Old 30th January 2002, 11:13   #1
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Making me a mod?

Hi here I really don't know where to post this thread. THe General Discussion seem to me to have a lack of winamp content. I know it not really a subject for the forum but I figured you guy would know.

I am one of the few people who frequents the MilkDrop forums. Nos 81-84.

Now these forums do not have a mod for them. They are getting really busy now - dispite no link from the forum homepage.

And as I spend probably more time than anyone in there I would like to offer my services as a mod of these forums. Sometimes things get posted to the wrong boards, etc. It is slowly getting busier too so it would be an idea now to have a mod now rather then later when it is more cluttered.

Do I have to take a blood oath and something to be a mod and what is entailed. I already try to help everyone out there and when needed keep the peace

Please let me know.
If you need to email me do so at rovastar@hotmail.com

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PS You may as well make me a mod for the Smoke forums too (125-127) but no-one really goes there though.

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Old 30th January 2002, 11:21   #2
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you'll need to ask steve

I don't think that you'll get anything here (unless mod's move this to the big unknown mod area)

I agree that a mod should visit those forums
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Old 30th January 2002, 11:37   #4
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thanks for the speedy reply folks.

Me confused aren't your mods:

DJEgg, Ice, Mr.Ice, peter, Reverend Ike and Xerxes. That is what it says about your forum???!??!

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Old 30th January 2002, 11:44   #5
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thanks for the speedy reply folks.

Me confused aren't your mods:

DJEgg, Ice, Mr.Ice, peter, Reverend Ike and Xerxes. That is what it says about your forum???!??!
I'm afraid I'm not the only one who can't understand what the hell you mean.
Could you please reformulate ?
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Old 30th January 2002, 11:51   #6
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I am stupid or soimething?? Or missing the point.

Goto

http://forums.winamp.com/

There is a table with the headings

Forums, Posts , Threads, Last Posts, Moderator.


ANsd under this forums is that list of mods?

Twilight you are a mod of winamp world dom - and I right.
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You lot are confusing me now???

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Old 30th January 2002, 11:55   #7
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universal floating mods

being a mod means being a mod of the entire forum

e.g http://forums.winamp.com

not just a certain area

not anymore anyway

the names at the top don't mean much anymore
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Old 30th January 2002, 11:58   #8
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WARocker is right.
The names on top of the forums is a remnant of the older UBB version where each mod had to be assigned to a particular forum.
Now, each mod can moderate all boards
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Old 30th January 2002, 12:02   #9
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And that means we even have got powers in the MilkDrop forums. I vistit the forums sometimes. So far I never have seen anything offending or something that need to be locked. And if you see a post that really needs our attention there's always this option in the right bottom of the post:

Report this post to a moderator

You always can give it a shot though. But I think that there's a very little chance that you'll get a moderator. (no personal offense!)
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Old 30th January 2002, 12:05   #10
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I am stupid or soimething?? Or missing the point.

Goto

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ANsd under this forums is that list of mods?

Twilight you are a mod of winamp world dom - and I right.
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Old 30th January 2002, 12:09   #11
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I am stupid or soimething?? Or missing the point.

Goto

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ANsd under this forums is that list of mods?

Twilight you are a mod of winamp world dom - and I right.
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You lot are confusing me now???
Your copy/paste function works fine, indeed.
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Old 30th January 2002, 12:16   #12
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WTF happened there on my last post. Dunno.

ANyway,

How am I suppose to know that FFS!!!!!!! lol!!!!!!
That is just stupid!!!!!

Binary confused me more with
if he gets to be a mod, we should too.

But how often do mods go on those boards?

I don't want to report posts so much just tidy them up put things in right sections, etc. I imagine, and no disrepect here, that you may not know where is realevant to move things too and duplicate posts in these forums. Unless you know about them in detail like I would do?

MilkDrop is a NullSoft product. So who would I speak to then to get this sorted.

I would email Ryan who would could shout across the office and get it sorted but I don't want to distract him from completing his new version of MD.

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the word NO!! does, at this point, spring to mind.



just say no..

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Jess what a lot of abuse for a simple request I understand that you lot must get requests for being a mod all the time.

But how many of you mods have even posted on the 7 forums mentioned. Did you even know they existed?? If so how do you moderate them.

I thought that my request was a bit different. I understand that the best way is not to ask but you lot seem to have taken it personally.

If you do not use the forums how do you know if any posts need moving etc. Should I email you if a post need moving mods.

If fact when i did post a request a move (I found a post on another forum) when trying to help someone a bit ago it was ignored it seems:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=72419

I understandably thought that each forums has it own mod and ours didn't have one! Well I will have 7 forums to moderate I think more than 1 person is really needed to be honest.

It seem you have all just said no without even considering the request. It doesn't have to be ME just someone that understands MilkDrop as a mod. You lot are welcome to learn. But I truely think the request is a valid one I am not a powermonger like some of you seem to be I am just trying to be helpful. If any of you went on these formus you would know this is the case.

I have found you, so far, unhelpful. You could have at least said I will ask someone or ask this person here the email. Do you not think a mod may be needed? The other day someone posted AVS presets to our forum it would have been nice to move them to the correct forum. It really isn't worth the bother of emailing you mods for that is it?

Oh well I didn't want to email Ryan but I have done now hopefully something will be sorted soon. To be honest I didn't want to do that I wanted to do it myself and thought you lot been mods coiuld help me. If someone came of the mD forums I would do my best to help them out.

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Old 30th January 2002, 13:24   #15
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the word NO!! does, at this point, spring to mind.



just say no..
It does?

(Oh. You edited your post)

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Old 30th January 2002, 13:42   #16
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rovastar production line..

for a goodnights sleep, choose the
brand you know and trust, Rovastar.
if you experince side effects such as headaches and/or death, contact your doctor imediatly.
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Old 30th January 2002, 14:10   #17
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The truth is, no matter how good you are at providing TS or other help, it doesn't make a fuck of a difference. Have fun as a member, because you'll never be a mod.
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Old 30th January 2002, 14:24   #18
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OK I am having fun as a member and I never even metioned TS. I understand that if you are tech is does not make you a good mod. What will make a good mod is making the community grow by being helpful and friendly.

I think you are missing the point here. Please (re-)read my posts.

So who at the moment tidies up these forums when things are posted in the wrong place. It is not a tech support issue. All I am really suggesting is someone with MilkDrop knowledge needs to be a mod?

It is a simple request and everyone is turning it into some kind of flame war?

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Old 30th January 2002, 14:32   #19
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the moderators clean things up, seer, mr jones, to name but a few. They do a damn fine job too, and no, i wont read over your posts again, its like seeing a black cat cross your path twice, only more annouying and less gramatically correct
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why do you want to be a mod so badly anyway? Haven't you paid any attention to all the crap that's been going around? There aren't really all that many advantages to being a mod.
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Old 30th January 2002, 14:39   #21
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It's not a flame war at all. No one insulted you as far as I know.
It's all good fun, don't take things too seriously

[warning for Rovastar : sarcasm mode on]Btw, raydream, are you still interested in modding the milkdrop forums ?[warning for Rovastar : sarcasm mode off]
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Old 30th January 2002, 14:39   #22
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rovastar, i want to assatain how much you know;

1: 1+1=
2: winamp is used for a: music b:biological warfare
3: the capitol of peru
4: the chemical name for ferric oxide (clue, its my skin, called fe2o3)
5: moderator status is seeked by you for a)bragging rigths, b) usefullness

you will be marked out of 100%, the test lasts 4 replies and starts now, no talking to othersor using calculators.
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Old 30th January 2002, 14:49   #23
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It honestly is not such a big deal to me. I thought I will try and help. Only recently a couple of days ago DJEgg added the MD forums to the FAQ for Winamp don't think he know they existed. Not that I am having a go at him mind. I am just commenting of the lack of mods in these 7 forums. If all this thread achieves is that they have a greater awareness of these boards then at least that is a start.

I didn't realise that there was such a power trip involved here. Are my suggestions unreasonable for someone to be mod with knowledge of these forums? It doesn't have to be me just someone that understands what happens on those 7 forums mentioned. As a regular user of these forums they are starting to get in a bit of a mess. Maybe some sticky posts could be added to them to help the newbies as well.

It is not just me the other regular think so too.

raydream, At least the grammar jibe of yours was funny unlike your previous posts.

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Old 30th January 2002, 14:59   #24
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It honestly is not such a big deal to me. I thought I will try and help. Only recently a couple of days ago DJEgg added the MD forums to the FAQ for Winamp don't think he know they existed. Not that I am having a go at him mind.

It is not just me the other regular think so too.

raydream, At least the grammar jibe of yours was funny unlike your previous posts.
nice.. ::
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Old 30th January 2002, 15:01   #25
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I understand seer. Is where you are from the Church Of Sector 7 somewhere near Lima? I am in London, England.

1. 2
2. I think only a) but I am working on b) but might be another 6 months.
3. How am I ment to know that what a stupid question.I don't know. Does it really matter for WinAmp.
4. Formula Fe2O3
Molecular mass 159.70 g/mol
Density 5.24 g/cm3
Melting point 1565°C
CAS-No. 1309-37-1
EINECS-No. 2151682

Ferric oxides are often added to coatings and foundry moulding materials in order to suppress casting defects like pinholes. By the delivery of oxygen with T>1200°C free hydrogen and nitrogen can be bind. Castings defects resulting from thermal expansion are reduced by the addition of ferric oxide to the moulding material, because the thermal expansion of the moulding material is reduced. Usually a-Fe2O3 (hematite), a-FeOOH (goethite) bzw. g-FeOOH (lepidikrokite) with specific surfaces >10m2/g are used. Ferric oxide may show sperical, plate-like or needle-like shape depending upon type of production and may be also used as a rheologic additive.

That was easy.

5. Initially totally b) but since this post has gone on a) look nice to

How did I score?

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Old 30th January 2002, 15:03   #26
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Good sense of humour, Rovastar.

Now everybody will get along

PS : Church Of Sector 7 is a reference to a videogame...
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Old 30th January 2002, 15:07   #27
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1, correct
2, correct
3, n/a
4, i asked for an answer, not a copy paste from this page , so you loose the mark.
5, only half correct since you chose both.

1 mark = 20%
you total 2.5 marks
Total % = 50%
your grade = C

only people with a's can be a mod sorry :P
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OK glad the air is cleared.

What a shame I didn't pass the Mod test.

If only I know question 3. It would have made me a b. So nearly there.

BTW

4, i asked for an answer, now a copy paste from this page , so you loose the mark.

Nuff said

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Old 30th January 2002, 15:15   #29
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NO fair editing your mistakes, Ray

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Enough said *


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Old 30th January 2002, 17:43   #31
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Only recently a couple of days ago DJEgg added the MD forums to the FAQ for Winamp don't think he know they existed. Not that I am having a go at him mind.
FYI, the Mildrop Forum links have been in TSGH -> Useful Links since the very first day they appeared . . . ie. many months now. Please get your facts right.
Many of the mods visit the Milkdrop & Smoke forums, including me when I've got the time, but Tech Support for Winamp is my top priority.

Right now, we have more than enough mods . . . too many imho.
People don't nominate themselves.
The current mods make recommendations, and admin decides from thereon.

I'm moving this to Bitchlist (or BotchList, if there was one )
It has no place in the Tech Forums.

The Egg has spoken.
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Old 30th January 2002, 18:47   #32
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DJ Egg,

You seem a little pissed with me. Do you think I am out of order? Is that why you moved this thread? In all fairness mate I wasn't going to start this thread under a bitchlist tag.
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You said:
FYI, the Mildrop Forum links have been in TSGH -> Useful Links since the very first day they appeared . . . ie. many months now. Please get your facts right.
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The reason I metioned that was because of
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=72943
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Where you said:
And cheers for the info Rovastar. I'll add these links to TSGH -> Useful Links
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You imply that you have added MilkDrop forums after I have told you about them. If not what did you add?

Maybe I am mistaken. But I can find no other post that relates to this actual problem there? Did I get my facts wrong??

FYI the smoke forums are not on there at all.

Anyway I still think my points are valid about these forums.
You said
but Tech Support for Winamp is my top priority.

the point I am trying to make is that for these 7 forums there is no-one really looks at them at all. If someone was a mod that know about these forums them that would be their priority.

I don't know but each mod will have something that they class as a priority. Say AVS. These 7 forums combined are busier than AVS.

There have been posts on these boards that need moving etc.
I am just a concerned user of these forums and I don't want to see them going downhill, I thought I was doing the good thing by offering my services. I am unaware of the etiquette of becoming a mod in this winamp world.

But if the MOds don't go on the MilkDrop forums e.g. don't post then how will a MilkDrop 'person' get nominated if they don't ask? I am trying to intergrate the 2 seperate groups together.

I don't want to sound like I am bitching but I appears that no-one has sensibly addressed any of the points that I have made.

I think (thought (joking)) of you as a fair man so I look forward to your response. I don't want to upset anyone.

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what exactly needs to be 'modded' in those forums anyway? from your earlier posts it seems that you just want to 'organize' stuff. mods dont really organize, apart from in TS.
Its more locking threads, deleteing posts and hammering abusers.

since traffic in those forums is limited, i can only assume that any needs for this is limited aswell. as has been pointed out, clicking the report a post button will work anyway.

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Craig,

Hi,

The more I get replies from the mods the more I feel the need for one these forums. Have you been to this part of the [meaning MilkDrop edited] Winamp community? That was meant to sound off I am just wondering if you know what these forums are about as you said.
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mods dont really organize, apart from in TS.
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There are 2 troubleshooting forums (TS) out of the 7 here. By your own implication a mod is need to move stuff. And who knows what is relevant about Smoke and MD community?

Also 2 feature request forums.

2 comment forums and a preset forum like AVS where people post presets. There is nothing on winamp.com site to submit them. This is really busy (84)


Most of it IS about moving stuff. Locking dead threads, Maybe sticky posts when a new version of these plug-ins comes out or FAQ for the 2 troubleshooting forums or most requested wish list. Stuff that would benefit the whole community. There seem to be a big them and us with MD/Smoke and the rest of the forums. Also I want to help to bridge the gap.

Traffic in these forums is not that limited either. If you add the totals up it is a pretty busy collection of forums. Like now when a new beta is out it gets really busy - the biggest problem has been spreading the word. These are getting busier all the time OK not so much the smoke ones they are dead but they are related. Smoke and MD are nullsoft plug-ins by Ryan Geiss who works at NullSoft now. He doesn't have time to go on these forums much otherwise he would be the ideal choice.

There is little abuse yet we self moderate them. Me and a couple of others. But I may need to delete threads and or posts.
An AVSer posted presets there the other day and it would have been nice to move them to the correct forum.

I honestly didn't think it would be this much hassle to get be a mod. I am trying to help out. It is not a power thing.

Am I being unreasonable?

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Old 30th January 2002, 20:57   #35
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I added the link to TSGH about Geforce3 drivers.
It had nothing to do with Milkdrop, it could've been any vis plugin.
The problem related to Geforce3 drivers. That is what I added.
Like I said, Milkdrop section has been there for months and I've even posted a few times myself in Milkdrop forums.

Ok, there's no link to Smoke forums.
This is because when Milkdrop forums first appeared, mods still had access to the Control Panel, so I was aware that the Milkdrop forums existed. The Smoke forums have been introduced more recently, after CP access was removed, therefore I didn't even know they existed. Too bad, eh ?!?!

If Ryan wanted the Winamp mods to moderate his forums, then I'm sure he'd make it known to us. But by keeping them private with no link on the forums homepage, then it's basically up to Ryan to moderate his own forums himself.
Naturally, if he offered to pay us something, we might reconsider.
Remember, the winamp mods are voluntary helpers, ie. unpaid.

Go bitch at Ryan.
There's nothing we can do about it.

Besides, although Ryan is now officially part of Team Nullsoft, and Milkdrop and Smoke are both considered to be Nullsoft plugins, neither of them are included with the default Winamp setup. Maybe one day when they are, then the situation might change.

btw, I'm not adding Smoke forums to TSGH either. Not just yet anyway. So far I've not seen anyone post any requests for help with the Smoke plugin in the regular forums. If it becomes regular, then I'll reconsider. The main reason links to MD forums are in TSGH is to let people know where to post MD related problems (ie. don't post problems about MD in main WA forums). To be honest, it's got very little to do with winamp mods. Ryan has it set up this way . . . maybe for a reason, who knows ?!?! Go speak to him instead. Though really, you should've posted this in the MD forums where it belongs. Maybe Ryan might've seen it then, 'cos I doubt if he visits any of the other forums too often.

Anyway, there's been a reference to this thread backstage (I won't say what or where exactly, hehe), so maybe admin are now aware of the situation?
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DJEgg,

That explains the previous post a little

But at the time I could not find any reference to the link(s) on that page
The TSGH
http://forums.winamp.com/newreply.php?threadid=73919

Infact still can't. Where are they? So that is way I presumed it was the MD forums link you were talking about.OK.

The Smoke forums link is not really needed, they are really quiet. I have only seen one post in the other forums for this myself. Link posted up earlier in the thread and where I requested it moved.

Grrrrh....I am not bitching ffs but I have already emailed Ryan to suggest I help out. Initialy I did think that each forum has it's own mods (that all I wanted to mod anyway) as that is how they are listed. That is stupid of me eh?

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Maybe Ryan might've seen it then, 'cos I doubt if he visits any of the other forums too often.
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lol How little you know Ryan, he rarely goes on the MD forums.

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Anyway, there's been a reference to this thread backstage (I won't say what or where exactly, hehe), so maybe admin are now aware of the situation?
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That sounds worrying you lot ganging up on me in a private room. I was outnumbered enough on these main forums. Having to defend my corner all the time. You just probably thought another pain in the arse wannabe mod. People could have been more friendly initally though.

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Old 1st February 2002, 05:14   #37
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Hehe, you're right, I've not even added the actual section to TSGH -> Useful Links yet. It's just in the text file version on my HDD, for future reference.

Nvidia Geforce3/Detonator driver problems (fullscreen vis freezing / mp3 playback slow)
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=71731
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=72943

I've got loads of links like this in the text version which aren't in the html version. The txt file is currently 145kb, so I dread to think how large the html version would end up being. LOL

Anyway . . . good news . . .
There's gonna be a new forums homepage layout comin' soon, with direct links to both MD & Smoke forums. That's what's being discussed backstage, possibly partly as a result of this thread. So stop gettin' paranoid my friend

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DJ Egg,

Thanks for the update.

No paranoia here my friend. I know it is all good.

BTW

Quote 1 by you.

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I added the link to TSGH about Geforce3 drivers.
It had nothing to do with Milkdrop, it could've been any vis plugin.
The problem related to Geforce3 drivers. That is what I added.
and Quote 2 by you
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Originally posted by DJEgg
Please get your facts right.
You said it!

Sorry I could not resist.

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Rovastar,
There are other eligible people to be a mod in the future. You're on the list to be one of them, so am I. So just be patient and wait your turn. Your day will come.

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