5.6 and ipod - can't see music on ipod after transfer

djohnson123 · 4th December 2010, 14:52

I'm running 5.6 Pro on Vista Home Premium.
When I use winamp to put music on my 4G Nano, the music appears to load as always but after I detach it and try to access the music on the ipod I get a message saying that I should use iTunes to sync the ipod and i can't see any music when I use the menus on the ipod.
I loaded the ipod using Winamp 5.56 and all is well. I try 5.6 again - no music.
Anyone have a fix or advice ?

Don

DrO · 4th December 2010, 15:01

have you made sure you're using the newest revision of 5.6 (is build 3085 at the moment). best to have a look at the ipod updates in http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=324322 if not done so already.

-daz

slamdunka · 4th December 2010, 16:17

I have the exact same problem. Just downloaded the latest build to make sure.

Win 7 here. Nano 4G.

Had no problems whatsoever until updating the software.

DJ Egg · 4th December 2010, 16:28

Hi

Have you installed the pmp_ipod update yet?
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....99#post2722799
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=324322#known

Also included in the exclusive Update Pack
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....324322#updates

djohnson123 · 4th December 2010, 16:33

I downloaded and installed the latest version then applied the update pack but I get the same results.
In Winamp i can see and play the music on the ipod but once i eject it the ipod doesn't know it's there.

Don

DJ Egg · 5th December 2010, 19:48

Both the update pack & ipod_update have been updated again.
Hopefully this time for real....

djohnson123 · 5th December 2010, 21:20

after installing the latest update and new .dll file, closing & opening winamp, I'm still getting the same problem.
Maybe I'll wait until 5.6.1 comes out.

Don

djohnson123 · 6th December 2010, 00:40

I thought I'd try again :
rebooted
did a fresh install of 5.6 - OK
ran the winamp_update_pack - OK
ran the pmp_ipod_update - fail
now when I run 5.6 and plug in my ipod I see two instances appearing.
I can add music to instance A and instance B doesn't see it and vice versa and neither one sees music added using winamp 5.56
When I eject A I can no longer add music to B
But ... there is bright side. At least now when I add music, the ipod can see it after being ejected.

My head hurts ...

DJ Egg · 6th December 2010, 10:32

Hmmm, strange....

You've definitely only got one instance of pmp_ipod.dll present?
(ie. there's no pmp_ipod(2).dll in the Winamp\Plugins folder)

And there's no 3rd-party ml_ipod plugin present?

Can we see your List of Plugins, please.

By the way, there's no need to install the pmp_ipod_update if you've already installed the Update Pack.

djohnson123 · 6th December 2010, 22:01

Silly me ...
I had renamed the bad .dll and left in the directory. After I deleted it everything seems OK.
Thanks for the help.

Don

djohnson123 · 7th December 2010, 20:25

oh, but wait ... I installed 5.6.01 just now an added a whack of stuff to my ipod and when I ejected it ... there was nothing on it ! But when I opened it again in winamp - there it was ! Sound familiar ? Must be hell troubleshooting stuff like this !
back to 5.56 for me

Don

DJ Egg · 7th December 2010, 20:50

Oh man....
It's working fine on Mini, Shuffle & Classic models.
We're searching around for a Nano 4G, bear with us.....

djohnson123 · 7th December 2010, 22:14

just to make sure I'm not crazy, I rebooted the PC, renamed the winamp folder and did a fresh install, opened the ipod in winamp, deleted all the stuff on there, ejected it, disconnected it, plugged it in again, reopened it in winamp, added new songs, ejected it, unplugged it and there was nothing on the ipod.

Don

Benski · 8th December 2010, 00:22

Let me know if this version of pmp_ipod resolves your issue. Close Winamp and unzip this into your plugins folder - usually c:\program files\winamp\plugins. It should overwrite an existing file.

Juanus · 8th December 2010, 00:31

I have an ipod nano 5G and Winamp cannot see it... with this work with the 5G also?

Benski · 8th December 2010, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juanus

I have and ipod nano 5G and Winamp cannot see it... with this work with the 5G also?

The Nano 5G is a whole different can of worms. No support for that yet, unforunately.

Juanus · 8th December 2010, 00:36

No worries... you have done so much already.

djohnson123 · 8th December 2010, 02:22

OK - I closed Winamp and followed your instructions.
I can open Winamp fine but as soon as I plug in the ipod I get a Windows error window saying that "Winamp has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Please close the program".
Don

Juanus · 8th December 2010, 03:22

Unfortunately, with my classic, I can plug it in and everything is OK, but when I eject it, that is when winamp crashes for me.

Benski · 8th December 2010, 04:06

Don, can you do me a favor?

Download this program - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4289641/winamp/ipod_sysinfo.exe
you'll have to run it from the commandprompt. type "ipod_sysinfo E:" (replace E: with your ipod drive letter). It'll generate an "ipod.xml" file in the same directory. Assuming it retrieves it without crashing, can you send me the XML file? You can either attach it in this thread or PM me and send it thru there.

thanks!
-benski

djohnson123 · 8th December 2010, 06:03

here you go :

djohnson123 · 8th December 2010, 06:04

let's try again :

IHuitson · 8th December 2010, 12:28

I have a 4G Nano, connected to Win 7 64bit, Winamp 5.6.01
Same problem
Have reinstalled Winamp, No additional plugins, used latest pmp_ipod.dll from above

Songs appear in Ipod in WinAMP and play, but not on iPod.

iTunes says I need to restore to factory setting. I've tried that a few times also

Any Help Appreciated

DJ Egg · 8th December 2010, 12:48

Hi

We're working on a fix for the Nano 4G issues.
Please bear with us.

Proposed fixes will continue to appear in this thread.
Thank you for your patience and we apologize for the inconvenience.

Benski · 8th December 2010, 15:27

Thanks for the ipod.xml. That clarifies a few things. Here's my second attempt at fixing it. It might not work - I need to do some more thorough testing (still trying to find a friend with a 4th gen nano to take a closer look). But it's worth a shot - let me know, Don (or anyone else in this thread)

-benski

djohnson123 · 8th December 2010, 16:45

I'm at work now and can't get to my home PC for about 4 hours.
I'll try it then and let you know.
Thanks for all the work in trying to fix the problem.

Don

djohnson123 · 8th December 2010, 21:15

Good News !!!

It works !!!

Opened Winamp, plugged in the iPod, put 5 songs on, ejected it, and the songs were still there !!!

Thanks for all that work,

Don

DJ Egg · 8th December 2010, 21:24

Woohooo!

Thanks!

Juanus · 8th December 2010, 21:48

I know this wasnt meant for my classic, but when I choose eject, then everything crashes.

DJ Egg · 8th December 2010, 22:03

Hmm, strange... there's no crash here with our Classic 5g & 6g test models....

Juanus · 8th December 2010, 22:19

OK I figured out what it was.
I had loaded my ipod with the released version of the pmp_ipod
so I hooked it up, transferred a few things and then when I ejected it would crash.
So I restored my ipod and then added a few things and ejected, it would crash.
so maybe the previous way of writing the database is not compatible with this one?

DJ Egg · 8th December 2010, 23:25

Maybe it's just the pmp_ipod.dll in the zip in this thread to blame?
It was kind of intended as a test for Nano 4g sync.

Try the one in pmp_ipod_update.exe or 5.601 Update Pack instead
(both versions of pmp_ipod in those installers are exactly the same).

Juanus · 9th December 2010, 04:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Egg

Maybe it's just the pmp_ipod.dll in the zip in this thread to blame?
It was kind of intended as a test for Nano 4g sync.

Try the one in pmp_ipod_update.exe or 5.601 Update Pack instead
(both versions of pmp_ipod in those installers are exactly the same).

Yeah, now I cant repro it... so nevermind.

IHuitson · 9th December 2010, 08:34

The pmp_ipod.dll posted by Benski above has fixed my 4G problems
Thanx Guys
Your All Champions

kahindi · 10th December 2010, 18:39

I've tried all the updates in this thread but Winamp still will not recognize my 4G Nano. Are you guys still working on a fix for this particular ipod model?

DJ Egg · 10th December 2010, 19:14

@kahindi

Hi

djohnson123 & IHuitson both have a 4G Nano and have already confirmed the fix in this thread.

Is your model definitely a 4G and not 5G or 6G?

We don't support Nano 5/6G, Touch, iPhone or iPad models:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....48#post2724648

IHuitson · 11th December 2010, 11:10

Kahindi
I have a 4G Nano
I did a clean install of WinAMP Pro 5.6 and applied the new pmp_ipod.dll in Benski's post #25 above
I use the Winamp Backup tool and retrieved the Winamp DB using it.
No extra addin's yet
I had done a rebuild of the Ipod in iTunes and it was running 1.4 or 1.04 can't remember or get it off my daughter...

killkenny1 · 13th December 2010, 18:33

I also got issues with my ipod. I don't even transfer anything, just use winamp for playback. I've used earlier versions winamp for playback, but hadn't any issues. After the 5.6 update my ipod after I eject it says "no songs". With 5.601 same story. Even with posted here .dll ipod finds no music. First I thought "maybe winamp erased my music", I went via My computer and so on... found that hidden folder and all stuff was there. So any ideas which could help. Would much appreciate it.

Specs:
iPod Classic 6th Generation (I think, one with 120Gb)
Winamp 5.601 with Essentials Pack
Windows 7 64bit Hope Premium

DJ Egg · 13th December 2010, 20:12

The dll in this thread was intended as a fix for Nano 4g only.

The v0.81 version of pmp_ipod.dll, as included in all of:
5.6.0.3091 (9th Dec revision), pmp_ipod_update & the 5.601 Update Pack,
is the official version with all fixes included.

Juanus also has a Classic 6g and says it works ok (see above)

Akirasoft · 14th December 2010, 04:08

I can no longer right click send-to and have FLAC autoconvert to mp3 on my ipod with 5.6. this has worked for the forever.

is this related? I'm going to have to install an old version to get this to work again.

4th December 2010, 14:52	#1
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	5.6 and ipod - can't see music on ipod after transfer I'm running 5.6 Pro on Vista Home Premium. When I use winamp to put music on my 4G Nano, the music appears to load as always but after I detach it and try to access the music on the ipod I get a message saying that I should use iTunes to sync the ipod and i can't see any music when I use the menus on the ipod. I loaded the ipod using Winamp 5.56 and all is well. I try 5.6 again - no music. Anyone have a fix or advice ? Don

4th December 2010, 16:28	#4
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Hi Have you installed the pmp_ipod update yet? http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....99#post2722799 http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=324322#known Also included in the exclusive Update Pack http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....324322#updates Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

5th December 2010, 19:48	#6
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Both the update pack & ipod_update have been updated again. Hopefully this time for real.... Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

6th December 2010, 10:32	#9
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Hmmm, strange.... You've definitely only got one instance of pmp_ipod.dll present? (ie. there's no pmp_ipod(2).dll in the Winamp\Plugins folder) And there's no 3rd-party ml_ipod plugin present? Can we see your List of Plugins, please. By the way, there's no need to install the pmp_ipod_update if you've already installed the Update Pack. Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

7th December 2010, 20:50	#12
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Oh man.... It's working fine on Mini, Shuffle & Classic models. We're searching around for a Nano 4G, bear with us..... Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

4th December 2010, 15:01	#2
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	have you made sure you're using the newest revision of 5.6 (is build 3085 at the moment). best to have a look at the ipod updates in http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=324322 if not done so already. -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

4th December 2010, 16:17	#3
slamdunka Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1	I have the exact same problem. Just downloaded the latest build to make sure. Win 7 here. Nano 4G. Had no problems whatsoever until updating the software.

4th December 2010, 16:33	#5
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	I downloaded and installed the latest version then applied the update pack but I get the same results. In Winamp i can see and play the music on the ipod but once i eject it the ipod doesn't know it's there. Don

5th December 2010, 21:20	#7
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	after installing the latest update and new .dll file, closing & opening winamp, I'm still getting the same problem. Maybe I'll wait until 5.6.1 comes out. Don

6th December 2010, 00:40	#8
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	I thought I'd try again : rebooted did a fresh install of 5.6 - OK ran the winamp_update_pack - OK ran the pmp_ipod_update - fail now when I run 5.6 and plug in my ipod I see two instances appearing. I can add music to instance A and instance B doesn't see it and vice versa and neither one sees music added using winamp 5.56 When I eject A I can no longer add music to B But ... there is bright side. At least now when I add music, the ipod can see it after being ejected. My head hurts ...

6th December 2010, 22:01	#10
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	Silly me ... I had renamed the bad .dll and left in the directory. After I deleted it everything seems OK. Thanks for the help. Don

7th December 2010, 20:25	#11
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	oh, but wait ... I installed 5.6.01 just now an added a whack of stuff to my ipod and when I ejected it ... there was nothing on it ! But when I opened it again in winamp - there it was ! Sound familiar ? Must be hell troubleshooting stuff like this ! back to 5.56 for me Don

7th December 2010, 22:14	#13
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	just to make sure I'm not crazy, I rebooted the PC, renamed the winamp folder and did a fresh install, opened the ipod in winamp, deleted all the stuff on there, ejected it, disconnected it, plugged it in again, reopened it in winamp, added new songs, ejected it, unplugged it and there was nothing on the ipod. Don

8th December 2010, 00:31	#15
Juanus Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 740	I have an ipod nano 5G and Winamp cannot see it... with this work with the 5G also?

8th December 2010, 00:36	#17
Juanus Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 740	No worries... you have done so much already.

8th December 2010, 02:22	#18
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	OK - I closed Winamp and followed your instructions. I can open Winamp fine but as soon as I plug in the ipod I get a Windows error window saying that "Winamp has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Please close the program". Don

8th December 2010, 03:22	#19
Juanus Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 740	Unfortunately, with my classic, I can plug it in and everything is OK, but when I eject it, that is when winamp crashes for me.

8th December 2010, 04:06	#20
Benski Ben Allison Former Winamp Developer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,057	Don, can you do me a favor? Download this program - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4289641/winamp/ipod_sysinfo.exe you'll have to run it from the commandprompt. type "ipod_sysinfo E:" (replace E: with your ipod drive letter). It'll generate an "ipod.xml" file in the same directory. Assuming it retrieves it without crashing, can you send me the XML file? You can either attach it in this thread or PM me and send it thru there. thanks! -benski

8th December 2010, 06:03	#21
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	here you go :

8th December 2010, 12:28	#23
IHuitson Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3	I have a 4G Nano, connected to Win 7 64bit, Winamp 5.6.01 Same problem Have reinstalled Winamp, No additional plugins, used latest pmp_ipod.dll from above Songs appear in Ipod in WinAMP and play, but not on iPod. iTunes says I need to restore to factory setting. I've tried that a few times also Any Help Appreciated

8th December 2010, 12:48	#24
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Hi We're working on a fix for the Nano 4G issues. Please bear with us. Proposed fixes will continue to appear in this thread. Thank you for your patience and we apologize for the inconvenience. Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

8th December 2010, 16:45	#26
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	I'm at work now and can't get to my home PC for about 4 hours. I'll try it then and let you know. Thanks for all the work in trying to fix the problem. Don

8th December 2010, 21:15	#27
djohnson123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	Good News !!! It works !!! Opened Winamp, plugged in the iPod, put 5 songs on, ejected it, and the songs were still there !!! Thanks for all that work, Don

8th December 2010, 21:24	#28
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Woohooo! Thanks! Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

8th December 2010, 21:48	#29
Juanus Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 740	I know this wasnt meant for my classic, but when I choose eject, then everything crashes.

8th December 2010, 22:03	#30
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Hmm, strange... there's no crash here with our Classic 5g & 6g test models.... Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

8th December 2010, 22:19	#31
Juanus Major Dude Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 740	OK I figured out what it was. I had loaded my ipod with the released version of the pmp_ipod so I hooked it up, transferred a few things and then when I ejected it would crash. So I restored my ipod and then added a few things and ejected, it would crash. so maybe the previous way of writing the database is not compatible with this one?

8th December 2010, 23:25	#32
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	Maybe it's just the pmp_ipod.dll in the zip in this thread to blame? It was kind of intended as a test for Nano 4g sync. Try the one in pmp_ipod_update.exe or 5.601 Update Pack instead (both versions of pmp_ipod in those installers are exactly the same). Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

9th December 2010, 08:34	#34
IHuitson Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3	The pmp_ipod.dll posted by Benski above has fixed my 4G problems Thanx Guys Your All Champions

10th December 2010, 18:39	#35
kahindi Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1	I've tried all the updates in this thread but Winamp still will not recognize my 4G Nano. Are you guys still working on a fix for this particular ipod model?

10th December 2010, 19:14	#36
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	@kahindi Hi djohnson123 & IHuitson both have a 4G Nano and have already confirmed the fix in this thread. Is your model definitely a 4G and not 5G or 6G? We don't support Nano 5/6G, Touch, iPhone or iPad models: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....48#post2724648 Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

11th December 2010, 11:10	#37
IHuitson Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3	Kahindi I have a 4G Nano I did a clean install of WinAMP Pro 5.6 and applied the new pmp_ipod.dll in Benski's post #25 above I use the Winamp Backup tool and retrieved the Winamp DB using it. No extra addin's yet I had done a rebuild of the Ipod in iTunes and it was running 1.4 or 1.04 can't remember or get it off my daughter...

13th December 2010, 18:33	#38
killkenny1 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4	I also got issues with my ipod. I don't even transfer anything, just use winamp for playback. I've used earlier versions winamp for playback, but hadn't any issues. After the 5.6 update my ipod after I eject it says "no songs". With 5.601 same story. Even with posted here .dll ipod finds no music. First I thought "maybe winamp erased my music", I went via My computer and so on... found that hidden folder and all stuff was there. So any ideas which could help. Would much appreciate it. Specs: iPod Classic 6th Generation (I think, one with 120Gb) Winamp 5.601 with Essentials Pack Windows 7 64bit Hope Premium

13th December 2010, 20:12	#39
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 36,137	The dll in this thread was intended as a fix for Nano 4g only. The v0.81 version of pmp_ipod.dll, as included in all of: 5.6.0.3091 (9th Dec revision), pmp_ipod_update & the 5.601 Update Pack, is the official version with all fixes included. Juanus also has a Classic 6g and says it works ok (see above) Playlist \| Twitter \| Albums

14th December 2010, 04:08	#40
Akirasoft Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3	I can no longer right click send-to and have FLAC autoconvert to mp3 on my ipod with 5.6. this has worked for the forever. is this related? I'm going to have to install an old version to get this to work again.