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Old 15th March 2011, 12:19   #1
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Arrow Winamp does not support SD card on Samsung Galaxy S

Winamp for Android is great, but unfortunately it does not support Wifi synchronisation from PC to the (external) SD card on Samsung Galaxy S i9000.

After synchronization from PC, Winamp stores the music files on the INTERNAL memory at /mnt/sdcard/music. But this path is the INTERNAL memory of the Samsung Galaxy S, which is very limited.

Winamp should have an option to store the music files on the EXTERNAL SD card which has more capacity and is dedicated to MP3 files on my device.

On the Samsung Galaxy S, the SD card has the path /mnt/sdcard/external_sd

Please add an option to synchronize the files on this path. Or, even better, an option for a user-defined path.
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Old 19th March 2011, 14:58   #2
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I'd be curious to know if this is something that will be worked on. I have a large external SD card so I can keep my music on it and not the device itself. But now my playlists can't be copied over because they are larger than what's left on my external drive. I have a Samsung Galaxy S (TMO).

The ability to sync to the external drive is a dealbreaker unfortunately. Not a threat or anything. I really just need to know if I should keep using winamp. If it's on the radar as something that's planned to get done, I can hold out until then. But if it's not a priority I can just go back to Mixzing.

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Old 22nd March 2011, 21:06   #3
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No word from the Winamp team?
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Old 25th March 2011, 17:40   #4
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I would really like to know if this this can be tweaked to allow choosable sync locations?

Can you do it via the USB cable?

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Old 26th March 2011, 11:31   #5
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I'm also a Samsung Galaxy S user and after jumping through all the hoops to install Winamp for Android, setting up wifi sync, etc., I was very disappointed to discover that the external SD card cannot be used.

To make matters more complicated, as has been stated elsewhere, the phone looks like a different device when connected via wifi, compared to when it is connected via USB. Therefore, if I sync up all my music and podcasts to the external SD card, then disconnect the USB cable, enable wifi on the device and sync via that connection, I get a complete duplicate set of files on the internal SD card. Obviously this is a less than ideal outcome...

I've been a fan of Winamp as a desktop application since its early days and was pleased to see the Android app appear. The wifi sync function is a great idea, but it still seems to be somewhat half-baked at the moment. I hope someone from Nullsoft / AOL will respond here to let us know whether there will be further refinements and fixes in this area in the future.
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Old 4th April 2011, 19:39   #6
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I am afraid that the Winamp team has no interest to reply to this topic.

I will uninstall Winamp on my Android phone and go back to MixZing.
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Old 15th April 2011, 20:20   #7
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Sadly I think you may be right jolux. I have yet to see a reply to any of my posts or many other bug reports, feature requests, etc. that people take the time to post on this forum. It does make you wonder what is the point of having these parts of the forum in the first place, if we are just talking amongst ourselves, with no-one from Nullsoft listening.
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Old 16th April 2011, 15:38   #8
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Hmm, interesting. I'll forward this to the relevant dev(s). Looks like we'll need to get hold of a Samsung Galaxy S.

Wifi sync should be defaulting to the Music folder on the SD card (as it does with all other models, afaik), not internal memory.

Alas, the path isn't configurable for wifi sync, only for usb sync
(via: Winamp > Prefs > Media Library > Portables > Android/USB Drive X > Advanced tab).
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Old 16th April 2011, 17:52   #9
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For the developers:

The Galaxy S mounts the physical SD card on /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ since the update to Froyo (Android 2.2).

As the path for the external SD card is different on several configurations (dependent on smartphone and Android version), an option for a user-defined path would be optimal.

Let the users decide.
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Old 18th April 2011, 16:21   #10
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I have a Viewsonic G Tablet and have the same issue.
Would like to sync to external SD card as well over WiFi.

Thanks.
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Old 18th April 2011, 16:43   #11
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For the developers:

The Galaxy S mounts the physical SD card on /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ since the update to Froyo (Android 2.2).

As the path for the external SD card is different on several configurations (dependent on smartphone and Android version), an option for a user-defined path would be optimal.

Let the users decide.
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I have a Viewsonic G Tablet and have the same issue.
Would like to sync to external SD card as well over WiFi.

Thanks.
So all we have to do is change the option from Internal to SD now right?
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Old 18th April 2011, 16:49   #12
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So all we have to do is change the option from Internal to SD now right?
Not necessarily, some users/devices might not have an external SD card or people might want to organize things different and have a nested path for their media.
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Old 19th April 2011, 01:17   #13
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Hmm, interesting. I'll forward this to the relevant dev(s). Looks like we'll need to get hold of a Samsung Galaxy S.

Wifi sync should be defaulting to the Music folder on the SD card (as it does with all other models, afaik), not internal memory.

Alas, the path isn't configurable for wifi sync, only for usb sync
(via: Winamp > Prefs > Media Library > Portables > Android/USB Drive X > Advanced tab).
FYI, this path is only within the drive letter that Windows assigns to whatever the device exposes as USB storage, usually the internal SD.
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Old 19th April 2011, 05:33   #14
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Thanks to DJ Egg for confirming that the developers are actually reading (at least some of) what we post on this forum; that's reassuring to know.

I'll eagerly await further news on this topic, but would also like to draw the Nullsoft team's attention to another sync problem with the Galaxy S - this one has been an issue for me since the beginning. I refer to the problem of a sync process deleting and and re-copying a large proportion of existing files on the phone every time a new sync is done. Here's a thread which discusses this in more detail:

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=327794

Although the title of the thread is "Wireless sync deletes and re-syncs most existing files" I believe that this is basically the same issue that occurs when a USB connection is used. It's incredibly irritating and wastes a lot of time at every sync operation. So if you guys are going to get hold of a Galaxy S, it would be great if you could have a look at this and fix it as well.

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Old 19th April 2011, 05:49   #15
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FYI, this path is only within the drive letter that Windows assigns to whatever the device exposes as USB storage, usually the internal SD.
By the way: Windows assigns two different drive letters to the Galaxy S as USB storage. One for the internal memory, and another for the external SD card. For example, my Galaxy S shows up as drive I: (internal) and drive J: (external SD). Certainly these letters are different and depending on hardware and Windows configuration.
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Old 24th April 2011, 21:01   #16
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Wow! I haven't logged into these forums in a LONG time. As far as the external SD goes, it's actually an Android thing. The way an app accesses the external SD card in apps is supposed to be consistent across all versions of Android to avoid reprogramming an app for each devices. (The methods are usually getExternalStorageDirectory () and/or getExternalStoragePublicDirectory() in the base os.Environment class, if you're a developer). Unfortunately, various manufactures have been implementing this function incorrectly (or at least misleading to developers) so that all apps that use these functions will store the files on the internal storage instead of your SD cards as expected. Really, the only way to go around this is to have reports come in, exactly like you guys are doing, for each device that behaves inappropriately, and place exceptions in the program's design for each device.

Unfortunately, these exceptions add complications to the program and introduces more bugs if your system is detected incorrectly (custom ROM users for example). For instance, in the Galaxy S line of phones, the location of the SD card on the file system is different based on the version of Android you have. For those using Android 2.1 on a Galaxy, for whatever reason, your location is /sdcard/sd while those on 2.2 the location is /sdcard/external_sd. By default, Android expects the functions mentioned above to point to /sdcard which is the internal storage for these phones.

So in short, it's not really Winamp's fault, it's the device manufacturer for changing Android's behavior for whatever reason. The only way around this is to continue telling the devs that the location of the external SD is different for your device. Dev's an easy solution for you is to just give people the option to specify where to sync the data. In terms of programming, this is trivial.

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Old 29th April 2011, 10:52   #17
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I can't use Winamp on my Galaxy S until they let me define where it stores the music
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Old 2nd May 2011, 19:58   #18
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That's a good point.
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Old 17th May 2011, 18:23   #19
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So in short, it's not really Winamp's fault, it's the device manufacturer for changing Android's behavior for whatever reason. The only way around this is to continue telling the devs that the location of the external SD is different for your device. Dev's an easy solution for you is to just give people the option to specify where to sync the data. In terms of programming, this is trivial.
you are correct. but you one thing that was already discussed. The ability to choose.. Yes Devs get it all wrong, and put the SD card folder in weird places, but what is wrong with a simple "Select location" setting.

Also, remember that the Galaxy S line is one of the most popular Android phones out there, and now that Samsung has about 10 other phones that work pretty much the same, its a HUGE market for android phones.
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Old 14th July 2011, 00:03   #20
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I am having the same issue on Samsung Galaxy Tab GT-P1000, would like to be able to wireless sync to my shiny new external SD card. May try USB syncing in the meantime.
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Old 10th August 2011, 01:22   #21
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Same issue here with another popular device, Galaxy SII i-9100. Winamp discover and wifi sync only works for the very limited internal storage. I really hopes winamp allow us to set which directory to use for our media files.
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Old 13th August 2011, 01:25   #22
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not seeing this issue on my galaxy s phone

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Old 9th September 2011, 02:45   #23
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I just installed WFA on my Samsung Fascinate. It works well. I was also able to copy about 135 MB of music (via USB) to my SD card with no issues. WFA also picked up that the songs were indeed on my SD Card as opposed to my phone memory. So far so good - I will update you as I can...

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Old 12th September 2011, 01:13   #24
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I'm having this issue with a Droid X2.
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Old 18th October 2011, 18:01   #25
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Same issue here with another popular device, Galaxy SII i-9100. Winamp discover and wifi sync only works for the very limited internal storage. I really hopes winamp allow us to set which directory to use for our media files.
This issue still exists as I'm having it with the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II. I have more music than will fit on the internal storage, and there is no option on the desktop nor in the android app settings to specify the default music location on the device. Unfortunately this prevents me from using the wifi sync, which is one of the main reasons I got the app for the phone.
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Old 1st November 2011, 22:39   #26
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Similar issue on Sprint Galaxy S2

I thought it was a trivial thing, but maybe not...

When I connect my phone to the computer with a cable, I have the option of copying music on either the internal or the external storage place.

However, the phone winamp does not see the music on the external drive, nor can I find a way to point winamp to the external SD card.

Am I missing something or is this how things are supposed to be?


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Old 3rd December 2011, 11:45   #27
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SD storage on Samsung Galaxy devices

Hi,

I have the same problem on my Samsung Galaxy SII (AT&T) model SGH-i777.

The way these devices configure their storage is very confusing. As far as I can work out the phone itself has internal storage divided into two logical areas: phone storage and SD card. The term SD card is misleading here because it's actually internal to the phone and not an SD card at all in the normal sense. So, /mnt/sdcard actually points to phone internal memory which may or may not be an actual SD card (impossible to tell since you can't get at it). The internal SD on my phone is 12Gb total storage.

The phone also has a microSD expansion slot, in which I have a 32Gb card which I want to use for all media (music, photos etc.).

The problem with WinAmp and all other music players I've tried is that it only looks at /mnt/sdcard, and so wants to sync media there. This completely negates the 32Gb card I've bought for this specific purpose.

Kind of crappy workaround: I hope this tip helps out others with the same problem while we wait for a proper fix...

While you can't use WinAmp sync to your external SD you can still use WinAmp to play music on the card. Just copy your music to the external SD manually (mine is in /mnt/external_sd/media/audio). Then on your device go into App Manager and hit WinAmp, Clear Data. The next time you launch WinAmp it will search your device and find the music on external SD.

Hope this helps,
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Old 11th December 2011, 07:52   #28
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I would like to add my voice to this problem.

A someone said above, USB attachment allows internal phone memory or SD card, Wi-Fi just uses phone memory.

My music collection will not sync due to the folder size.
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Old 14th December 2011, 07:27   #29
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How can it be Winamp Team have totally no interest in solving this matter..? How hard is allowing user defined path to the sync folder on Galaxy S/S2/all S alike Samsung phones?
I would only like to remind that both Galaxy S and Galasy S2 are the all time best selling Android phones... And the ability to sync via Wifi is crucial function distinguishing Winam app from other Music player for Android...
Even though solving this issue might not be as easy as I claim it to be, Winamp team approach to this topic is just pathetic... If there is or is not something going on with solving this issue, You might keep users informed, instead of leaving them on their own...
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Old 18th December 2011, 19:18   #30
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Same Problem with the DroidX2

Wireless Sync works *almost* flawlessly between my desktop and android Winamp on my Droid X2 (running 2.3.4). All the metadata and playlists work perfectly. However, without the option to sync to my SD card wirelessly, I am limited to only 4GB of storage space rather than the 32GB I need to make my phone a viable MP3 player. I can copy files over USB to the SD card but winamp only sees it as an SD card attached by USB rather than Winamp Android so all of my organization and playlists go away when syncing. There is so much to love about Android Winamp but until Winamp supports SD card syncing I can't really use it. Please work on this problem!
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Old 19th December 2011, 12:53   #31
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Well, no one seems to care... I don't understand Winamp's approach... Maybe it's proper time to consider other players in Android Market...
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Old 19th December 2011, 14:01   #32
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So what happens if you do this (see below image)? Does it ignore your request and place the files on the internal SD card instead?



[Edit -> DJ Egg]
This is USB mode, not WiFi.

The problem is with WiFi transfers/sync only.
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Old 20th December 2011, 00:37   #33
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works fine on my i9100, comes up as pictured above
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Old 21st December 2011, 06:29   #34
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I tried it for myself but apparently I have only that part device-->i9003(my phone)-->Transfers. There's no way to turn on these parts where would be "i9903 SD card" in my case.On the screen it is marked with little lama icon on the left - don't know what it means and where to enable it. So still, I don't have possibility to pick some other SD card as shown on Your picture... Besides, in some kind of device overall survey it shows I have about 1,52 GB total capacity, which is capacity of my very internal SD card....
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Old 23rd December 2011, 03:25   #35
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SD card not seen on HTC Amaze

I just installed on my Amaze, and Winamp Sync over wifi only sees the phone's internal memory. Is there a fix or solution? I want my media stored on the SD card.
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Old 23rd December 2011, 04:23   #36
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@mremulator - yes, that works when the phone is plugged in via usb. However it is apparently impossible to get winamp to sync to the sdcard over wifi. That's incredibly frustrating when adding a simple user-changeable "sync path" (which they already have for usb sync) would completely solve the problem. This thread is 10 months old and the Dev's have been obviously aware of the issue since June? Pretty lame support given that the wifi sync is winamp's only real edge in this market...
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Old 7th January 2012, 05:03   #37
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New year and problem still exists. Add another Samsung phone to the list the Exhibit II (SGH-T679).
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Old 9th January 2012, 20:24   #38
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I get the same issue as Lommer with my Samsung Galaxy Note (a big S2 with a stylus, really). I can sync to the external SD via USB but not via Wifi.

I'd rather use Winamp primarily as I've been using it for years on the PC and I've bought Winamp Pro for Windows and Android already...
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Old 11th January 2012, 15:59   #39
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Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant)

Count me in as having the same issue. I paid for the WinAmp Pro version, which I cannot apparently use. I didn't figure that out until after the sync, which took a lot longer than 15 minutes - so I missed the refund window.

I can sync via USB, but the wireless insists on putting the music on internal storage, which makes it a useless feature. PLEASE allow a setup option to point to a folder location for wireless sync.
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Old 24th January 2012, 00:23   #40
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Unhappy Same problem on samsung s2

Wifi does saves only on internal memory.

Just in USB sync mode the external card apears!!
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