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View Poll Results: Want a DELETE button?
YES, give me a button to delete the active file! 4 25.00%
No no, I will hate such a button! 3 18.75%
I don't care, or, I don't know... 3 18.75%
We already have such an feature, dummy! 6 37.50%
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Old 25th February 2008, 21:29   #1
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Easy option to Delete File

It is far too difficult to delete files via Winamp 5.52. One has to read the file name, open the big window and navigate to the file, before it is possible to delete it. This takes much too long time, I think. I import all sorts of music files, but there are of course some that I don't like, but I don't know that for sure before I am actually PLAYING the file, do I. And it is when playing it that I will know that I don't wanna keep this file but would like to delete it right now before it has finished playing and disappears.

I want a button, an easy option to delete the active file, with option to delete from playlist or even from the machine. Please!?
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Old 26th February 2008, 19:01   #2
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h ttp://ww w.winamp.com/plugins/details/141713 is the thing!
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Old 25th March 2008, 06:57   #3
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RE:

I agree that this plugin solves the problem, but WHY plugin for this simple and so common operation? I think it would be better to implement this into Winamp...

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Old 25th March 2008, 12:42   #4
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It might be even better to implement the plugin itself, because File Deleter v2 really is good!

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Old 23rd June 2011, 19:48   #5
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I wish a button (in the tray area) to delete a track too! Until now I used the plugin "Advanced Controls" but this function isn't working anymore in Win7...
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Old 23rd June 2011, 20:49   #6
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you could instead of a notification icon button use a global hotkey using playlist file remover. though i thought advanced controls had been updated to support Windows 7,

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Old 23rd June 2011, 21:17   #7
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Thanks ... but is this tool really deleting a track from the harddisk or just removing it from the playlist? I can't see any appropriate option!?

Yes, Advanced Controls has been updated for Win7 but this deletion function just don't work because of some "permissions" (and I already tried it out by running Winamp with admin rights).
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Old 23rd June 2011, 21:19   #8
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second preference page, top option enables physical removal control. though i'm not sure how well it's going to work if you don't have the required permissions (haven't really used it on Vista / Win 7 with UAC enabled).

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Old 23rd June 2011, 21:31   #9
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Ok thanks. Maybe I should give it a try.
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Old 2nd July 2011, 12:05   #10
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(haven't really used it on Vista / Win 7 with UAC enabled).
UAC is only got to get in the way if you have your music files stored somewhere perverse like C:\Windows or C:\Program Files.

Music tracks stored in the normal user folder like My Music will be deletable without any extra rights. The User is allowed to do whatever they like to their own files. UAC just protects the system from damage, not the user.

I get confused by these requests in Winamp for a "Delete Button". IMHO - Winamp is a library for organising your tracks, so it should not need destructive buttons that can be hit in error. If I want to delete a track I use the Media Library and do a RIGHT CLICK \ Explore Item Folder. This way I can then trash a whole album if I want.
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Old 3rd July 2011, 10:24   #11
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My files aren't stored in a directory you mentioned. I even stored my music files on another harddisc, but I have this permission issue...

The way through the Media Library is kind of long. You always have to search first for a file you where already listening to!
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Old 21st July 2011, 23:13   #12
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I like it, but
there should be fool-proof SAFETY MEASURES to avoid accidentally deleting a file
(even if you are drunk, it's dark and you try to play some music with winamp :-)
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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:12   #13
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....there is always the Windows bin where you could restore "deleted" files!
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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:14   #14
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the default behaviour of Winamp and my plug-in are to use the recycle-bin just for that exact reason. people can change that option to be a full delete, but that has to be explicitly selected (for both things).

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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:19   #15
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hey daz ... why isn't your plug-in listed on Winamp.com?
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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:37   #16
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the default behaviour of Winamp and my plug-in are to use the recycle-bin just for that exact reason. people can change that option to be a full delete, but that has to be explicitly selected (for both things).
sorry, but that's a nonsensical argument. If you notice the unwanted deletion, you wouldn't carry it out in the first place. And if you didn't notice the deletion, the recycle bin isn't of any help.


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....there is always the Windows bin where you could restore "deleted" files!
... NOT if you didn't notice the deletion.
... NOT if the recycle bin is disabled.
... NOT if the recycle bin is full.
etc.

The recycle bin is a fallback for the worst-case scenario, which might or might not work. But it should definitely not be an integral part of the programming logic and design.
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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:38   #17
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Mala: it was listed on there many years ago but i removed it when i almost quit plug-in development (and also because the submission system at the time was broken). ironically there is no (available) submission system now so it'll never get listed on there.

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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:42   #18
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.... that's a nonsensical argument. If you notice the unwanted deletion, you wouldn't carry it out in the first place. And if you didn't notice the deletion, the recycle bin isn't of any help.
well based on however many years of doing things Winamp related, people do delete their files and then decide that they didn't want to, hence using the recycle bin by default.

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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:45   #19
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well based on however many years of doing things Winamp related, people do delete their files and then decide that they didn't want to, hence using the recycle bin by default.
well it's sure better than nothing, I give you that, but it doesn't cover cases of unnoticed deletion.

So users must be able to opt-out of that possible risk, then it would be fine.
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Old 22nd July 2011, 17:56   #20
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Simple answer - just go to your backup and get the music back from there. If you use a computer drunk and don't have backups of your important files, you are asking for trouble.

Personally I store my music on a Read Only server meaning it is impossible to do any deletes. When I want to change the music around, or edit TAGs, etc I just login to the server and do it from there.
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Old 22nd July 2011, 19:05   #21
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well it's sure better than nothing, I give you that, but it doesn't cover cases of unnoticed deletion.

So users must be able to opt-out of that possible risk, then it would be fine.
Yes, opt-out would be a good solution...
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Old 22nd July 2011, 21:37   #22
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It is far too difficult to delete files via Winamp 5.52.
personally, using 5.621, i find that using the ML right click method, which sends real deletes to the recycle bin, with a confirmation, to be absolutely PERFECT and i don't see any need to change it at all.

designing software to overcome the illogical action of drunks, is to me, a fools errand.

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Old 23rd July 2011, 02:09   #23
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sorry but how does this "ML right click method" work? what is "ML"?
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Old 23rd July 2011, 02:15   #24
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ML = media library

thats where i delete files in winamp, via right click.

i think with a DrO plugin u can do it from the scratch playlist pane too, but i use the ML.

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Old 23rd July 2011, 12:08   #25
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well dude thanks for sharing this even i was not aware of this
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