Old 6th May 2014, 13:35   #1
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Sad, but it´s time to move on...

Due to lack of participation from members we will be closing this forum in a few days.
We gave it our best shot but sadly it didn't work out.

More info here: http://winampenthusiasts.com/showthread.php?tid=571
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Old 6th May 2014, 13:45   #2
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not impressed by this...
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although it's extremely frustrating that the new owners seem to suffer from the same problem as the old owners in not giving people much information on what is going to happen in the future or any kind of time frame at all.
not much has been said because a lot of things are still being worked out (i've spent countless hours researching alternatives to what we have been using for certain parts of functionality over the last 2-3 months) and being reviewed and removed / replaced as necessary.

and it's not like i've not given out loads of snippets of info in the main news thread on some of the aspects that are going to happen with the desktop client (dependent library changes, feature adjustments, loading / saving time improvements, etc) so it's not like no information is being provided.

but if a complete list is wanted for the next release (which is very unlikely to be a 5.x release), then that's not possible at the moment (especially for dates of things when that's subject to on-going research) as we're still working it out (which i know people aren't going to like, but that's all that can be said for the moment and is me being as open as is viable). all i can say with certainty is that those who are still part of the beta list will be receiving a first post-AOL build later this month.
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Old 6th May 2014, 14:31   #3
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He probably refers to what we've been already discussing a couple of weeks ago (from this comment on) about Bussiness / Marketing communication.. wont go further since we've talk about it a lot.
I think I've already said this before, but I particularly appreciate what you do on these forums, it shouldn't be your "burden" if we take into account that you're also involved in other "parts" of Winamp (I know there isn't too much traffic now compared to "the golden age", but it's still a demand..). I hope someone else comes down here soon and help with whatever is needed.
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Old 6th May 2014, 15:10   #4
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When the forum started, I thought it was a good idea, it had a fresh look and had a lot of potential.

I think too many mistakes were made, a new domain without an info, deleted sub forums and threads.

Expecting more participation is a bit weird, e.g. plug-in devs who posted in the forum were surprised, that their threads were deleted without any info. So why should they use a forum, if there is always the risk, that stuff will be revamped, moved or deleted and nobody gets any info before such changes will be applied?

I'm a bit sad, that the forum will die, though, I'm not really surprised.
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Expecting more participation is a bit weird, e.g. plug-in devs who posted in the forum were surprised, that their threads were deleted without any info. So why should they use a forum, if there is always the risk, that stuff will be revamped, moved or deleted and nobody gets any info before such changes will be applied?
There was never much movement in that part of the forum, 2 out of 3 where actually empty. When we decided to remove those sections we thought about giving another direction to the forums, different from what the official was offering, since the plug-ins section was already present here, we didn't wanted to overlap or generate duplicated content..
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Old 6th May 2014, 22:29   #6
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I think the website administrators were a little too excited and impatient for a new focus. It takes time to build a community (attract consistent participants), especially now when there are so many alternatives to spend time with.

The technical/problem-solving parts of this site form the backbone and should have formed the backbone for that one (even if there was duplication), imo. Most people look for answers to their problems and never/seldom post anything. The more social parts (tangential to Winamp) piggyback off of the technical and they can be discussed anywhere. Focusing on them alone was a mistake, imo.

I think new plug-in development has declined for 2 reasons. Winamp is much more robust in itself and there is little money to be made. Duplicates of the same old things are not exciting and most users don't feel they should pay for an add-on when the main app is free to use.

The look and mechanics of the Enthusiasts site is/was better (more modern) in many ways and I will be sad to see it go. Maybe some aspects can be incorporated here, if the underlying software can accommodate them.

Anyway, a big cheer to all those who tried to give us an alternative when things were looking dire.

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not much has been said because a lot of things are still being worked out (i've spent countless hours researching alternatives to what we have been using for certain parts of functionality over the last 2-3 months) and being reviewed and removed / replaced as necessary.
maybe we can help? whats an example?

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all i can say with certainty is that those who are still part of the beta list will be receiving a first post-AOL build later this month.
if I am not on that list already, I'd like to be. what is the process?

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I have tried that so many times, but entering the E-Mail-Adress doesn't work for me... http://www.winamp.com/ and if I cannot enter it, then I cannot come onto that list...

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beta-list access is invite only (as it's been previously) so it's not possible to do it via the main site.
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Old 7th May 2014, 09:20   #10
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Sorry DJ Pete. I haven't been too active on it since this forum was OK.
It was great though!

Even more sad is the fact that there was articles and everything!
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there is nothing stopping people posting articles on this forum (was one of the things which had been done well).
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there is nothing stopping people posting articles on this forum (was one of the things which had been done well).
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not sure what was funny about my reply...
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not sure what was funny about my reply...
I wasn't laughing at you.
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I wasn't laughing at you.
Your funny signature?
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is a bit tricky if i don't have a signature.
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Old 8th May 2014, 02:28   #17
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I don't think anyone expects a full detailed list of changes. Most would be happy with a general statement EG:

We aim to have an official announcement on the upcoming new version of Winamp in approx 6 months time. We are hard at work bla bla bla
Our general plan is ...
We are looking at revamping the forum to a brand new modern look with lots of new features...... and hope to have an announcement on that in 3 months.


And rather than people have to puzzle together all this info from a post here and there it should be a simple statement on the main landing page.

It would give direction to members, keep a professional image up for the company and keep people interested and curious.

Say nothing for months without any official statements will only lose more people.

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PS Is it just me or does the header to the forum look like it's not finished? Is it that hard to make a nice full width header?

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We will or are moving a lot of the downloads, links etc to the Facebook page and that will continue..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1446247392261517/

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(will have to find another project to bug people with..)
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PS Is it just me or does the header to the forum look like it's not finished? Is it that hard to make a nice full width header?

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We will or are moving a lot of the downloads, links etc to the Facebook page and that will continue..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1446247392261517/
cool, I didn't even realize that existed.

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the forum header (and other parts) is known to be a mess since that's how it was when things were quickly migrated (having a lot of things from the AOL days still present/part disabled). it will likely all be sorted out when the common branding of the sites is rolled out (based on what i'm aware off).
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