, you'd get that response, which would be that gayness should be banned outright.

Like I said, I'm not going that far.
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Old 11th September 2005, 20:59   #48
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[B]This is my experience. Homosexual men tend to be quite promiscuous.

Did you read the CDC report?. 1% of our population is gay, and we see a 50% increase in syphillis among men in general. Mostly among gays and bisexuals.
who is to say its not men sleeping with whores. and how broad is your experience? every gay man i know is monogamous. of course i dont live in california where all the gays hang out...
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I think rockouthippeeeee needs to calm down.
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Old 11th September 2005, 21:32   #51
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who is to say its not men sleeping with whores. and how broad is your experience? every gay man i know is monogamous. of course i dont live in california where all the gays hang out...
Look at the CDC report.

A homosexual lifestyle never seemed to be a happy one to me. You make yourself a social outcast.

Like lemmings tossing themselves into the sea.

You want acceptance, you have it. You want approval, like that I'm supposed to call perversion "marriage"..

Not a chance. Experience tells me this is a hurtful lifestyle.

The "mythical" idealist gay relationship, hasn't ever been what I've seen.

A Navy leitman, with his skin falling off and dying a miserable death hits a little closer.

Perhaps it gives me a different perspective.

Pardon me for having feelings.
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Your feelings crossed into full on homophobia when you described it as "perversion".




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Old 11th September 2005, 22:19   #53
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what's your social life got to do with anything?
Kinda strange that a person who thinks a chocolate covered sausage in a mouth is ok but porn isn't?

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Alright, alright, don't get ya knickers in a knot! Personally, I'd like to see all HARDCORE porn streams banned, but that's just my opinion so let's not get started on that old chestnut.
Strange. Do you have something against normal hetersexual people having sex?

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I'm sorry that I didn't make myself fully clear. Let me elaborate.

Homosexuality is perversion. I'm sorry. They can go bang a dog for all I care, but I'm not gonna call it "marriage".

That doesn't mean I'm gonna take rights away from anyone.

Homophobia?. I am certainly not afraid of homosexuals.

Just don't ask me to call a skunk a flower.
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Old 11th September 2005, 22:45   #55
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http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/2003Sur...ort/table1.htm

According to the CDC the number of people who contracted/were diagnosed with AIDS:

14,532 were Male To Male Contact
3,189 from Injection Drug Use
4,041 were from Heterosexual Sex

Gee, the rate of AIDS iinfections is THREE TIMES that of straight people and double that of both straight people and needle pushers combined.

Doesn't that tell you a thing? It tells me if you're gay you clearly and statistically have a greater chance of being infected with AIDS. A much greater chance.

Dispute it all you want, the facts are the facts and the numbers are very clear.

Maybe text isn't clear enough. How about an image:


The VERY LARGE white area are people infected with AIDS because of Man On Man Sexual contact. The very small grey area up top are those who got AIDS from heterosexual contact. It's very likely a portion of that was because of bi-sexual contact unknown by the other partner as well.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/PUBS/Facts/msm.htm
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STDs, which increase the risk for HIV infection, remain an issue for MSM. According to the Gonococcal Isolate Surveillance Project, the proportion of positive test results for gonorrhea among MSM increased from 4% in 1988 to 19.6% in 2003 [6]. Rates of syphilis among MSM have increased in some urban areas, including San Francisco, Chicago, New York, and Seattle [7,8,9]. In the 9 US. cities participating in the MSM Prevalence Monitoring Project, STDs and HIV positivity varied by race and ethnicity but tended to be highest among African American MSM [6]. In addition to increasing susceptibility to HIV, STDs are markers for high-risk sexual practices that can transmit HIV, making increases in STD rates a cause for concern
Get it now? If not re-read the article and tell me how many times you read the words 'risky sexual behavior between MSM's'. So much for that reality.

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Old 11th September 2005, 23:20   #56
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Then multiply by about 5 for syphillis.

I can give you numbers.

And a dead gay guy that I was a friend to.

Did we figure out that being gay isn't such a great idea?.
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Old 11th September 2005, 23:33   #57
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nice to see youve not lost your sense of humour, meggy baby

been digging around have we?...

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Kinda strange that a person who thinks a chocolate covered sausage in a mouth is ok but porn isn't?
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Personally, I'd like to see all HARDCORE porn streams banned, but that's just my opinion so let's not get started on that old chestnut.
Strange. Do you have something against normal hetersexual people having sex?
not remotely. ive got something against porn being available thru winamp but that's a completely different issue.
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Old 11th September 2005, 23:35   #58
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What else do you have to look forward to if you are repulsed by women?
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Old 11th September 2005, 23:40   #59
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not remotely. ive got something against porn being available thru winamp but that's a completely different issue.
Don't get me started again.

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Old 11th September 2005, 23:43   #60
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I've got a problem with other guys banging big titted woman but I'm not going around asking for special rights.
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What else do you have to look forward to if you are repulsed by women?
Death from AIDS.

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Old 12th September 2005, 00:09   #62
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in 10 yrs people wont die from aids, and currently life is dramatically extended for those that can afford it...drugs are expensive.

rockout...Im sorry about your friend. it doenst sound like your homophobic, it sounds like youre resentful and would place him in unknown harms way he(and therefore all gay men) was gay in the first place.
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Old 12th September 2005, 00:38   #63
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I'm not a homophobe.
I employed/inherited an ******dly gay chef at the resort restaurant I used to manage. The guy could cook but he was hungover and stole booze from the bar all the time.
He had rainbow stickers all over his car and flaunted his sexuality everywhere he could.
The final straw was when he and his "life partner", after I had left the place, were caught cooking during full onslaught (spring break) NAKED!
I've never eaten there since or wanted anything to do with he or the place.

LMAO@0utward being a banned word
Hence the ****** crap.
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Old 12th September 2005, 03:23   #64
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Maybe I'm just tired of going to funerals for friends that drank, or drugged or gayed themselves to death.

Liberalism in it's finest hour.

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Old 12th September 2005, 03:57   #65
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http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/2003Sur...ort/table1.htm

According to the CDC the number of people who contracted/were diagnosed with AIDS:

14,532 were Male To Male Contact
3,189 from Injection Drug Use
4,041 were from Heterosexual Sex

Gee, the rate of AIDS iinfections is THREE TIMES that of straight people and double that of both straight people and needle pushers combined.

Doesn't that tell you a thing? It tells me if you're gay you clearly and statistically have a greater chance of being infected with AIDS. A much greater chance.

Dispute it all you want, the facts are the facts and the numbers are very clear.

Maybe text isn't clear enough. How about an image:

[Image]
The VERY LARGE white area are people infected with AIDS because of Man On Man Sexual contact. The very small grey area up top are those who got AIDS from heterosexual contact. It's very likely a portion of that was because of bi-sexual contact unknown by the other partner as well.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/PUBS/Facts/msm.htm

Get it now? If not re-read the article and tell me how many times you read the words 'risky sexual behavior between MSM's'. So much for that reality.

What does that have to do with gay marrage?

IF they are married or "unioned", that means less likely of a spread of STDs to others. Besides, the sex is not the problem but the prevention of the disease being carried to another person.

If those men were all of a sudden go hetero, then the chart would expand to the other groups. Men in general are LESS likely to go to the doctor and get a checkup than women. Simply for the fact that women are usually REQUIRED to go in order to prevent different cancers and such.

I'll say it again:

The government has NO PLACE in deciding who can get married and who cant. That is supposed to be left up to the religious communities. Next thing you know, they are going to try to ban Buhiddist marrages because it wasn't done in a christian manner.
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I'll say it again:

The government has NO PLACE in deciding who can get married and who cant. That is supposed to be left up to the religious communities. Next thing you know, they are going to try to ban Buhiddist marrages because it wasn't done in a christian manner.
The government says it's fine and dandy.

WE THE PEOPLE SAID NO!. By a wide margin.

A marriage is between a man and a woman. We can screw that up too, but these are the facts. Been that way for countless centuries.

Live with it.

NO means NO.

Can I adjust the volume controls to 640 watts and yell NO until you are deaf, smoked wreckage?.

NO is what most of us think. NO is a good choice. And NO is where you are likely to find most people standing.

I wonder, did I say NO enough?.

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I'm smart enough to know that my dick goes in the little pink hole as are the rest of us smart enough to know that therefore we resoundingly say............you guessed it.......







NO!
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Old 12th September 2005, 13:42   #68
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It'll change eventually when culture evolves to the point where people realise how ignorant a "no" vote is.

People can't stay stupid forever.

As for the AIDS thing, that's a terrible argument. You'll be throwing black people in prison by default because they're statistically more likely to be involved in crime next.

Edit: Changed "banging up" to "throwing" since I don't know if that expression exists in non-English English and it could quite easily be misinterpreted.

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Or when it evolves enough that people can keep their pants on.
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it would be interresting to compare the divorce rate (and other related statistics) in the US to those of Holland, Belgium, and Spain where gay marriage is legal, too counter argue that Gay marriage undermines the institution of marriage.

but i can't seem to find it, anyone got any idea where to look?
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I think you've seen the thread I wrote about that now.

Stupid advertisers.

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it would be interresting to compare the divorce rate (and other related statistics) in the US to those of Holland, Belgium, and Spain where gay marriage is legal, too counter argue that Gay marriage undermines the institution of marriage.

but i can't seem to find it, anyone got any idea where to look?
Google:
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...685059,00.html

Big suprise anyone? The numbers are just as high.

Every civilization since the beginning of man has recognized the need for marriage. This country and healthy societies around the world give marriage special legal protection for a vital reason — it is the institution that ensures the society's future through the upbringing of children. Furthermore, it's just common sense that marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

There is an ocean of data showing that the union between a man and a woman has unique benefits for children and society. Moreover, traditional family breakdown is the single biggest social problem in America today. In study after study, family breakdown is linked to an increase in violent crime, youth crime, teen pregnancy, welfare dependency and child poverty.

Marriage has already been weakened. The out-of-wedlock childbirth rate is at a historically high level, while the divorce rate remains unacceptably high. Legalization of gay marriage would further undermine an institution that is essential to the well-being of children and our society. Do we need to confuse future generations of Americans even more about the role and importance of an institution that is so critical to the stability of our country?

And remember one thing - if being gay is so natural then how come men and men/women and women cannot bear children without involvement from the other sex? A dildo will not create a child for two lesbian women and a feces covered penis will not create a child for another man. God made it that way for a reason and maybe once all the immoral dillholes figure that out they will figure out what the majority of our country people already know - it's wrong.

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You'll be throwing black people in prison by default because they're statistically more likely to be involved in crime next.
By default, no. They've been doing a good enough job of putting themselves in jail that we don't have to worry about defaults. Locally 85% of all crimes involve one race. Wanna guess which one?

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The government says it's fine and dandy.

WE THE PEOPLE SAID NO!. By a wide margin.

A marriage is between a man and a woman. We can screw that up too, but these are the facts. Been that way for countless centuries.

Live with it.

NO means NO.

Can I adjust the volume controls to 640 watts and yell NO until you are deaf, smoked wreckage?.

NO is what most of us think. NO is a good choice. And NO is where you are likely to find most people standing.

I wonder, did I say NO enough?.

Do you understand what you are saying? Yes you said no. A lot of people said no. But If Califorina says no during a vote, then I don't have a problem. Though, there is a conflict of interest when people approach this matter.

A lot of people also said yes, though it won't stop them if you said no either. Confusing enough?

So let me restate it ONE MORE TIME, Government does not have the fundamental ability to turn this down. Even if it was put to a vote, it IS going to come up again and again until someone makes the decision to make it legal in a court of law.

Call it Marrage or or Civil Union, I really don't care. But the Government will have no choice but to allow it. Why? because everytime this comes up the "Religion vs Law" issue will come up everytime. The same conflict of interest will come up again and eventually sent to the Supreme Court. You can say NO until you are blue in the face, but this isn't gonna go away until the laws realign with the Constitution.
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Do you understand what you are saying? Yes you said no. A lot of people said no. But If Califorina says no during a vote, then I don't have a problem.
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legislation would conflict with the intent of voters when they approved an initiative five years ago that prevents California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.
California DID say no during a vote.

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because everytime this comes up the "Religion vs Law" issue will come up everytime. The same conflict of interest will come up again and eventually sent to the Supreme Court. You can say NO until you are blue in the face, but this isn't gonna go away until the laws realign with the Constitution.
If this is true then it should never become law. Churches have said they do not recognize gay marriages, period. If the Constitution were to be recognized here that 'seperation of Church and State' should also be acknowledged which means the State cannot force the Church to recognize something it does not. Therefore if the Church does not recognize 'gay marriage' then that should be the end of it - and the Church don't recognize it. The State Legislatures and the Supreme Court have no place trying to dictate Church policy and that is what the gays are trying to force them to do.

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California did say NO!. Their legislature is trying to reverse that. Here in Oregon, it was some county commissioners that tried to make law, by allowing gay marriage.

Finally, all of the "marriages" were invalidated and the money refunded.

It's bad enough that in our liberal society that men and women can't keep the vow they made when they got married.... and keep their pants on.

I always wondered if the liberals of 40 or 50 years ago, knowing that their theories would have led to rampant illegitimacy, crime and disease would have shut up.

Many things in our society no longer have a social stigma, AND THEY SHOULD.

When you don't respect the traditions of humanity, things go to hell in a hand basket.

That means, get married, stay married, raise your kids and keep your pants ON!. Not the new version, get married, bang the mailman, teach your kids liberal crap, so you can justify your misdeeds. What happens?. They come out even more rotten than you.

It's hard to trust anything, because their is no social norm.

If it itches scratch....right?.

Perhaps we could restore the concepts of loyalty, honesty, dignity and righteousness. Things liberals don't understand.

These are concepts that have been our tradition as humans, and lost in a sea of the putrid stench we call liberalism.

I often feel like a dinosaur, because I do have values. I can keep my pants ON!. A belt works nicely.
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It'll change eventually when culture evolves to the point where people realise how ignorant a "no" vote is.

People can't stay stupid forever.
Why are people who don't agree with your opinion "ignorant" and "stupid"?
Can't you win an argument without calling names?
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Or in need of "anger management" and liberal wishy washy social workers?.
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We the people.
If that's not plain enough for you, it's time to find a new country to live in. I hear Lesbianna and Gaythiopia have plenty of room.
Think I'm talking about a fantasy world?
Exactly where you're living if you think a gay lifestyle will ever be accepted by the real world dwellers.
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I'm just glad the people who are getting so angry at this are a hell of a lot older than me, so at least your views won't affect anything when my peers get in power.




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