Old 27th March 2017, 15:04   #1
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Quinto Black CT (Update v1.1)


Skin Name: Quinto Black CT (v1.1)
Author: PeterK.
Type: Modern Skin
File Extension: wal
SHA-1: 10A5810D526A674D2828B3E580D3F131C35290DB
Size: 469 KB
Changelog:
- added the option which allows to choose the position of notifier on the desktop
- made the minimum size of containers like Playlist Editor or MediaLibrary slightly bigger, so nothing gets cut off on high-res displays
- changed the color of the song being played in Playlist Editor and MediaLibrary for better visibility
- changed main background color in containers

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Old 30th March 2017, 12:46   #2
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Awesome! Just checking out now..

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Old 30th March 2017, 13:25   #3
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Cool, but Notifier is not responding to my position selections.. am I the only one?

EDIT / UPDATE: correction, issue seems to be the menu not disabling unwanted option. I think Arizlo found what is exactly the issue and how to fix it.
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Old 30th March 2017, 15:09   #4
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Good job, PeterK.

I can move the notifier around, but I also have to return to the option and disable (click on) the previously selected location to get the new location to work.

Also, the border control only works for the Media Library window. It is present but disabled on other windows.

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Old 30th March 2017, 15:34   #5
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Hello guys,

yes, I have to admit that in order to place the Notifier in, say, top right corner, you have to select this new option and clear the previous one.

As far as I know this is a Winamp bug which appears while using Modern Skins. Quinto was built and programmed using the Modern Skin script files. On the other side, I am totally aware of the fact that this "oddity" does not appear using Bento. As I said, I used Modern Skin scripts and hence chose a different approach while coding so copying and pasting Bento's files never worked with that hide/show option in my skin.

I hope you can live with that. Can you?
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Old 30th March 2017, 15:44   #6
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I hope you can live with that. Can you?
It's not a serious issue for me. I mostly use the top center location.

What about the border control for the Playlist Editor, Video, and Visualizer windows? Having a control that doesn't work makes the skin appear broken.

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Old 30th March 2017, 15:50   #7
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What about the border control for the Playlist Editor, Video, and Visualizer windows? Having a control that doesn't work makes the skin appear broken.
I do apologize in advance for my silly question Aminifu: what is border control? Is this another Bento feature?
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Old 30th March 2017, 15:56   #8
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I do apologize in advance for my silly question Aminifu: what is border control? Is this another Bento feature?
No, my bad. What I'm talking about is the control for changing the appearance of the window border and adding playback controls to some of the other windows. It does work when the windows are resized large enough, otherwise it is disabled (dimmed out). So this is by design and is not an error.

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Old 30th March 2017, 16:13   #9
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Oh, now I get it.

You are talking about the frame of a container window.

Every window state (normal, no-frame, playback option) has a minimum size.

I could have made a limitation for all window frames and set the minimum size for all to the same dimensions. But for those of you who do not want to use the additional playback area the Playlist Editor window might be a little bit too big/wide.
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Your design is perfectly acceptable.

I setup default sizes and locations for all of the separate container windows in a skin (the first time I use it). In my initial arrangement some of the windows were too small, so it wasn't possible to activate the no-frame or playback options for them. Dimming the control is a good way to indicate that a container window is not large enough for those options to be available.

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Old 30th March 2017, 16:39   #11
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Your design is perfectly acceptable.
I am very happy to hear that.

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Dimming the control is a good way to indicate that a container window is not large enough for those options to be available.
It is a hint for the user saying "Wait! There's more".
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However, it is a little inconvenient that the only way to resize a re-sizable container window in your skin is by using the control that appears by pointing to the window's lower right corner. Is it possible to add horizontal and vertical resizing controls that appear when pointing to the left, right, and bottom sides of a window?

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inconvenient that the only way to resize a re-sizable container window in your skin is by using the control that appears by pointing to the window's lower right corner.
Now this is debatable!

I think grabbing the left top corner of a window, moving it to the spot I want and then grabbing the bottom right corner while having a permanent control over the width and height of a window seems more convenient to me than moving four borders of a window up and down/left and right.

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Is it possible to add horizontal and vertical resizing controls that appear when pointing to the left, right, and bottom sides of a window?
Of course it is possible but I will not do it because:

1) we already have a divide-pointer in the No-Frame window. And if I add a resize pointer to that border Winamp will not know what to do: move the divider to the left or resize the window:



2) adding a resize-pointer to the bottom (while running the Playback window frame) would end up with it on the entire playback area - not only on the frame's bottom:



Cases 1 and 2 are the reason why I decided to keep the resize ability of a container window on the bottom right corner only.

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Cool, but Notifier is not responding to my position selections.. am I the only one?

EDIT / UPDATE: correction, issue seems to be the menu not disabling unwanted option. I think Arizlo found what is exactly the issue and how to fix it.
Yes. If you comment out all the notifier lines in SCRIPTS\lib\attribs.m and then recompile display.maki, ml_container.maki and songinfo.maki then you can replace your notifier with OpenSource Notifier 3.0.3.

The attached file is not an update. It is just to show how you can rebase the notifier.
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Old 1st April 2017, 07:03   #15
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Old 1st April 2017, 12:47   #16
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Sorry for that. Suggesting something is one thing and tampering with somebody else's work is another.
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Now this is debatable!

I think grabbing the left top corner of a window, moving it to the spot I want and then grabbing the bottom right corner while having a permanent control over the width and height of a window seems more convenient to me than moving four borders of a window up and down/left and right.



Of course it is possible but I will not do it because:

...

Cases 1 and 2 are the reason why I decided to keep the resize ability of a container window on the bottom right corner only.
Ok, it's not a deal breaker. I'm not constantly resizing widows anyway. I've been spoiled by Big Bento (it has resizing controls all over the place).

I'll restrict my comments to any issues with the features you have decided to include in your skin. So far, everything is fine with those, imo.

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Sorry for that. Suggesting something is one thing and tampering with somebody else's work is another.
Our friend can be a bit harsh sometimes

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..As far as I know this is a Winamp bug which appears while using Modern Skins.


This is not a Winamp bug, is a double declaration of the same parameter on your scripts, so Winamp is "correctly" reading it from 2 sources at the same time, so the user needs to tell the system both changes (i.e. "yes, click-enable Never Show" and "yes, click-disable Show Always").

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I hope you can live with that. Can you?


If I were you I would use the help offered by Arizló, it's a shame to have such a great skin with a such a non-standard behaviour. We -skinners- can understand the reason and live with it (in fact I don't use that option that much, except when I'm skinning), but the casual user will see it as plain wrong (there isn't other skin where it works like that, unless is badly coded).

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