Old 14th July 2003, 08:03   #1
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The latest new sexual identity crisis: People who long to be amputees.

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Old 14th July 2003, 08:09   #2
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I read something similar to this. It ws about men who had a fetish about having their testicles removed. But some had a reason. Like one man said he wanted it done because he had an STD and no longer wanted a sex drive.

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Old 14th July 2003, 17:24   #3
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Old 14th July 2003, 17:35   #4
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I think I saw this on MSNBC. This guy wanted his leg amputated so bad that he shot his leg off with a shotgun.
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Old 14th July 2003, 17:36   #5
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umm.m..ok, yeah

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Old 14th July 2003, 17:40   #6
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Old 14th July 2003, 18:53   #7
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Although I try to be tolerant and understanding to people who think and act very different than me, I must say that my first thought of this was "What the ... ???" since it is so contrary to my own opinion.
I'm undescribably happy about the fact that I wasn't born with any handicaps or grave diseases (especially after reading the medicine's dictionary "Pschyrembel" with many pictures of any disease there is - if you feel bad about yourself, read that and you'll be glad about the way you are) and there are people that lost a leg, an arm or even more who would give anything to be a "whole" person again..and here are these totally healthy people that give away their limbs some people would love to have...it seems ridiculous, but above all, unfair and made me very angry at first.

On the other hand, when thinking about it, why shouldn't they be allowed to become an amputee? There are so many people having a surgery nowadays to become "prettier" according to their views (some also to remove their "gender" to become the opposite one - which is also a lot more accepted in society than a few decades ago)...if someone wants to become an amputee because it really was their wish for decades, why not? Doctors shouldn't only help making their patients healthy but also happy or not? The only thing that I'd fear is that those people would really feel different about their situation in 5, 10, maybe 20 years, and what to do then? You can always take it off but putting it back on is (yet) impossible...good counseling and finding out if that was really the wish of the person should be mandatory before going to surgery....

However, this topic is really interesting in my opinion. Thank you for sharing this Xerxes , I'll try to get a copy of this movie sometimes!

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Old 15th July 2003, 01:55   #8
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interesting.... to play devil's advocate, who is to say that this isnt an alternative lifestyle? i personally consider it insane, but i would find it interesting to test society's limits for acceptane to se the reactions to this. it may very well be a mental disease that people would want to be like this, but will society accept people with this disease or shun them?

to delve even deeper into the acceptance vs. common decency quandary, think of pedophilia. it is a disease, a horrible thing to have or to be a victim of. now, society does not accept pedophiles as members of society, ranking them with child pornographers. Child pornographers and pedophiles have one subtle difference though. the pornographers choose their way of life, whereas the pedophiles are born with it. now, should society accept and try to treat and hopefully heal pedophiles, or shun them as it does now? additionally, is it possible for pedophiles to be accepted into the mainstream? i remind you, gays were once thought of in much the same way. i agree that there is a great difference between consensual homosexual acts and pedophilia, but still, should we accept these people into our hearts and try to treat them and their disease instead of demonizing them? (them can refer to pedophiles or amputee wannabees, whichever ou feel best answering) </uber-liberal devil's advocate>

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Old 15th July 2003, 02:02   #9
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Paedophiles sicken me, ruining a childs life for the sake of a few moments of pleasure, but that isn't the issue at hand. If people wish to mutilate their own bosy, it is their right and no-one can take that away from them. It is that simple. It's like getting a tattoo, only just that little bit more extreme. . What worries me is what kind of society produces people that have a "fetish" for removing their limbs?

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Old 15th July 2003, 05:56   #10
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I think that people with these strange mental disorders need love and healing much more than the rest of us do.
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Old 15th July 2003, 13:39   #11
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If they had their hands amputated, it'd make fisting a whole load smoother!
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Old 15th July 2003, 14:02   #12
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Meh. I don't care. I don't think we're going to get millions of people doing this. It's a few people and I don't really care as long as it is their decision to do it, ie not being forced.

Is peadaphillia really a disease? I find that hard to believe. It's just a clear choice someone makes - to fiddle or not to fiddle. I don't mind people being attracted to kids as long as they don't do anything about it.

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Old 15th July 2003, 14:06   #13
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So its Ok for someone to think about raping a small boy or girl in the ass while they are masturbating?
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Old 15th July 2003, 14:19   #14
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I'm not touching _that_ issue with a very extensive barge pole of some sort.

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Old 15th July 2003, 14:28   #15
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I don't see how only thinking about it does any harm. As I say it only becomes a problem when that fantasy is realised. I also don't see how a solution is to lock these people up (unless they have realised the fantasy), you're not going to be able to change their mind by doing that.

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Is peadaphillia really a disease? I find that hard to believe. It's just a clear choice someone makes - to fiddle or not to fiddle. I don't mind people being attracted to kids as long as they don't do anything about it.
exactly my point. is it their choice, or is it something that drives them? homosexuals (and in no way am i equating homosexuality with pedophilia, i am only using it as an example) have no choice as to their sexual orientation, so i would assume that neihther do pedophiles. in that case, i would opt to try to treat pedophiles rather than expect them to remain celibate on their own.

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Old 15th July 2003, 15:42   #17
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wow, how weird o.O

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Old 15th July 2003, 15:51   #18
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"if i had the choice i would be attracted to very ugly women with no personal hygeine, at least then i'd have a chance"

I think that sums up what i think about the whole "choice" issue.

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Old 15th July 2003, 16:53   #19
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Just thought I'd add this into the mix as well,for shitz and giggles..

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Old 15th July 2003, 17:00   #20
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Who _are_ these people who make these sites. . The kind of people who masturbate to foot cream commercials and sniff their socks after they take them off...

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Old 15th July 2003, 17:54   #21
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It's bad enogh when a person you know looses a limp by accident, or war, but to choose to mutilate yourself well, thats just nuts. There should be no room for discussion...unless ya' like ta' debate which way the frickin' wind will blow! As for pedophiles, that is not up for debate either...I don't think it's about sex, It's a sex power thing...
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yeah.. i really guess that more research is requierd before we can determine if it is a disease, or something learned, or a mental defect, or what...

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Just thought I'd add this into the mix as well,for shitz and giggles..

http://www.nbak.tierranet.com/main.htm

I almost thought that would have been that infamous "munging" link from way back...

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Ohh, munging, stop your making me hungry already
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