Old 21st October 2007, 17:49   #1
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Station with NAZI-Music

In the Shoutcast-list is a radionstadio which plays racist and fascistic music: "Heimattreu-radio 88". The 88 ist a code for "Heil Hitler" (H is the 8th letter in the alphabet).

I think that Shoutcast shouldn't help to spread these kind of thinking.
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Old 21st October 2007, 17:57   #2
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its called freedom of speech, press, religion, and assembly; or the first amendment rights.

Agree with this station or not, they are protected by american rights to be able to do this ... no one said you had to listen to it.
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Old 21st October 2007, 19:53   #3
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And don't post this shit

you are now only giving them free advertising.

Ignore it , it won't go away but it won't get attention.

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Old 21st October 2007, 20:23   #4
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You are not forced to listen to it, just pass it by.

Your mileage may vary!
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Old 28th October 2007, 21:53   #5
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Freedom of Speech may be a US law - Although the terms of use for this forum does state that no Racism is tolerated, and there is no legal obligation to 'facilitate' the practice of the first amendment - particularly when it is internationally available and is criminal activity under, for example, UK "incitement of racial hatred" legislation.

Perhaps a Forum moderator can blank out the details on the Forum and check details about the hosting of the station, particularly if there are any comments on the show which would fall into the illegal category? I don't really feel like checking it out myself.
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Old 29th October 2007, 04:42   #6
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Forums are not related to the SHOUTcast listing. And really, if you don't like the content of a stream, don't listen to it.

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Nullsoft, Inc. and its parent company, AOL LLC, are not responsible for the content of any broadcast. Nullsoft, Inc. believes in the First Amendment to the US Constitution and will not review or censure any broadcast. Those who listen to any broadcast listed or served herein assume all risk of being offended or suffering any other form of damage.
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Old 21st January 2008, 19:10   #7
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Thank you sawg for putting the words, 'Nazi', 'USA', and 'Pretty' in the same thread.

Thank you even more for supporting the rights of Nazis in the name of the american constitution. Thankfully american patriotism is matched with European activism.

The details of the radio show were passed to the European Anti Racism Network and Jugenschutz, the German counterpart of the International Network against Cyber Hate. Looks like they've had less of a free run of things recently.

Thank you for the thread Mamu1980.
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Old 21st January 2008, 20:17   #8
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We may not agree with the messages of that station, but until it breaks a law there is nothing that anyone in the USA can do.

We had this same discussion at work about our student radio station, and decided that until it steps out of bounds, there is nothing that we can or should do for any of the content on our station. That includes preaching the Nazi way, or any other "subversive" creedo. Thankfully we also try to enforce the "Safe Harbour" FCC rules, so it would give a little more leverage to put down something that crosses a line. Thankfully we have not had anyone want to preach the Nazi creedo, or any other subversive or hateful crap.

And if you can get some other country's might to put down that station because it conflicts with the beliefs of a vast majority of people, then more power to you. But it is not what The Constituion of the United States was written to protect. And in this same line of thinking, is it alright for the government to sensor the thoughts of its citizens? Like what happens in China? There is a reason that there are a lot of anonimous proxy servers in China, and that is so that they can get a clear voice and not have to worry about government persecution.

So what I am saying is that repressing this station is a two edged sword, and it can cut both ways.

Your mileage may vary!
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And since this whole topic deals with a racist concept, maybe the whole thread should be removed!

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Old 21st January 2008, 22:33   #10
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Agreed its a waste of space.

Bitchlist or Bin....it has no purpose here
I've reported it so hopefully a mod will move it.
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Old 21st January 2008, 22:55   #11
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I vote for bin. We'll have fun with it down there.
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Thank you sawg for putting the words, 'Nazi', 'USA', and 'Pretty' in the same thread.

Thank you even more for supporting the rights of Nazis in the name of the american constitution. Thankfully american patriotism is matched with European activism.

So you are allowed to have free speech and sawg is not?

I think that is a little unfair aswell.

Sawg was merely stating unbiased facts about how it is,,
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