Old 20th July 2012, 20:21   #1
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playlist 'flyover'

Does anyone know which version of winamp will show the contents of a playlist file when the mouse pointer flies over it?

I found this to be an extremely helpful feature. I am using v5.601 and it doesn't seem to do it, unless there is an option to turn it on.

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Old 2nd January 2013, 15:05   #2
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Old 2nd January 2013, 15:36   #3
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Do you mean displaying the metadata/tags of a playlist item while in the playlist editor? Than is not a native function of Winamp. You may have had a plug such as DrO's TipTop plug-in.

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i would also strongly suggest using 5.63

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Old 3rd January 2013, 01:39   #5
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This feature was actually visible when viewing the playlist file in windows explorer.

So come to think of it, it must have been a feature of the operating system.

(was using Windows XP vs Windows 7 now)

Are the features of 5.63 the same as 5.601?

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This feature was actually visible when viewing the playlist file in windows explorer.

So come to think of it, it must have been a feature of the operating system.

(was using Windows XP vs Windows 7 now)
kind of sounds like an add on dbpoweramp had.

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Are the features of 5.63 the same as 5.601?

Thanks for the replies!
5.63 should do everything 5.601 did and a lot more, plus bug fixes. (does 5.601 still get album art? thats been removed but i doubt it works now in any ver)

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Old 3rd January 2013, 07:32   #7
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does 5.601 still get album art? thats been removed but i doubt it works now in any ver
it behaves just like 5.63 as the site api which was called gives a null-response irrespective of the Winamp version (it's just that 5.63 doesn't provide the UI elements to avoid people trying to use what is known to not be there).

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You can import playlists to the media library and view their contents that way. Not as handy as a "flyover", but is another alternative to Windows Explorer's file viewer.

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Old 3rd January 2013, 20:17   #9
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thanks for the info.
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Hi md1234,

If you do import playlists to the media library, they are not automatically updated if you make changes to any of the playlists. The old playlists must be deleted and the new ones imported to show the changes.

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and you can manually change the location to the playlist in playlists.xml (once the playlist has been created in the library - can just be an empty new playlist) so it can then be the 'same' playlist rather than the copy that Winamp makes.

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Exactly how is that done? Below is an example of a list from playlists.xml and I don't see how to change the location.

<playlist title="Christmas Mix" seconds="22823" songs="108" id="{26030DE2-19A9-41EA-8147-879AA08ED8BF}" filename="plf3C2D.m3u8"/>

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Exactly how is that done? Below is an example of a list from playlists.xml and I don't see how to change the location.

<playlist title="Christmas Mix" seconds="22823" songs="108" id="{26030DE2-19A9-41EA-8147-879AA08ED8BF}" filename="plf3C2D.m3u8"/>
Nevermind, I figured out why I couldn't get it to work.

Simply replacing the filenames with the path + filenames of the original playlists was causing Winamp to crash when trying to view the contents of the playlists in the media library.

Then I remembered that I had set the read only attribute on the original playlists to prevent inadvertent changes and that the media library playlists are rewritten even if you only view them. Once I disabled the read only attribute (allowing the original playlists to be rewritten), everything worked fine.

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hmm, those playlists shouldn't be being re-written if you've not made any changes to them. will have to log that as something to be investigated (as the custom override isn't a well known thing that can be done probably for such things like that).

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Maybe the dev of that code decided it was simpler to rewrite playlist files, that are opened, than to bother with tracking if any changes are made to them.

I expect most users don't bother with manually changing file attributes, but it would have been nicer to popup an error or warning that a file could not be written rather than crashing.

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i doubt anyone thought someone would manually change it to point at an external read-only file either and the person that originally wrote it is long gone (as this originates from the 2.9x gen_ml.dll before everything was split out in to separate ml_* files).

anyhow, i've changed it to only re-write if there were actually detected changes (which should also save a little bit of time when closing and more so with a large playlist being open on exit).

i've also been able to replicate the crash with a read-only (and a missing) file so have fixed it not to crash. will also look to add some form of message to indicate there was an error (the translators are going to love me).

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Thanx for making the improvements.

I had not thought of the missing file angle. Maybe you could just have the color change like what is done in the playlist editor for missing files.

As to the read-only, the Alt+3 tag editor already pops up a message for that. Maybe you could use that dialog box.

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yeah, that's what i was thinking of doing anyway and just changing the wording to make it more playlist-centric. either way it's all committed so will be part of the 2014 release.

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