Old 3rd April 2005, 17:20   #161
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oh, you mean i have used default modern skin instead of default classic skin for the screen shot? am i right?
let's say why i used modern skin.
dl only works wa5, what is the main feature of wa5? i think "modern skin", so i used default modern skin for the screen shot.
I guess...but I am old-fashioned. I don't like modern skins and I don't like ML
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i also like classic skin. modern skin is resource eater and i myself made some classic skin.

anyway, you don't think that my statement is logical thinking?
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i also like classic skin. modern skin is resource eater and i myself made some classic skin.

anyway, you don't think that my statement is logical thinking?
Most of my dislikings are not based on logic

But you are correct. I guess we should use modern skins.
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Old 4th April 2005, 16:40   #164
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Edited Beta page as Nunzio suggested...


Jonas, maybe change your sig


Btw, why did you make a 1.01 version of the Win9x version while practically all 'bugs' of v1.0 are still there?
I justed tested it on WinME, and these things are not fixed in that version:
* DL shortcuts conflicting with Winamp shortcuts
* crash on a forced shut-down (by Windows log off)
* hotkey indicator 'Go to folder/playlist'
* hotkey indicator 'Delete folder'
* Minor layout changes in prefs and typos (eg. invaluablehelp in about box)
* Improved playlist refresh behaviour (i.e. not implemented...)

I assumed the win9x 1.01 version would have undergone the same changes as the regular 1.01 version, but appearantly not? What's the difference between win9x 1.0 and win9x 1.01?

(the version I tested is the most recent, afaik: it has a build date of April 3 2005)

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Or did you just call it 1.01 because you fixed a lot of win9x-related issues?
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Old 4th April 2005, 16:58   #165
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i fixed images according to your suggestions.
but i dropped "file extension thing", since it needs two lines to display...which looks bad.
any suggestions? it's ok?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by siebe83
[B]Edited Beta page as Nunzio suggested...


Jonas, maybe change your sig


Btw, why did you make a 1.01 version of the Win9x version while practically all 'bugs' of v1.0 are still there?
I justed tested it on WinME, and these things are not fixed in that version:
* DL shortcuts conflicting with Winamp shortcuts
* crash on a forced shut-down (by Windows log off)
* hotkey indicator 'Go to folder/playlist'
* hotkey indicator 'Delete folder'
* Minor layout changes in prefs and typos (eg. invaluablehelp in about box)
* Improved playlist refresh behaviour (i.e. not implemented...)

I assumed the win9x 1.01 version would have undergone the same changes as the regular 1.01 version, but appearantly not? What's the difference between win9x 1.0 and win9x 1.01?

(the version I tested is the most recent, afaik: it has a build date of April 3 2005)

[edit]
Or did you just call it 1.01 because you fixed a lot of win9x-related issues?
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Actually it must have been a brain-lapse...cause I thought I had changed all things in v1.01 9x too...
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@ mrym...

Both the small and larger images look fine to me.
But that's Jonas' decision.

@ siebe...

Yep. Much better now that you indicated on the Beta page to first install at least IE 5.01 sp2 before installing DL Win9x/Me version. That should prevent any potential problems and subsequent bad feedback/complaints from Win9x/Me users.

I have one small suggestion. To my eye, the menu selections are a little too close to each other. Kinda makes it difficult to distinguish where a link to individual site pages starts/ends. Maybe include separators in the page menus? Either that or a couple of non-breaking spaces (& nbsp;) between each to separate/add more space between them?

What you have now:
Home Documentation Language Files Beta Contact

With separators:
Home | Documentation | Language Files | Beta | Contact

Just a suggestion.
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Old 4th April 2005, 17:50   #168
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Ah, you silly old man (only joking and you know it )

Surely something could be done about that... I think | characters would do fine


Jonas, things happen... I sometimes am sure I had made my homework but then it turned out I didn't
(damn, I'm in a bad-joke mood today)

Will you fix it or will you leave it? If the first I'll just leave the site as it is, if the latter I'll make some changes...

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LOL.
Well I am old and nearsighted. I'm well past that half-century mark now (how far past I won't say ), so yeah... I am an old fart with failing eyesight I guess.
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I don't know anyone of your age as familiar with html, computers, etc. as you are

And you are right about that menu anyway. One space between the different page links is just too small to separate them...

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Btw, why did you make a 1.01 version of the Win9x version while practically all 'bugs' of v1.0 are still there?
I justed tested it on WinME, and these things are not fixed in that version:
* DL shortcuts conflicting with Winamp shortcuts
* crash on a forced shut-down (by Windows log off)
* hotkey indicator 'Go to folder/playlist'
* hotkey indicator 'Delete folder'
* Minor layout changes in prefs and typos (eg. invaluablehelp in about box)
* Improved playlist refresh behaviour (i.e. not implemented...)
I've done fixes to all but the last...is this implemented in regular 1.01?
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Yup, here (i.e. the part about refreshing playlists). But not a big deal...

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Yup, here (i.e. the part about refreshing playlists). But not a big deal...
Uploaded a new 9x version with all siebe's changes fixed.
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Old 4th April 2005, 18:56   #174
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Both the small and larger images look fine to me.
thanks nunzio
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quite right.
i just want to help him.
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Old 4th April 2005, 19:02   #175
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i fixed images according to your suggestions.
but i dropped "file extension thing", since it needs two lines to display...which looks bad.
any suggestions? it's ok?
I still think It has its own cache is better...
Otherwise it looks good
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@ mrym...

No probs

@ Jonas...

I downloaded the latest version

@ siebe...

I see that you changed the menu to now contain separators.
I also see that you added this to the Beta page...
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Maybe that needs to be changed a bit? Although I can not run the WinXP/2k installer to check, doesn't it also create a \Plugins\dl\Language sub-folder in which it stores the language files? If not, don't worry about it. If so, then maybe change the above to something like this instead? ...
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Since the Win9x/ME version doesn't come with an installer, there will be no language files installed. If you want the language files then you'll need to create a Winamp\Plugins\dl\Language sub-folder. You can download the language files yourself at the Language Files page, and place them within the newly created Language sub-folder.
Or something like the above.

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Yep. To check I just downloaded the Spanish language file. It will not work unless I create a Language sub-folder and place it there. Then, it works.
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No probs
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Yep. To check I just downloaded the Spanish language file. It will not work unless I create a Language sub-folder and place it there. Then, it works.
From what I can remember you shouldn't have to put language files in the language sub-folder. Just locate the file and it should work no?
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Actually Jonas, when I tried that (placing the language file directly within the dl sub-folder), right after the prompt that said "This action requires a Winamp restart. Proceed?", then when I pressed the YES button, Winamp wouldn't close properly and crash-closed instead with this vague and useless error message...

WINAMP caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:00000001

And then upon reopening Winamp, the change didn't take effect. But as soon as I created the Language sub-folder and placed the language file there, then when I attempted the change, there was no Winamp crash upon closing, settings were saved, and upon reopening Winamp again, the new language was in place.

So, go figure.
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Actually Jonas, when I tried that (placing the language file directly within the dl sub-folder), right after the prompt that said "This action requires a Winamp restart. Proceed?", then when I pressed the YES button, Winamp wouldn't close properly and crash-closed instead with this vague and useless error message...

WINAMP caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:00000001

And then upon reopening Winamp, the change didn't take effect. But as soon as I created the Language sub-folder and placed the language file there, then when I attempted the change, there was no Winamp crash upon closing, settings were saved, and upon reopening Winamp again, the new language was in place.

So, go figure.
Then that's rather a bug...

[edit]
No problem with my '95 to select language file anywhere...
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No problem with my '95 to select language file anywhere...
Hmmm.
Must be an unresolved glitch in my Win95 installation then.
Shit. All is not well in Nunzio's hell.
My brain hurts now.
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Hmmm.
Must be an unresolved glitch in my Win95 installation then.
Shit. All is not well in Nunzio's hell.
My brain hurts now.
Or a glitch in DL...
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Or a glitch in DL...
I dunno.
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Hello siebe! How are you?
Well now that you've responded ==><== at least I'm very happy to see that we are ALL confused!
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Yeah, I'm confused... You know what? I'll just say they should put it in the Language subfolder and if they don't maybe it'll work or not...

But at the moment I'm enjoying myself pretty well reading your mind...
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What about this...
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Since the Win9x/ME version doesn't come with an installer, no language files will be installed. You can download them yourself at the Language Files page. Save them to a newly created folder called Language in \Winamp\Plugins\dl. You can then easily load them via the Miscellanous tab in preferences.

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Well it's true! Stick a cactus plant onto your ass and I bet they'll put you in the movie!! Either that, or they'll have security "escort" you off the set.
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What about this...
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Since the Win9x/ME version doesn't come with an installer, no language files will be installed. You can download them yourself at the Language Files page. Save them to a newly created folder called Language in \Winamp\Plugins\dl. You can then easily load them via the Miscellanous tab in preferences.
Nahhh.. that wouldn't be any good as one of my mind-farts. I see no way for it to generate a laugh out of anybody.




errrr...




hang on....


Oh!!! You meant at the Beta page!
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I still think It has its own cache is better...
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Looks good.

If nothing else, the plugin submission system is back up..so maybe release 1.01?
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I don't see why not
Pics look great, hopefully that'll give people a better idea of what dl has to offer

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I don't see why not
Pics look great, hopefully that'll give people a better idea of what dl has to offer
Hmm, so how do you really resubmit? Submit like a new plugin? Or Edit the current?
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From what I've heard, I believe it's possible to update the current one. That way you'll keep the existing reviews, ratings and url. If you sumbit it as a new plugin you'd need to delete the old one manually...

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imho, if i were you, i'd edit the current submission.

reasons why...
you will lose all of the kindly reviews and download counts.( some pointless reviews are wiped out though...)

even if you can wipe out those crap, and even if you write description carefully, there are no way to prevent dl from another stupid morons. no guaranteed.
(but this time, write description carefully. like " do not post bug report or your problem in the review. please contact me at winamp forum." )

but it's your decision.

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i really don't understand why the perfect five stars ratings awesome plugin ( yes, the dynamic library) has not been featured (not placed on the top page).
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Well I've resubmitted it now.
We'll see when it comes back online again...
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Well actually the database is back online afaik. Your v1.0 Mar 7th submission is still showing right now.
Maybe PM either DrO or Mr Jones to "push" it along.

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Well actually the database is back online afaik. Your v1.0 Mar 7th submission is still showing right now.
Maybe PM either DrO or Mr Jones to "push" it along.
Yes database is back online but the plugin gets put offline while in resubmission...right? I can't find at least..
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Just to let everyone know...

For some reason the url http://joonas.ne1.net no longer works. This has been the case for some days now and I'm not sure if it'll ever work again.

Nunzio has created a new re-direct URL, but that one isn't activated yet. I'll post back here when it does.

Anyway, http://nunzioweb.com/joonas/ should always work. If you have any links to joonas.ne1.net in sigs, etc, maybe you want to change them.
You can also wait a few more days to see if the ne1.net URL starts working again.

Btw, same goes for http://daz.ne1.net > http://nunzioweb.com/daz/

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Hmmm.. Whoaw. !!

I have never ever seen such a long thread just for a small website. It's almost a bugtracking, feedback system for the website like it was put on SourceForge.

If I had payed attention to this thread earlier I could have offered webspace right at the beginning. I know inthegray (Eric Caioli) has been kind to me and letting me use his server (he even set up a MySQL database for me) for my PHP driven homepage.

Some ideas for the DL website (if I was to run it):

Maybe use PHP instead of SSL to simplify things. Maybe use one of those small CMS systems specially made for blogging, and customize it for presenting the DL documentation and changelog pages. I had a look at Drupal which is a nice CMS made by Steven Wittens (aka UnconeD the AVS preset wizard) and others.
I don't know if joonas, nunzio and sieb83 really want the site to be this advanced, but a CMS will allow visitors to give direct feedback and you can have a download counter and a guestbook. I know most people will use Winamp.com's forums for discussing the plug-in (no need to have a dedicated forum on some CMS based site).

I can provide PHP enabled webspace if anyone is interested. I have an account at a secondary server (independent of inthegray) where I can put up something.

Nice of nunzion nonetheless to provide webspace.
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Thanks for the offer saivert

Yeah, it took quite some posts in this thread to actually get started, and a lot of posts were on other topics as well (eg. specific DL versions).

As for the site, I for one don't think it's worth all the trouble. A site can always get nicer, smoother, bigger and more advanced, but I don't think it's really necessary at this point. It's only one plugin after all.
Besides, I don't have any experience with PHP. Dunno about Jonas but he doesn't have the time for it anyway.

But thanks for the offer anyway. Maybe in the future when we feel we should offer some more features on the website we'll do it. Also with the future release of 1.1 we will probably need to do a major overhaul of the site and it might then be useful to look into solutions like this.
I think Nunzio's server supports php as well btw, but I'm not sure about that.

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I think Nunzio's server supports php as well btw, but I'm not sure about that.
Yes it does, siebe. And if you like, you have access to MySQL, a guestbook, a forum, a counter, etc, etc, if you want it. Everything that Nicolai mentioned above. But as you said, it's only one plugin. If you would like anything like that, let me know.

Insofar as ne1.net is concerned, I don't know what the hell is happening there. I've investigated but thus far I've gotten no answers as to what the problem might be. I've updated all links at my personal site right now (and in my sig) to point to http://nunzioweb.com/joonas/ and http://nunzioweb.com/daz/ (for DrO). I know that those 2 URL's will always be good, since they reference my server directly. I'm still awaiting activation on the new re-direct URL's for both Jonas and Darren. I'll let you know when they are activated.

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