Old 27th July 2019, 18:52   #1
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Playback stops on files without extension

On Windows 7 and with Winamp 5.666, it used to be like this: I could have in a folder audio files and among them notes in form of files without file extension. Because if I would load all of them to Winamp, they would appear on the Playlist, but would be skipped on the account of being in an audio format that Winamp recognizes

On Windows 10 and with Winamp 5.8, it is now like this: the playback stops when encounters such file. Also changing such extension-less files to e.g. TXT format does not help; because the Playlist loads them up, displays them- but not being able to play them chooses to come to a still. And that is just annoying and disrupting the flow of music / work



Why would the user want to have the playback stopped? Does the playback stops when a legit audio file that is on the Playlist but also happens to be absent from its location [because it was deleted or renamed]? The old behavior was user friendly, the new one is not. If anything, the second one could be turned into an option, but surely with the first being the default behavior
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Old 29th July 2019, 21:43   #2
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not sure this is a bug. maybe, depending on POV, it is undesired behavior. but isn't the real solution here to fix the garbage? after all, garbage in, garbage out.

personally, i want winamp to somehow alert me or display to me if an audio file is missing from its location, missing an extension, or has a mislabeled extension. should it stop playing? probably not. but if it does, its at least a way for you to know something is wrong.

in a different thread, i suggested the ML have a column where it displayed a character to alert the user IF there was something wrong between whats scanned/in the actual string, and whats in the file header for the file's contents.

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Old 6th August 2019, 21:18   #3
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not sure this is a bug. maybe, depending on POV, it is undesired behavior. but isn't the real solution here to fix the garbage? after all, garbage in, garbage out.
For me this is not garbage

I make notes in folders, and not only with these containing audio files. My modus oprandi relies on them- on that that:

1] they exist

2] they have a distinct white icon because they are associated with any software - which makes them stand out in a crowd

3] they do not interfere in a significant way with software that I use


That last is a problem. Up till now it was only in regards to Mp3tag [do not read this if you are not an avid user of it: https://community.mp3tag.de/t/files-...ndition/46100]. But now it is also with Winamp- which is worse, because with Mp3tag it is "just" a drag, but with Winamp it literally blocks me from doing certain things. I either cannot execute them or have to create workaround- and those workarounds are garbage for me, which be piling up and leading to errors


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personally, i want winamp to somehow alert me or display to me if an audio file is missing from its location, missing an extension, or has a mislabeled extension.
I can see how somebody can use that as a basis for their modus operandi


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should it stop playing? probably not. but if it does, its at least a way for you to know something is wrong.
If it is not a bug then then it could and should be defined in Preferences. On my previous set up I was pleased - but you would be displeased
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Old 7th August 2019, 16:59   #4
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On the page of Playlist options in Winamp Preferences is an option for designating the extension Winamp will use for unknown files. It is set to mp3 by default. If the unknown file format is not compatible with the designated extension, Winamp will not be able to try to handle it.

Winamp uses a file's extension (if it has one) to select the input plug-in used to handle the file. Winamp currently does not read a file's header in order to select the appropriate input plug-in for the file. If the file's extension does not match the format the file is using or the implied input plug-in is not installed, then Winamp will not be able to try to handle the file.

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Old 25th August 2019, 19:47   #5
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I just notice something in regards to what MrSinatra said about Winamp informing about missing files


If I have on a playlist such extension-less file but remove it from the drive before it gets played, then what happens? Winamp simply skips it. So a theory stating that Winamp stops at such files because it is suppose to signal in that way a missing file is plain wrong. And that is because also this happens with every other removed file- it gets skipped. That is except for e.g. TTA, because the plugin governing playback of that format [TTA Audio Decoder 3.5] spits an error box for a missing file


And so we have now a duality: Winamp allows plugins to decide what to do with missing files- but when it is a file not associated with a plugin then it takes control over it and by default [in version 5.8 on Windows 10] decides to stop playback. For me personally this is ridiculous approach- especially that it was not like it in 5.666 on Windows 7
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