How to play a "protected" CD??

jebg · 8th September 2002, 21:34

Hej,

I don't know if you have the same problem out there. But a lot of CDs today cannot be played on a PC. Only on the CD-player attached to the big HiFi equipment. Is it possible to use such a CD in a PC? Anyone who knows??

Yours

Benny

Bilbo Baggins · 8th September 2002, 21:36

Draw on the outside track with a black marker pen.

I am Jesus · 8th September 2002, 21:40

take off the condom

jebg · 8th September 2002, 21:43

Yes, I've heard about that... that would be in the very inner ring. But what about CDs you borrow from friends? Isn't there a program or two who fools this protection??

ctn|chrisw · 8th September 2002, 21:45

I think you have to make a cd image or sumptin

Xion(810) · 8th September 2002, 21:50

Start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>CD Player

Ta-da.

jebg · 8th September 2002, 21:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Xion(810)
Start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>CD Player

Ta-da.

That would be conveniant but the computer doesn't even notice there's a CD in the tray....

baafie · 8th September 2002, 22:00

Quote:

Originally posted by jebg
Yes, I've heard about that... that would be in the very inner ring. But what about CDs you borrow from friends? Isn't there a program or two who fools this protection??

The protection is based upon hardware, not software.

CraigF · 8th September 2002, 22:01

dont buy them, then the record company get the message.

more often than not, you can return the record and get a nonprotected one in return.

james · 8th September 2002, 22:08

I have a serious question here.

How is it that this subject is allowed (circumventing copy protection) whereas an earlier thread about saving Shoutcast streams mysteriously disappeared...

CraigF · 8th September 2002, 23:20

because he legally purchased a cd that he cannot play due to that?

I suppose it still breaks the over media zelous DMCA even talking about a black marker.

"mommy, when i grow up i want to be in charge of a giant industry and buy out the governments and make them write law for me."

I am Jesus · 8th September 2002, 23:51

Quote:

Originally posted by baafie

The protection is based upon hardware, not software.

Yeah, Just like I mentioned above

whiteflip · 8th September 2002, 23:55

dont buy it. if you buy it return it. if it says CDDA and has that copy protection on it then sue for mislabeling a product and/or false advertising.

dirkdeftly · 9th September 2002, 01:58

Whiteflip: That's a smart move, let's spend thousands of dollars on suing a company over a $16 item that won't play in our computer. Jeez...

QHOBBES · 9th September 2002, 02:50

Here's what you do: buy a copy protected cd. Now right after you buy
head over to customer service thing and tell them you want to return
because you don't agree with the liscening terms (good way to get free
software/games, but almost all RIAA cds have the same liscening terms,
so it's assumed you will follow them if you open the package), and
wish to return it. Just keep doing this the entire day until all the
copy protected cds are off the shelf. btw they will find this
extremely annoying since it usually is a longer process to return
something than to buy it, so bring some friends so they never have any
down time.

Bop · 9th September 2002, 04:33

OR you could just use you a standard stereo...

liquidmotion · 9th September 2002, 05:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Boplicity
OR you could just use you a standard stereo...

i like the way this guy thinks!

Bop for mod!

whiteflip · 9th September 2002, 09:05

what about people who put thousands of songs on their computer and wire them into a "Standard Stereo"??? hmmm. I only have 1/3/5/6/10 disc changers hooked up. Thats only a total of 25 CD's! plus i would have to switch the input on the receiver!

so much easier to build a network playlist put it on winamp 2.81 turn on repeat and shuffle and eq off put the lid down and turn the volume up.

Kudoz7 · 9th September 2002, 09:18

put the cd in a hifi and use a line out...or if you are lucky enough..a digital optical connector and rip the SOB to MP3 or WMA...for ur own use of course.....

TwIsTeDdDx · 9th September 2002, 10:41

many say dvd-rom's work fine (does for me)
but also my lite-on burner reads the cd's fine with the latest firmware..

So far the protection has annoyed the masses and in no prevented sharing mp3's.. Dam if I have to I'll play the cd in my cd player and use the line in on my soundcard to copy the music.. If something can play it, it can be copied.. Record companies are wasting their time and annoying the lil guys that dont have the hardware (normally the people not making the mp3's anyways).

ctn|chrisw · 9th September 2002, 10:44

Quote:

Originally posted by whiteflip
what about people who put thousands of songs on their computer and wire them into a "Standard Stereo"??? hmmm. I only have 1/3/5/6/10 disc changers hooked up. Thats only a total of 25 CD's! plus i would have to switch the input on the receiver!

so much easier to build a network playlist put it on winamp 2.81 turn on repeat and shuffle and eq off put the lid down and turn the volume up.

My computer is plugged into my stereo if thats what u mean. I also have my tv hooked up (i can't stand crappy sound quality)

psychoticguyver · 9th September 2002, 13:56

the best way to use one in a pc is to take a good marker or felt tip pen and color in the outside ring of the cd (its a lot darker than the rest of the cd) and it wil make the cd drive skip the corrupted data track and play the cd (i tried this on my spiderman cd and it works)

. - .... .- -. .... · 9th September 2002, 14:41

Hmmm... the black marker approach. I wonder, out of all of you that suggested this, how many of you have actually tried it, or which ones got the instructions e-mailed to them by "a friend"...

1) I don't really feel like drawing black lines all over my CD's
2) It doesn't work. After a week of trying I can testify to that.

The problem is that there is a corrupt data track purposely written onto the CD. With your hifi this is not a problem, as it reads audio tracks only - it wouldn't know what to do with a data track. But your CD-ROM is designed to read data and audio, in that order. The corrupt data track never lets it get as far as reading the audio from the CD.

If you want to rip your CD to mp3, or create a readable CD, then you are going to need IsoBuster. This allows you to view the sessions on the disc, and you will see the audio and data tracks. Extract the audio tracks to your hard drive (rt-clk -> extract), and then either convert them to mp3 using an application such as CDex or EAC, or create a new audio CD from the wav files. As this new CD doesn't have the data track, it should play on your PC just fine.

psychoticguyver · 9th September 2002, 15:09

hey i read it off the winamp news thingy first

and after a while i tried it on my spiderman cd (its the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outside ring of the cd which looks differant from the rest of it) and it does work

. it blocks the corrupt data track so the cd-rom drive skips it and goes onto the rest of the cd AUDIO without having to use any programme and setting back a couple of companys from their great idea of doing that

. - .... .- -. .... · 9th September 2002, 15:13

I know the theory behind it, but unless you get the marker line exactly on the border between the data and audio files then it either won't work, or lops off the audio tracks. And many CD's don't have a visible border between the files so its a case of trial and error.

I tried it with the "Attack of the Clones" soundtrack. One week later, at the cost of my sanity, the CD looked like a map of London and still wouldn't play.

I prefer my method

psychoticguyver · 9th September 2002, 15:18

i used my spiderman cd as a basis for my theory of it that most of the corrupted data tracks are about 0.25cm (2.5mm) from the see through outside plasticy thing which seems to work perfectly on mine and my friends cd and for the crypto-gram blokie too (most of the time it's just a thing of getting the right angle of light hitting the cd for when you when you color it

8th September 2002, 21:34	#1
jebg Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 3	How to play a "protected" CD?? Hej, I don't know if you have the same problem out there. But a lot of CDs today cannot be played on a PC. Only on the CD-player attached to the big HiFi equipment. Is it possible to use such a CD in a PC? Anyone who knows?? Yours Benny

8th September 2002, 22:08	#10
james Forum PFY (Major Dude) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WR3 or NG7 Posts: 6.2+3i Posts: 1,698	I have a serious question here. How is it that this subject is allowed (circumventing copy protection) whereas an earlier thread about saving Shoutcast streams mysteriously disappeared... He uses statistics like a drunk uses lamp-posts: for support, not illumination.

8th September 2002, 23:55	#13
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,028	dont buy it. if you buy it return it. if it says CDDA and has that copy protection on it then sue for mislabeling a product and/or false advertising. I'm Back?

9th September 2002, 01:58	#14
dirkdeftly Forum King Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cydonia, Mars Posts: 2,651	Whiteflip: That's a smart move, let's spend thousands of dollars on suing a company over a $16 item that won't play in our computer. Jeez... "guilt is the cause of more disauders than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings

9th September 2002, 04:33	#16
Bop Forum King Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 2,884	OR you could just use you a standard stereo... ßoþL¡©¡†¥

8th September 2002, 21:36	#2
Bilbo Baggins Wind Chime of the Apocalypse Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Forest Posts: 17,226	Draw on the outside track with a black marker pen.

8th September 2002, 21:40	#3
I am Jesus Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Your mom Posts: 1,555	take off the condom

8th September 2002, 21:43	#4
jebg Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 3	Yes, I've heard about that... that would be in the very inner ring. But what about CDs you borrow from friends? Isn't there a program or two who fools this protection??

8th September 2002, 21:45	#5
ctn\|chrisw Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 3,308	I think you have to make a cd image or sumptin

8th September 2002, 21:50	#6
Xion(810) Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gran Da Val Island, Ragol Posts: 1,020	Start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>CD Player Ta-da.

8th September 2002, 22:01	#9
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	dont buy them, then the record company get the message. more often than not, you can return the record and get a nonprotected one in return.

8th September 2002, 23:20	#11
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	because he legally purchased a cd that he cannot play due to that? I suppose it still breaks the over media zelous DMCA even talking about a black marker. "mommy, when i grow up i want to be in charge of a giant industry and buy out the governments and make them write law for me."

9th September 2002, 02:50	#15
QHOBBES Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I H8 Mods Posts: 1,405	Here's what you do: buy a copy protected cd. Now right after you buy head over to customer service thing and tell them you want to return because you don't agree with the liscening terms (good way to get free software/games, but almost all RIAA cds have the same liscening terms, so it's assumed you will follow them if you open the package), and wish to return it. Just keep doing this the entire day until all the copy protected cds are off the shelf. btw they will find this extremely annoying since it usually is a longer process to return something than to buy it, so bring some friends so they never have any down time.

9th September 2002, 09:05	#18
whiteflip Post Master General (Forum King) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Seattle, Now Las Vegas Posts: 6,028	what about people who put thousands of songs on their computer and wire them into a "Standard Stereo"??? hmmm. I only have 1/3/5/6/10 disc changers hooked up. Thats only a total of 25 CD's! plus i would have to switch the input on the receiver! so much easier to build a network playlist put it on winamp 2.81 turn on repeat and shuffle and eq off put the lid down and turn the volume up. I'm Back?

9th September 2002, 09:18	#19
Kudoz7 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 12	hifi put the cd in a hifi and use a line out...or if you are lucky enough..a digital optical connector and rip the SOB to MP3 or WMA...for ur own use of course.....

9th September 2002, 10:41	#20
TwIsTeDdDx Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 108	many say dvd-rom's work fine (does for me) but also my lite-on burner reads the cd's fine with the latest firmware.. So far the protection has annoyed the masses and in no prevented sharing mp3's.. Dam if I have to I'll play the cd in my cd player and use the line in on my soundcard to copy the music.. If something can play it, it can be copied.. Record companies are wasting their time and annoying the lil guys that dont have the hardware (normally the people not making the mp3's anyways).

9th September 2002, 13:56	#22
psychoticguyver Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: loonieland posts: 666 Posts: 750	the best way to use one in a pc is to take a good marker or felt tip pen and color in the outside ring of the cd (its a lot darker than the rest of the cd) and it wil make the cd drive skip the corrupted data track and play the cd (i tried this on my spiderman cd and it works) Now accepting refugee's

9th September 2002, 14:41	#23
. - .... .- -. .... Backpacking Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: საქართველო (Georgia) Posts: 10,104	Hmmm... the black marker approach. I wonder, out of all of you that suggested this, how many of you have actually tried it, or which ones got the instructions e-mailed to them by "a friend"... 1) I don't really feel like drawing black lines all over my CD's 2) It doesn't work. After a week of trying I can testify to that. The problem is that there is a corrupt data track purposely written onto the CD. With your hifi this is not a problem, as it reads audio tracks only - it wouldn't know what to do with a data track. But your CD-ROM is designed to read data and audio, in that order. The corrupt data track never lets it get as far as reading the audio from the CD. If you want to rip your CD to mp3, or create a readable CD, then you are going to need IsoBuster. This allows you to view the sessions on the disc, and you will see the audio and data tracks. Extract the audio tracks to your hard drive (rt-clk -> extract), and then either convert them to mp3 using an application such as CDex or EAC, or create a new audio CD from the wav files. As this new CD doesn't have the data track, it should play on your PC just fine. Like my photography? Buy some here....

9th September 2002, 15:09	#24
psychoticguyver Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: loonieland posts: 666 Posts: 750	hey i read it off the winamp news thingy first and after a while i tried it on my spiderman cd (its the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outside ring of the cd which looks differant from the rest of it) and it does work. it blocks the corrupt data track so the cd-rom drive skips it and goes onto the rest of the cd AUDIO without having to use any programme and setting back a couple of companys from their great idea of doing that Now accepting refugee's

9th September 2002, 15:13	#25
. - .... .- -. .... Backpacking Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: საქართველო (Georgia) Posts: 10,104	I know the theory behind it, but unless you get the marker line exactly on the border between the data and audio files then it either won't work, or lops off the audio tracks. And many CD's don't have a visible border between the files so its a case of trial and error. I tried it with the "Attack of the Clones" soundtrack. One week later, at the cost of my sanity, the CD looked like a map of London and still wouldn't play. I prefer my method Like my photography? Buy some here....

9th September 2002, 15:18	#26
psychoticguyver Major Dude Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: loonieland posts: 666 Posts: 750	i used my spiderman cd as a basis for my theory of it that most of the corrupted data tracks are about 0.25cm (2.5mm) from the see through outside plasticy thing which seems to work perfectly on mine and my friends cd and for the crypto-gram blokie too (most of the time it's just a thing of getting the right angle of light hitting the cd for when you when you color it Now accepting refugee's

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