SETI@forums.winamp.com

fwgx · 19th November 2002, 11:23

I've been running SETI for quite a while now (will hit 100 work units today!

). And I thought It's be good to make a WA forum member group, so I just have. Available here.

You can join up for a new SETI account or move your group membership by clicking the join link at the top of that page. All your WU's will be transfered from your previous group.

What is SETI?

Quote:

SETI@home is a scientific experiment that

uses Internet-connected computers

in the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). You can participate by running a free program that

downloads and analyzes radio telescope data.

It can be run as either a screensaver (REALLY NOT RECCOMENDED!) or on a command line through a DOS box. The screensaver version is not reccomended because its at least 5 times as slow! due to processing fancy graphics instead of doing real work.

why do we need a team

Teams are just a way of groups of people to get together and work together. They aren't needed and you don't have to join on to use Seti. I want you to join this team though

.

Where can I get it?

The Seti HP is here.

The download page is here.

It's dead easy to install and run, just read the documentation available.

What platforms will it run on?

Pretty much anything and everything from x86 to macs to SPARCS to Alphas to ...... anything your likley to be using.

Will it make computer really slow?

No. Seti is run as a really low priority thread in windows so anything else that wants the CPU gets it straight away. You can use you computer as if it weren't there and when your not using it SETI will take full advantage of your machine.

What is a WU

A WU is work unit. The servers at Seti send you work units for you to process, when they're done you send the results back to them. WU's can take a long time to complete, I average 4hrs/WU on an XP2100+.

What if my computer crashes?

You won't lose anything, Seti stores everything in text files as it goes along so you can kill it whenever you like, including crashes.

Programs for using SETI:

You don't need any special programs to use Seti but there are a lot that will show you stats and do other useful tasks. A good list is available here.

I'm using SetiStash which gives you a few details about your progress. It runs the CLI version of SETI and can hide the CLI window and be minimised to the systray. This program is really just so that you don't have to be connected to the internet when a WU finishes and insted transfer multiple WUs when you are connected.

I also use Seti Spy to show info on the performance of my machine and other handy bits about your groups stats.

If anyone is interested in joining the cause please do. I thought it'd be a nice idea for these forums have their own group.

Trigear · 19th November 2002, 15:48

adding my 200-some WUs to the list

(triGEAR and Dregore)

fwgx · 19th November 2002, 15:58

kick ass!

I hit 100 just over an hour ago. Any more takers?
edit: Any chance of some glue for this thread for a bit?

Ember69 · 19th November 2002, 16:45

truthfully i dont know what the whole thing is but if it doesnt get glued, i'll just sit and reply when it starts going down

Trigear · 19th November 2002, 16:55

you know, i'm glad you brought this up phily. i've been sitting here pumping out work units forever, and at least now i have a purpose.

stttafffy · 19th November 2002, 18:12

i think i've done about 10 work units, but i stopped it as my screensaver because it had a purple frame that never moved, and would have burned into my screen. also, i forget the email i used for it, and the password :P would i be able to turn it on overnight (not as a screensaver)? then i'd join

c2R · 19th November 2002, 18:37

I've not used SETI before (mainly as I've got a nice screensaver already - but now you've told about this command line version that can run on Win32 systems I've installed it on my network server... so we shall see how well it works!

Couldn't get it to run on my speedy computer though - I think the firewall gets in the way - so it's running on the network server thing, which is a little on the slow side...

Trigear · 19th November 2002, 18:54

if you have windows2000 or xp, you can have seti@home run at all times... it only uses the processor cycles you are not using (basically the same thing as the "system idle process" that always runs in the background... just occupying the cycles so your processor continues to run.

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[edit] pardon the image. i was bored.

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fwgx · 19th November 2002, 19:09

I know that there's a proxy switch on the Unix version to get through proxy servers. The command looks like:

setiathome -proxy proxy

ort

Dunno if you can do the same on windows
It's really bad using the screensaver, it's just so innefficient, it might look nice but it's doing nothing for the cause. The CLI can be run at all times without the need for a screensaver. Also the best screensaver is to turn your monitor off if your leaving it on overnight

.

This is what SetiSpy and Seti Stash look like, both can easily be minimised to the tray and seti spy run only when you want to look see what's happening.

Atmo · 19th November 2002, 19:13

Just a quick question, how much bandwith does it use??

I'd be willing to give it a go if it didnt tie up my slow ass, shared 28k connection...

ctn|chrisw · 19th November 2002, 19:27

umm...what do i click to register? i looked but cant find it (join says im not in the database) [excuse me for being an idiot]

fwgx · 19th November 2002, 19:46

To join you download and unzip the files then the first time you run it it will ask you for an existing accout or to create a new one. You have to have a Seti account to join the group.

It only takes up bandwidth when it's transfering results or new WU's, so very very little. A few hundred k max when it does. You can run it off-line and then transfer when you connect. Thats why I use the Seti Stash program so I don't have to be connected to the net to use it, it will buffer the results to return and then transfer them when it's connected.

Trigear · 19th November 2002, 20:34

phily, did you get your 100 unit congratulations letter yet?
they send you one at 100 wu. at 250 they send you a certificate.
i don't know what comes next.

(how long does it take you to process a wu? i've got it down to about 15 hours)

[edit] oh, and can you regenerate the page? it hasn't added my stats in there yet, just my name... [/edit]

fwgx · 19th November 2002, 20:41

Yeah I got me certifficate and I'm doing about 4hrs/WU

. I don't know how to refresh the stats or if i does it automatically or what. Will have a look.

dylman · 19th November 2002, 20:42

OK I'm in. I did have 107 units completed from ages ago, but I don't have the password for my old account.

I never knew about the CLI client, it's ace...

Trigear · 19th November 2002, 20:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Phily Baby
4hrs/WU

darn you. when i upgrade my computer, you shall see... then i will get it down to... 8hrs/WU or less... darn you!

[edit] dylman, if you remember the old email address, you can use that to get your password back [/edit]

dylman · 19th November 2002, 20:52

But they'll only send the password email to my old long-since-deactivated email account. No way around it sadly.

fwgx · 19th November 2002, 21:10

If it was a hotmail account you could just re-register is and get it sent there.

dylman · 19th November 2002, 21:32

It was my old Freeserve account. If they're still handing out free accounts to everybody, and if they'll let me re-register the old account name, then I suppose it is technically possible. Pain in the arse though...

henry3k56 · 19th November 2002, 23:34

I run mine over the network. No problems doing so.

John M · 19th November 2002, 23:38

what about folding?

steak · 19th November 2002, 23:43

Ok, I'm part of 'the group'

n_ick2000 · 20th November 2002, 00:05

Quote:

Originally posted by John M
what about folding?

yeah, their are pretty much 2 main distributed computing projects. SETI and Folding

I've heard that Folding is supposed to be a bit more competitive because of the massive [H]ard and Overclockers teams.

Oh, and I'll see if I can join SETI.

Anacific · 20th November 2002, 01:51

Looks tempting

I'll join as well. Might as well post here more often.
Darn school!

InvisableMan · 20th November 2002, 02:07

heh, up untill 2 months ago i did seti since it started but alas i deleted it so i need to make a new account. meh. oh well

*joins in the fun*

psyfive · 20th November 2002, 02:32

added my 200+ work units.

ctn|chrisw · 20th November 2002, 02:35

can you have more then one pc doing it @ once per account? cause i have it on my pc, but my mom's p4 2.2ghz with 1gig mem is just sitting there, hardly ever being used

psyfive · 20th November 2002, 02:38

Quote:

Originally posted by cmw6988
can you have more then one pc doing it @ once per account? cause i have it on my pc, but my mom's p4 2.2ghz with 1gig mem is just sitting there, hardly ever being used

Yes I had it running on three pcs once all on the same account.

ctn|chrisw · 20th November 2002, 02:40

ok. thank you

fwgx · 20th November 2002, 12:30

*bump*

So far we have 11 members and 630 results returned

. That's a pretty good start but we could do with some more people, it's not as if this is a small forum, there must be some more takers. Happy hunting.

binary hero · 20th November 2002, 12:41

will sign up at home

n_ick2000 · 20th November 2002, 14:03

Yeah, I somehow gotta convince my dad to run this at his work, and put it under my name.

fwgx · 20th November 2002, 14:09

Now if only we had a spare Netra 20 or V880 lying around at work.....

Damn this slow ass Ultra 5

ctn|chrisw · 20th November 2002, 14:59

hmm..tis kinda boring. Im bored.

Damn i wish what those graph thingies meant.

fwgx · 20th November 2002, 15:09

don't use the screensaver! unless you must. Just leave it running with the command line version as you use your computer.

c2R · 20th November 2002, 17:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Phily Baby
*bump*

So far we have 11 members and 630 results returned . That's a pretty good start but we could do with some more people, it's not as if this is a small forum, there must be some more takers. Happy hunting.

My poor old machine is taking forever to process the work unit thing.

'tis definitely doing something though, I can see it with the -verbose switch.

psyfive · 20th November 2002, 19:02

Made a new avatar to show my support.

I too am bored!

c2R · 20th November 2002, 19:15

Ah ha - I've figured out how to run it through a proxy server - if anyone's having trouble use the -help switch, and then it'll give you the options. I found that using the socks proxy works fine, yay!

Now I've got two machines running it simultaneously.

nierke · 20th November 2002, 19:31

I'm in too

But my PC....

19h/WU

cgfiend · 20th November 2002, 22:26

I'm in. It's been awhile since I last logged in, but it looks like I'm already ahead of everyone.

Catch me if you can!

I've got an older ID but I can't see the e-mail anymore to get my password. It's no biggie tho, I only had 6 results on that one.

Can someone give me some pointers on how to use the command line version? -h doesn't give me very many specifics.

19th November 2002, 15:58	#3
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	kick ass! I hit 100 just over an hour ago. Any more takers? edit: Any chance of some glue for this thread for a bit? "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

19th November 2002, 18:12	#6
stttafffy Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the ether Posts: 1,059	i think i've done about 10 work units, but i stopped it as my screensaver because it had a purple frame that never moved, and would have burned into my screen. also, i forget the email i used for it, and the password :P would i be able to turn it on overnight (not as a screensaver)? then i'd join In space no one can hear you scream.

19th November 2002, 18:37	#7
c2R Stereotype? (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ware, England Posts: 3,511	I've not used SETI before (mainly as I've got a nice screensaver already - but now you've told about this command line version that can run on Win32 systems I've installed it on my network server... so we shall see how well it works! Couldn't get it to run on my speedy computer though - I think the firewall gets in the way - so it's running on the network server thing, which is a little on the slow side... lights out for darker skies # forums.winamp.com boinc team # tms

19th November 2002, 19:09	#9
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	I know that there's a proxy switch on the Unix version to get through proxy servers. The command looks like: setiathome -proxy proxyort Dunno if you can do the same on windows It's really bad using the screensaver, it's just so innefficient, it might look nice but it's doing nothing for the cause. The CLI can be run at all times without the need for a screensaver. Also the best screensaver is to turn your monitor off if your leaving it on overnight . This is what SetiSpy and Seti Stash look like, both can easily be minimised to the tray and seti spy run only when you want to look see what's happening. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

19th November 2002, 19:13	#10
Atmo The Freak (Forum King) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 9,399	Just a quick question, how much bandwith does it use?? I'd be willing to give it a go if it didnt tie up my slow ass, shared 28k connection... :Psykotech:

19th November 2002, 15:48	#2
Trigear bear! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,426	adding my 200-some WUs to the list (triGEAR and Dregore)

19th November 2002, 16:45	#4
Ember69 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 299	truthfully i dont know what the whole thing is but if it doesnt get glued, i'll just sit and reply when it starts going down

19th November 2002, 16:55	#5
Trigear bear! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,426	you know, i'm glad you brought this up phily. i've been sitting here pumping out work units forever, and at least now i have a purpose.

19th November 2002, 18:54	#8
Trigear bear! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,426	if you have windows2000 or xp, you can have seti@home run at all times... it only uses the processor cycles you are not using (basically the same thing as the "system idle process" that always runs in the background... just occupying the cycles so your processor continues to run. image [edit] pardon the image. i was bored. [/edit]

19th November 2002, 19:27	#11
ctn\|chrisw Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 3,308	umm...what do i click to register? i looked but cant find it (join says im not in the database) [excuse me for being an idiot]

19th November 2002, 19:46	#12
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	To join you download and unzip the files then the first time you run it it will ask you for an existing accout or to create a new one. You have to have a Seti account to join the group. It only takes up bandwidth when it's transfering results or new WU's, so very very little. A few hundred k max when it does. You can run it off-line and then transfer when you connect. Thats why I use the Seti Stash program so I don't have to be connected to the net to use it, it will buffer the results to return and then transfer them when it's connected. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

19th November 2002, 20:34	#13
Trigear bear! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,426	phily, did you get your 100 unit congratulations letter yet? they send you one at 100 wu. at 250 they send you a certificate. i don't know what comes next. (how long does it take you to process a wu? i've got it down to about 15 hours) [edit] oh, and can you regenerate the page? it hasn't added my stats in there yet, just my name... [/edit]

19th November 2002, 20:41	#14
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	Yeah I got me certifficate and I'm doing about 4hrs/WU . I don't know how to refresh the stats or if i does it automatically or what. Will have a look. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

19th November 2002, 20:52	#17
dylman Forum King Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawarden Posts: 2,115	But they'll only send the password email to my old long-since-deactivated email account. No way around it sadly. There's no need to tell me when I'm right; I operate on that principle exclusively and with absolute certainty

19th November 2002, 21:10	#18
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	If it was a hotmail account you could just re-register is and get it sent there. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

19th November 2002, 21:32	#19
dylman Forum King Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawarden Posts: 2,115	It was my old Freeserve account. If they're still handing out free accounts to everybody, and if they'll let me re-register the old account name, then I suppose it is technically possible. Pain in the arse though... There's no need to tell me when I'm right; I operate on that principle exclusively and with absolute certainty

19th November 2002, 23:34	#20
henry3k56 Forum King Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Internet Posts: 3 Trillion Posts: 4,241	I run mine over the network. No problems doing so. henry3k56 \| Summer is here. My Flickr Page & Frontierra \| Posting Since September 2001.

19th November 2002, 23:38	#21
John M Puts the Cuss in General Discussions (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cincy, Ohio Posts: 3,624	what about folding? missyob made me post this.

19th November 2002, 23:43	#22
steak Major Dude Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Zooropa Posts: 820	Ok, I'm part of 'the group'

20th November 2002, 01:51	#24
Anacific Major Dude Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,744	Looks tempting I'll join as well. Might as well post here more often. Darn school! "He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence." - William Blake WSPA \| WWF \| RSPCA \| AAPA \| Green Peace - Know and help... The Rainforest Site \| The Animal Rescue Site - Click and help...

20th November 2002, 02:07	#25
InvisableMan Ninja Master! (Forum King) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Hotel California Posts: 4,333	heh, up untill 2 months ago i did seti since it started but alas i deleted it so i need to make a new account. meh. oh well joins in the fun

20th November 2002, 02:32	#26
psyfive Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,526	added my 200+ work units.

20th November 2002, 02:35	#27
ctn\|chrisw Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 3,308	can you have more then one pc doing it @ once per account? cause i have it on my pc, but my mom's p4 2.2ghz with 1gig mem is just sitting there, hardly ever being used

20th November 2002, 02:40	#29
ctn\|chrisw Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 3,308	ok. thank you

20th November 2002, 12:30	#30
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	bump So far we have 11 members and 630 results returned . That's a pretty good start but we could do with some more people, it's not as if this is a small forum, there must be some more takers. Happy hunting. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

20th November 2002, 12:41	#31
binary hero Banned Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 7,004	will sign up at home

20th November 2002, 14:03	#32
n_ick2000 Forum King Join Date: May 2001 Location: - Posts: 2,501	Yeah, I somehow gotta convince my dad to run this at his work, and put it under my name. \|

20th November 2002, 14:09	#33
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	Now if only we had a spare Netra 20 or V880 lying around at work..... Damn this slow ass Ultra 5 "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

20th November 2002, 14:59	#34
ctn\|chrisw Forum King Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 3,308	hmm..tis kinda boring. Im bored. Damn i wish what those graph thingies meant.

20th November 2002, 15:09	#35
fwgx Rudolf the Red. (Forum King) Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 9,314	don't use the screensaver! unless you must. Just leave it running with the command line version as you use your computer. "We think science is interesting and if you disagree, you can fuck off."

20th November 2002, 19:02	#37
psyfive Forum King Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,526	Made a new avatar to show my support. I too am bored!

20th November 2002, 19:15	#38
c2R Stereotype? (Forum King) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ware, England Posts: 3,511	Ah ha - I've figured out how to run it through a proxy server - if anyone's having trouble use the -help switch, and then it'll give you the options. I found that using the socks proxy works fine, yay! Now I've got two machines running it simultaneously. lights out for darker skies # forums.winamp.com boinc team # tms

20th November 2002, 19:31	#39
nierke Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lithuania Posts: 295	I'm in too But my PC.... 19h/WU ...:::nierke:::...

20th November 2002, 22:26	#40
cgfiend Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 257	I'm in too... I'm in. It's been awhile since I last logged in, but it looks like I'm already ahead of everyone. Catch me if you can! I've got an older ID but I can't see the e-mail anymore to get my password. It's no biggie tho, I only had 6 results on that one. Can someone give me some pointers on how to use the command line version? -h doesn't give me very many specifics. Last edited by cgfiend; 20th November 2002 at 22:43.

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