Old 11th September 2013, 21:02   #1
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No flash players work for me

I've been using Legacy (v1) ShoutCAST for a while now, and all of a sudden no flash players seem to play any music. I thought, okay, everything must be updated so it doesnt support v1 anymore, so I updated my ShoutCAST server to v2 and the players still don't work. I have tried over 10 different ShoutCAST Players such as Wavestreaming, mixstream, and many more. I'm 100% certain I've entered the details correctly into all of them (seeing as Wavestreaming only asks for and IP and Port). Some help would be appreciated. Many thanks!

EDIT: If someone could simply link me to a .swf file (hosted or downloadable) where I can just change the link to the listen.pls file (e.g: http://www.example.com/player.swf?=h...00/listen.pls/) that would be appreciated and more than likely to work!

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Old 11th September 2013, 21:46   #2
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Could it be a (your) browser problem..
ie: not all browsers support flash with mp3
ie: does this occur in al browsers ? (IE,FF,Chrome)

I dont think the problem is on the radio-side
but on the listener-side (you) ...how about others
are they complaining also ?
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Old 11th September 2013, 21:59   #3
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Could it be a (your) browser problem..
ie: not all browsers support flash with mp3
ie: does this occur in al browsers ? (IE,FF,Chrome)

I dont think the problem is on the radio-side
but on the listener-side (you) ...how about others
are they complaining also ?
Hi, yes it doesn't work with anyone. Sorry should've mentioned that in the first post. I also tried it in all 3 browsers I have installed (IE/FF/Ch)

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Old 12th September 2013, 13:48   #4
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Terrum if you post the IP / Port # I can make you a player using the JWPlayer http://www.longtailvideo.com/ which now works with SHOUTcast --- if it's SHOUTcast 2 I can make the eq lights work!

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Old 12th September 2013, 22:44   #5
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JWplayer will now work with shoutcast streams ?
last time i looked at it (4 mnths ago) it would work
but only with the help of another external CDN-server.
which was a reason to not further look at it.
cause i prefer to have as less as possible others involved.

1)
Can you point me to where i can see confirmation of
it now not needing any external cdn-service ?

2)

Can it now also be styled to look like a stream-player ?
ie: we dont need the [progress-bar] and a [next], [prev] button.

3)

If above is indeed ok now ... can i see that "eq-lights working" somewhere ?
why will they only work on sc v.2 ?

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Old 13th September 2013, 00:58   #6
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Chrome, IE 9, IE 10, Opera, Chrome.... Just about anything but Android...

<audio src="http://retrovision.tv:8000/test.mp3" type="audio/mp3" controls></audio>

Screw flash. Html5! Mediaelement.js can skin it if you want. I wasn't very artistic here, but you can get the idea:

http://goo.gl/DQDDvA

It is possible to hide the progress bar etc.... I wasn't that picky. Or you could hide the player and implement your own javascript controls.

Flash is dead.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.85).aspx
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Old 13th September 2013, 17:15   #7
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Maybe..but since your stream dont work in FF
you still need Flash for that.

ha ha ...i´m shure you forgot to mention that browser by accident

So you need a dual-mode player (Flash/HTML5)
such a s Jplayer (or Jwplayer if it works..not convinced yet).
For absolute multi-device and ,multi-browser compatibility

Or alternatively have a 2nd (Ogg) stream (for FF)
and a browser-sniffer with redirect.

Or things have changed recently that i´m not aware of yet



Honestly a embedded player looks nice
but a direct link (in addition) to your stream is a must,
that will not use any browser and open the stream in
your listeners own desktop/device player (Winamp.Wmp.iTunes ...etc)

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Old 15th September 2013, 04:03   #8
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THREE BIGGEST ISSUES WITH FLASH PLAYERS:

1) DONT- use an intro file on the server. Write it into the flash player itself. Better anyways, as you can use it as a buffer.

2) CHECK- your encoder type. Different types of MP3. When in doubt, go lame.

3) CHECK- Output of flash player in source. Never enter stuff and expect it to work perfect. Always check that you dont have a double "::" in there thanks to auto field settings.


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but since your stream dont work in FF
Firefox is a piece of shit. Who cares? It's the only browser left that will force you to use flash because it's inept. Worse, they never even made the open source stuff they were so religious about actually work.

Out of time and out of gas, a few months ago, they started moving to features people and webmasters wanted. This leaves them 2 or 3 years behind state of the art.

Hell! Microsoft makes a better browser! That's about enough to make me fall over.
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Yes it might be "a piece of shit"
and other browsers might have characteristics
that make them "shit" also...i can agree with that.

But what are you gonna do ?
If possible listeners with FF cant hear you
then they go somewhere else.

If you think you can change/force FF-development-politics
by not having your stream available in FF
then...keep dreaming and waiting.

Research shows that visitors spend on average max 20 secs
to decide if they stay...so its a choice you have as designer.
I´d rather try and be available for all.

So if you´re looking to supply to a max number of listeners
then you need dual-mode (Flash/HTML5) right now.

Still you should als provide direct links to the stream
that will open in a user´s own desktop-player.
That is to avoid they close your page (with player) accidently
while browsing...and give them more options for better sound also.

You need to think from your visitor´s point of view
and not from your own point of view.

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