Old 13th February 2003, 16:20   #1
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variable bit rate or not?

so do you guys rip with variable bitrate or not, i cant tell the difference when i use it but im not 100% convinced its good?

i use 160 max and cant remember the lower value,

would u rip with variabl bit rate i use the lame encoder ??

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Old 13th February 2003, 16:22   #2
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Old 13th February 2003, 16:25   #3
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lol! well it exists i assure you... anyone else used it?

if you havent heaed of it and you have a ripping program go into the options you should find either a variable bit rate option or VBR (short for variable bit rate) it allows you to specifiy the higest peak bit rate to use and the lowest bit rate to use (i.e. when there isnt much sound and a high bitrate isnt needed i think it saves space (because of smaller file sizes) i just wanna know if you suffer from lowere quality sound as a result?

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Old 13th February 2003, 16:40   #4
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VBR supposedly gives a higher quality than CBR for a given file size, personally i cant hear much of a difference, but the theory is sound.

So yeh, i use it.
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Old 13th February 2003, 17:02   #5
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Ah VBR, I wondered what the hell that was.

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Old 13th February 2003, 19:42   #6
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Yes, I use CDex (and therefore lame) with an average bit rate of 192, upper bitrate of 320, and lower bitrate of 96 to encode my mp3s.

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Old 13th February 2003, 19:58   #7
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I just use CBR because I don't care about the saved space. Plus, when there is silence in the middle of a song, I want it to be high quality silence - none of that crappy 64kbps silence. Uggh.
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Old 14th February 2003, 14:17   #8
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lol at anubis cool well i may up the high end quality if i can, the only thing im unsure of is if my car mp3 player will read vbr cause im ripping 2 cds a day ill end up with like 50 cds worth that wont work lol

ohh well ill test that on saturday.

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Old 15th February 2003, 00:22   #10
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I always rip with CBR (constant bit-rate) because:
a) I can afford the space, as it is burned to CD in a month or so.
b) Sounds much better overall.
c) I prefer higher bit-rates of 160-192KBps OGGs.

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Quote:
Originally posted by anubis2003
I just use CBR because I don't care about the saved space. Plus, when there is silence in the middle of a song, I want it to be high quality silence - none of that crappy 64kbps silence. Uggh.
I'd rather have low quality silence, and higher quality music
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Old 15th February 2003, 08:30   #12
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I always use VBR, because VBR is cooler than CBR...I use LAME with the following settings ("--alt-preset standard" is for people too lazy to read the usage file, or too uninformed to understand it...) and get an average bitrate that's usually between ~160 and ~192 kbps:

-h -v -d -V 1 -b 80 -B 256
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i use ogg vorbis, that's native VBR... so yeah, VBR = good.

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Old 16th February 2003, 03:19   #14
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There is no reason to avoid VBR. When it was first getting attention, not all players would play them correctly and not all CDs burned with them would play without skipping. This has not been a problem, as far as I know, for at least two years. The better encoders use VBR as default. I still get strange readouts on song times, but I can live with that!
Also, I use the LAME "--alt-preset standard" because, after studying the command lines and flags, I concluded that I would choose the features of that preset anyway. No laziness at all.

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Old 16th February 2003, 04:28   #15
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NEVER rip MP3s to VBR using MusicMatch... You'll get a bunch of VBR files without the right headers and Winamp will read them wrong and report the wrong file time and... arrgh, it just royally fucks them up.

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never USE MusicMatch, period. Terrible software...just plain terrible.
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