Top 3 Republican Presidential Candidates

[gaekwad2]

So I heard the Trump campaign is seriously understaffed. This fine young man would be a perfect addition.

[DJ-Garybaldy]

[gaekwad2]

Nice and orange.

[webthing]

[gaekwad2]

He'll share his coke stash?

[gaekwad2]

Watching everybody feign surprise after the pussy video: Priceless

[webthing]

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[webthing]

[webthing]

That's not going to happen.



I think it just did.

[gaekwad2]

Originally Posted by webthing

https://mobile.twitter.com/txorres/s...30226052079616

[webthing]

Newt Gingrich on Trumps Gettysburg speech





Donald Trump speech in Gettysburg, PA Oct 22, 2016, Foreign Policy, First 100 Day Plan

[webthing]

Michael Moore Makes Case For Voting Trump



Nailed it.

[webthing]

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[swingdjted]

My country's electoral college just elected the most insulting candidate that has ever run in the 38 years I have been alive. This does not reflect the will of the voting citizens. The popular vote had an entirely different outcome. Please, if you are watching us from another country, understand that we don't all agree with what is happening here.

[gaekwad2]

As long as the country willingly goes along with it...

But maybe if someone reminds him of

[iomegajaz]

Wow, America. Wow. I really thought you'd hit rock bottom with W in 2000.

[gaekwad2]

Put simply, Democrats knowingly chose to nominate a deeply unpopular, extremely vulnerable, scandal-plagued candidate, who — for very good reason — was widely perceived to be a protector and beneficiary of all the worst components of status quo elite corruption. It’s astonishing that those of us who tried frantically to warn Democrats that nominating Hillary Clinton was a huge and scary gamble — that all empirical evidence showed that she could lose to anyone and Bernie Sanders would be a much stronger candidate, especially in this climate — are now the ones being blamed: by the very same people who insisted on ignoring all that data and nominating her anyway.

But that’s just basic blame shifting and self-preservation. Far more significant is what this shows about the mentality of the Democratic Party. Just think about who they nominated: someone who — when she wasn’t dining with Saudi monarchs and being feted in Davos by tyrants who gave million-dollar checks — spent the last several years piggishly running around to Wall Street banks and major corporations cashing in with $250,000 fees for 45-minute secret speeches even though she had already become unimaginably rich with book advances while her husband already made tens of millions playing these same games. She did all that without the slightest apparent concern for how that would feed into all the perceptions and resentments of her and the Democratic Party as corrupt, status quo-protecting, aristocratic tools of the rich and powerful: exactly the worst possible behavior for this post-2008-economic-crisis era of globalism and destroyed industries.

It goes without saying that Trump is a sociopathic con artist obsessed with personal enrichment: the opposite of a genuine warrior for the downtrodden. That’s too obvious to debate. But, just as Obama did so powerfully in 2008, he could credibly run as an enemy of the D.C. and Wall Street system that has steamrolled over so many people, while Hillary Clinton is its loyal guardian, its consummate beneficiary.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Also, politics aside, there was exactly one candidate who was actually willing to listen to others and treat opponents with respect rather than smug condescension: crazy jewish grandpa. Goes to show that when you're surrounded by sociopaths normal decent behaviour will look totally crazy.

In terms of foreign policy, which is what matters most to at least 95.6% of the world after all, there's not much in it. In fact there is an ever so remote chance that Trump may even be slightly less fucked up than Kissinger endorsee and friend of the Saudis Clinton (though I won't bet on it).

[webthing]

[swingdjted]

Originally Posted by webthing

Michael Moore Makes Case For Voting Trump



Nailed it.

...except that this isn't at all the message was given in reality...

This is the problem with modern social media. It's bullshit. Total utter bullshit that is believed by gullible, willfully uninformed (a.k.a. stupid, by definition), lazy people, unwilling to search for truth, that support rating-and-view-baiting on-screen controversy over ethical journalism. Watch the actual, non-edited video. The above is edited and taken grossly out of context. It's just unbelievable that people don't question deceit like this after knowing Michael Moore's stand on everything prior to all of this. I'm not a major fan of his, but I felt the need to give an example of how easy it is to debunk the bullshit that is out there.

Vote for whomever you want, but get your facts straight first...

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/27...-michael-moore

[gaekwad2]

B..but FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!§!!314159!!

Seriously, it's all a product of treating everything somebody says, no matter how ignorant and blatantly wrong, as opinion which is just as valid as everybody else's, no it's actually more valid because they're able to attract a large audience and you're not. It's not just youtube or other places on the net that work that way, talk radio has been like doing it for decades.

...and in the end, the biggest attention whore wins.

[swingdjted]

And those attention whores are on both sides.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/09...p-election-win

Because people know how lazy readers are, they will tell a lie (in this case showing a false quote) in a headline and bury the truth in a wall of text.

[gaekwad2]

That's an old tabloid trick (that more and more "serious" papers are resorting to as well, while babbling about "quality journalism" that must be supported).

This is interesting though:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/c...ers-rust-belt/

Especially as democrats are now blaming the very people whose votes they took for granted.

(I still object to calling democrats (or liberals in general) "the other side" though, at best they're the good cop to the republicans' bad one.)

[swingdjted]

I would agree to that writer. Clinton was not a very good match for what democrats wanted even if they did vote for her. She couldn't keep her record clean, she had an arrogant personality, she was bought by the rich, and possessed too many of the negative traits of career politicians. Sanders didn't have these problems, or at least not to her level. His biggest problems were a lack of willingness to disclose costs associated with his proposals and having a bit of a senile demeanor.

[webthing]

• Stars who had said they would quit America if he won have abandoned their promises before President-elect Trump is even inaugurated
• Those who made hasty U-turns include Miley Cyrus, Whoopi Goldberg, Amy Schumer, Bryan Cranston and Chelsea Handler




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-tax-cuts.html

[WhoseLineFan]

Originally Posted by webthing

• Stars who had said they would quit America if he won have abandoned their promises before President-elect Trump is even inaugurated
• Those who made hasty U-turns include Miley Cyrus, Whoopi Goldberg, Amy Schumer, Bryan Cranston and Chelsea Handler




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-tax-cuts.html

I guess that a lot of people don't like Trump then.

[webthing]

President Trump’s executive orders in full

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president...224424294.html

[iomegajaz]

Originally Posted by webthing

President

"You keep using that word; I don't think it means what you think it means."

[iomegajaz]

My posts in this thread, circa 2015-2016 leading up to the US presidential election, comprise an unmitigated embarrassment of riches embarrassments. I had no fucking idea what I was talking about. Holy shit. Get a load of the fucking hubris on this guy (me).

I can only offer my sincerest apologies to my conservative fellow forumers. I knew not of what I spoke, all of which was through my hat.

I almost don't want to necro this thread, to save myself the embarrassment of seeing it again near the top of the GD thread list; but I need to own my past and this is part of it. Oof, as the kids say. Yikes.

[iomegajaz]

MOVING ON…

Who do we like for 2024? Tulsi? Paul? Zodiak? Wasn't Nikki Hayley being mooted at some point?