Old 28th May 2007, 16:40   #1
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Smile ml_iPod v3.00 released! YEAH

Hello everybody, a new milestone in ml_iPod's history is ready for download!

Version 3.00 - 05/28/2007

New features:
  • Complete redesign of the prefs UI (greatly improved usability)
  • Photo upload
  • Multi-User support (access levels for the iPod)
  • SPLs really query the iPod data now, not Winamp's library
  • Full video support (incl. video podcasts)
  • determine video type by folder
  • process iTunes 7.1 DBs without loosing playlists
  • option to automatically insert chapter markers to audiobooks
  • preserve iTunes podcasts if "handle podcasts" is off (FR:1685435)
  • special title formatting (ATF like)
  • don't lock MediaLibrary during transfer
  • option to autofill on connect
  • calculation of remaining time during transfer, based on transfer rate
  • preserve chapter data for audiobooks
  • option to autoselect iPod in ML on connect (default is off)
  • GUI to set option "auto-eject on close"
  • holding Shift while connecting puts iPod into read-only mode
  • database writing only during eject
  • a lot of bug fixes and minor improvements
Download here

A full list of all changes can be found in the change log.

A warm thanks to everybody who took part in the development process - as developer, tester, translator, documentation writer, donator, encourager...

Enjoy!

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Old 28th May 2007, 17:15   #2
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YIPPIE!!! THANKYOU!
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Old 28th May 2007, 17:26   #3
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Very nice, I'll try right away! Thank you!

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Old 28th May 2007, 18:02   #4
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If anybody feels like promoting this (letters to PC magazines, blogs...), feel free to do so!

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Old 28th May 2007, 18:32   #5
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The GUI redesign was a lot of work, but comparing it to 2.04 official, I can see that it really paid off!

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Old 28th May 2007, 20:33   #6
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One short question (did not find it in the docs): Is the GUI language configurable? Got used to the english one, so i wanna get rid of my german frontend :-).
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Old 28th May 2007, 20:40   #7
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Excellent guys, thank you very much!
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Old 28th May 2007, 20:57   #8
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One short question (did not find it in the docs): Is the GUI language configurable? Got used to the english one, so i wanna get rid of my german frontend :-).
Only at installation time. You'll ave to reinstall and choose English then.

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Old 28th May 2007, 22:45   #9
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Old 29th May 2007, 01:04   #10
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Excellent work chaps.

May I suggest posting a thread in the main WinAMP discussion forums, or is that likely to start a flame war?

Cheers, keep up the great work,
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May I suggest posting a thread in the main WinAMP discussion forums, or is that likely to start a flame war?
I don't know it they'll like it. If you want to do it, give it a try. But try to be a "correct" as possible (don't say pmp_ipod is crap), simply point out the different features, and include a link to http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/wiki/M...ersus_pmp_iPod

There is already a thread about pmp, maybe add it there, too? Just as a pointer for people still missing something in pmp_ipod.

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Perhaps I shall wait until the front page of ml_ipod website is updated.

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Good idea. SourceForge still has technical problems. Hope they'll fix it soon.

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Old 29th May 2007, 12:05   #14
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Great work! The fixes and new features are great, and I like the new preferences layout.

But I was wondering what "don't lock MediaLibrary during transfer" means. I assumed this meant that you'd be able to browse/play around with the media library during transfers to the iPod, but this isn't the case for me. Have I misunderstood?
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Yes, that's what that feature is for--to allow you to use the ML while transferring. But you have to turn it on manually in the prefs (Transfers -> Upload), as it's off by default.

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Old 29th May 2007, 12:44   #16
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Ah, thank you! Just me being a noob after all.
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Old 29th May 2007, 15:53   #17
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Only at installation time. You'll ave to reinstall and choose English then.
Ah i see. Would it be sufficient to exchange the ui.dll, when trying to do it manually?
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Perhaps I shall wait until the front page of ml_ipod website is updated.
Finally the main site could be updated

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Ah i see. Would it be sufficient to exchange the ui.dll, when trying to do it manually?
Yes, but how do you get the English one, without installing?

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Maybe out of the installer's EXE. Our via download - if it would be distributed separated (i don't ask for this, it is just for my curiosity).
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Hey, I send a link to ifun.de and they posted the news!

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Old 30th May 2007, 07:19   #22
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Wow...thanx a lot
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I'm hoping someone here can help me. I thought this plugin was going to solve a huge problem I have... but it's causing more. I have all my music on my home computer and I take my iPod to work. I want to listen to music off my iPod at work AND have it update my playcount and last played date... as this is the basis for all my playlists. Then when I take it home I want it to update my iTunes playlists...

However, once I use my iPod with this plugin, when I take it home iTunes erases everything on my iPod and resyncs it... thus losing everything I did with this plugin at work. Any idea?
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You can't use ml_iPod and iTunes together. Any time ml_iPod writes to an iTunes-created database, iTunes will always, ALWAYS, resync the entire iPod on connect. No way around it.

You have to choose one program or the other. You can't use both ml_iPod and iTunes to manage the same iPod--they'll just trample all over each other, as you've already seen.

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Old 1st June 2007, 20:08   #26
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You guys think this section of the FAQ Wiki should be modified? Maybe seems a little misleading

http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/wiki/F...r_one_iPod_.3F
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I thought that might be the case... bummer. I'd love to totally move over to Winamp... but to be honest I find it clumsy and hard to use. Is it just me? iTunes just seems simpler... I love that I just double click a song in a playlist and it plays that song and the rest of them.

Also... iTunes has all 4000+ plus of my songs rated with playcounts and last played dates... and I can't give that up. Bummer...
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iTunes is certainly simpler out-of-box. The biggest issue most people have with iTunes is that it's a total memory hog. I recently had to install iTunes 7.2 to update my iPod's firmware and it was TORTURE to use compared to Winamp. Not only did it take forever just to start up, but it was unbearably sluggish in doing everything. With the latest versions of iTunes, at times it can take whole seconds just to register a mouseclick.

Winamp is so much more responsive that I can't believe I EVER used iTunes regularly.

But I can definitely see where you're coming from with the ratings and playcounts. That is a bummer, because Winamp + ml_iPod truly is the superior solution. Especially now that ml_iPod 3.00 is out with its vastly improved UI.

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Old 1st June 2007, 23:45   #29
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Any way to convert my iTunes library over to Winamp? If I could do that then maybe I could learn to love Winamp.
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Actually, I believe there is a solution to keeping Sylance's Ratings/Playcounts. I think one or both of these methods will work.

Method 1:
Open Winamp (with ml_ipod installed). Load all your music into the Winamp Library. Plug your iPod in and wait for ml_ipod to detect it. Does ml_ipod detect your songs? If so, than just use the "Sync Ratings and Playcounts from iPod to Winamp Library" feature. This will take all your Ratings/Playcounts and copy them onto the corresponding songs in your Winamp Library. Since all the songs loaded in your Winamp Library should be exactly matching the ones on your iPod, there should be no problem in transferring that data into Winamp Library. Make sense?

Method 2:
This is just the same as Method 1 except you would start by using the "Copy To Hardrive" feature for all your music on your iPod and load the copies into Winamp Library instead of your original Music Library (the one used by iTunes). Than do the "Sync Ratings and Playcounts from iPod to Winamp Library" and see if that works. Do this method if Method 1 does not work.
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You can preserve playcounts and ratings with the ml_impex (Import/Export) plugin for Winamp - that allows importing iTunes database, and exporting to iTunes format.

http://bluemars.org/ml_impex/

See http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....21#post1206121

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That will be something to add to the ml_iPod wiki for sure. I'll get on that when I wake up tomorrow. Good piece of information for those coming from iTunes.
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Old 3rd June 2007, 20:03   #34
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You can't use ml_iPod and iTunes together. Any time ml_iPod writes to an iTunes-created database, iTunes will always, ALWAYS, resync the entire iPod on connect. No way around it.
I don't think this is true. It is true if you have set "automatic sync" in iTunes. But if you have chosen manual transfer in iTunes, it should be no problem to use iTunes and ml_ipod in turn. (Hope so)

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I really want to switch to this plugin I just have a few questions about things I need from iTunes that I don't know if this plugin handles(a program that totally slow down my computer)

1. Can you set start/stop-time? In iTunes you can decide that a song starts to play after maybe 15 seconds is the same or will it be possible with mlipod?

2. Will use of this plugin in any way effect the Shuffle-feature on the ipod? I mean if the shuffle experience will suffer if I switch.

3. I have one iPod Video and one iPod Shuffle 1G. There was somewhere in the FAQ a topic that some songs may not be shuffled/played at all using this plugin is it still that way?

I even have problem just use my computer while iTunes is open so I would love to switch to a replacement program, I just still want all the same features that iTunes provides minus the memory hog use.

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1. Interesting feature but ml_iPod does not support it. Maybe in the future. You could just clip the song to your liking with any MP3 Audio Editor though.....

Someone else will have to answer questions 2 + 3 cause I don't use that stuff.
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2+3 should be ok.
What do you use 1 for?

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I figure the guy uses 1 for really long Mixes. Like those 75 Minute Trance Mixes...maybe he only likes one song in the mix so he would want it to start playing at a specific spot in the entire mix.
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I use number one (1) often in songs that maybe have an anoying intro like a buzz sound before the "real" tunes starts to play. For example the Live version of Eric Claptons "Layla" I have set it to stop 20 seconds before it actually does because I don't want to hear 20 seconds of clapping from the fans and/or when he starts to pull some strings for the upcoming song.

I would really like this feature to be implented. The first plugin/player that supports this will be my next iPod-sync-station. What I know no other player that has iPod support have this feature.
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I see. Shouldn't be too hard to do, main work is the GUI for this.
Please add this to the feature request list at SF, to insure that it gets tracked. Thanks.

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