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Old 22nd August 2011, 21:12   #1
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Winamp 5.6 * New: Option to write ratings to tags (for mp3, wma/wmv, ogg & flac)

in Version History vor Winamp 5.6
* New: Option to write ratings to tags (for mp3, wma/wmv, ogg & flac)

where is this feature?
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Old 23rd August 2011, 00:15   #2
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prefs > ML

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Old 20th September 2011, 14:11   #3
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OM EFFING GOD I've been trying to figure out how to do this for a LONG time!

Thank you very much to the people who created this option. Now I get to keep my beloved skins and be able to unify my song lists and ratings across multiple PC's.

THIS is what is going to allow me to keep my beloved Winamp as my regular media player for years to come. I was on the verge of despair that I would have to give it up and migrate to WMP.

Suggestion: This really should be advertised more or made more obvious as an option for other users benefit.

Again thank you soooooo much!
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Old 20th September 2011, 20:24   #4
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i hope ALL the Devs read the above, couldn't agree more.


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Old 10th October 2012, 22:44   #5
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Sorry to revive this thread, but I can't find that setting for the life of me. I read the winamp preferences guide and spent a couple hours on google, but keep coming up blank. I'm running v5.63 so it should be there, unless they removed it for some reason. I feel like I had this feature enabled before I re-imaged my laptop a while back because half my music library has ratings in the file, and I've been using winamp exclusively since I ripped them off cd years ago. Thanks, and I apologize in advance in case this setting turns out to be blindingly obvious.
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Old 10th October 2012, 23:03   #6
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It's under: Winamp > Prefs (Ctrl+P) > Media Library > Library Options tab:
Save ratings to file for compatible formats (default: off)
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Old 11th October 2012, 00:16   #7
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Wow, thank you so much. I can't believe that I missed that.
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Old 11th October 2012, 09:20   #8
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i am still so thankful Benski and the devs put this in, i might have had to go to fb2k or something i don't really like otherwise. and i'm also glad my feedback was heard so the data structure was compatible with de facto standards.

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Old 12th July 2015, 19:10   #9
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THANK YOU! I can almost completely use Winamp now. Made the switch from iTunes to MediaMonkey to Winamp (mostly because syncing works better for me).
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Old 12th July 2015, 21:18   #10
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Great feature that I never knew about - even after using Winamp for over 15 years! But I would appreciate a bit more info on how to use it.

Do I need to go to every one of my tracks and get winamp to save the id3 info again? Or is there a quick way to make it save the ratings for some 10,000 tracks?
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Old 13th July 2015, 02:19   #11
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Do I need to save the id3 info again?
Just Add all your (rated) songs to the Play List, then:

1. Select All (Ctrl + A)
2. Right click
3. Rate items -> No Rating (remove the ratings)
then:
5. Right click
6. Rate items -> ***** (re-apply rating)
(now Wait.... it may take a while, depending on how many songs...)

Done!
(ratings are now saved/embedded within the .mp3 file)
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Old 13th July 2015, 09:24   #12
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Great feature that I never knew about - even after using Winamp for over 15 years! But I would appreciate a bit more info on how to use it.

Do I need to go to every one of my tracks and get winamp to save the id3 info again? Or is there a quick way to make it save the ratings for some 10,000 tracks?
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Just Add all your (rated) songs to the Play List, then:

1. Select All (Ctrl + A)
2. Right click
3. Rate items -> No Rating (remove the ratings)
then:
5. Right click
6. Rate items -> ***** (re-apply rating)
(now Wait.... it may take a while, depending on how many songs...)

Done!
(ratings are now saved/embedded within the .mp3 file)
make sure you turn on the feature in prefs first, b/c by default it is NOT on, (which imo is a mistake).

AFTER you turn it on in prefs, then "rerate" all your files by sorting the ratings column, (in the ML) and highlighting each star value using the shift key.

if that's confusing to you, what I mean is you highlight all the 5 star stuff by clicking the 5 star top file, holding shift, scrolling to the last 5 star file, clicking it, release shift, and rerate (via right click) the now highlighted 5 star files. do that for each star value.

you do not need to remove any ratings, you just reapply the current value already displayed and already in the DB/ML.

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Old 13th July 2015, 11:31   #13
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..AFTER you turn it on in prefs, then "rerate" all your files by sorting the ratings column, (in the ML) and highlighting each star value using the shift key.

if that's confusing to you, what I mean is you highlight all the 5 star stuff by clicking the 5 star top file, holding shift, scrolling to the last 5 star file, clicking it, release shift, and rerate (via right click) the now highlighted 5 star files. do that for each star value.

you do not need to remove any ratings, you just reapply the current value already displayed and already in the DB/ML.
Kudos, definitively the best way.
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make sure you turn on the feature in prefs first, b/c by default it is NOT on, (which imo is a mistake).

AFTER you turn it on in prefs, then "rerate" all your files by sorting the ratings column, (in the ML) and highlighting each star value using the shift key.

if that's confusing to you, what I mean is you highlight all the 5 star stuff by clicking the 5 star top file, holding shift, scrolling to the last 5 star file, clicking it, release shift, and rerate (via right click) the now highlighted 5 star files. do that for each star value.

you do not need to remove any ratings, you just reapply the current value already displayed and already in the DB/ML.
Thanks!
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Old 9th November 2015, 15:36   #15
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How does WinAmp store FLAC ratings?

I'm asking because I generally use mp3tag to rate my music (access to more tags). WinAmp recognizes the mp3 ratings I assign with mp3tag, but can't seem to find the FLAC ratings. If I assign a FLAC rating with WinAmp, then mp3tag shows the rating. Is it supposed to do that?

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Old 9th November 2015, 15:39   #16
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mp3 uses id3v2.x to store ratings, specifically the POPM frame. usually, mp3tag only shows u 1-5 for that, but the real values (and string) are different, using 0-255.

FLACs use Vorbis for tags, and afaik, winamp and mp3tag both use RATING as the field for that. the values written are usually 20,40,60,80,100 but again show as 1-5.

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=345521

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3#ID...ting_tag_issue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis_comment

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while mp3tag enables multiple frames/values (the // thing) i find it best to stick to one frame & one value, esp for something like ratings, and winamp NEVER recognizes more than one value for any given frame, (and only one frame at that). for id3, that means one POPM frame and one value for it, and for Vorbis it means one RATING frame (the de facto standard) and one value for it.

in general, most apps use a 0-5 star system for display, and so i always try to use standards and values that will work in ANY app (or device), not just winamp and mp3tag.

Ryerman,

it is odd to me that mp3tag would write a vorbis comment: WINAMP RATING that winamp itself does not use. are you saying thats what happens? if so, odd! i consider that a bug.

i don't use mapping, or i try not to use it, beyond the 3 default maps it comes with. instead i enable multiple columns for all the ratings types i am aware of. this also keeps me from making a mistake of possibly entering an invalid value for the different format types. (needing to know the format type to use for data entry kinda invalidates the purpose of trying to make a single column for all ratings, doesn't it? or what am i missing?)

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while mp3tag enables multiple frames/values (the // thing) i find it best to stick to one frame & one value, esp for something like ratings
Amen to that.
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it is odd to me that mp3tag would write a vorbis comment: WINAMP RATING that winamp itself does not use. are you saying thats what happens? if so, odd! i consider that a bug.
Mp3tag will write any Vorbis Comment containing any value, subject to length and character encoding restrictions.
I consider that a feature, not a bug.
The user has to be sure to write the comment in a manner recognized by whatever app is used to read it.
The only time a Vorbis Comment would be called WINAMP RATING is if the column was defined by %WINAMP RATING%. (Just to be clear, I mentioned "RATING WINAMP" and I assume that is what you are referring to.)

Somebody may want a Vorbis Comment like this: MY_BIRTHDAY_IS=April 23,1900.
He would enter the data in a Mp3tag column defined as %MY_BIRTHDAY_IS%.
It would be useless in any common application, but who knows how someone uses their own metadata?
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i don't use mapping, or i try not to use it, beyond the 3 default maps it comes with. instead i enable multiple columns for all the ratings types i am aware of. this also keeps me from making a mistake of possibly entering an invalid value for the different format types. (needing to know the format type to use for data entry kinda invalidates the purpose of trying to make a single column for all ratings, doesn't it? or what am i missing?)
Nothing. I can see the value in your approach.
You do it your way and I do it my way. "Variety is the spice of life."

I don't use any columns for ratings in Mp3tag. Instead I use 1 field in the Tag Panel.
Even an old fart like me can remember to use 1-5 for MP3 and 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 for FLAC.
I rarely rate songs and certainly not in the conventional way.
For example, 3 stars mean I've burned the track for my sister and me, while 2 stars mean I've burned it for my sister only. All of my Winamp Smart Views filter out tracks with 5 stars.

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