Old 13th December 2003, 07:44   #561
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Hmmm... There's a bug in the Media Library that is still unfixed:
Go to Preferences > Media Library > Media Importing tab > Add folder > (select any folder and select it on the list) > Edit selected button > uncheck Add subfolders. It just ignores it and adds all the goddamned subfolders...
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Old 13th December 2003, 08:24   #562
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Hi,

Ive noticed a couple of small bugs in the last release.
Not major problems but time consuming, to say.

System Specs:

ATHLON XP-M @ 2.6GHZ
ATI RADEON 9000 64MB - M
1024 DDR
120 GIG / 60 External
SOUNBLASTER EXTIGY over USB 2.0 (support for 1.1 only - not sure)
WIN XP SP1 with all service packs
Drivers are also all at latest release

Firstly when installing the latest build and upgrading from winamp3 afterwards the stereo sound is processed through the front and center speakers and not sent to the rear speakers (5.1), I know this is not expected and lots of plugins exist to deal with this, but in all latest builds from winamp2 and 3 it was automatically processed through 5.1 speakers, this may lie in the mixer driver but since I have encountered the same problem with Musicmatch Jukebox and Several other players I am ruling this out.
(Hats off for the Nullsoft team as other commercial systems did not deal with this issue, winamp was prepared for it!)

Solution to this problem is to install Dee3 with winamp5 and disable all effects, then the output will be through all speakers. Now the one thing which should be kept in mind is that the Extigy comes with CMSS which should make all stereo music 5.1 capable. But again I am ruling this out. I also tried fixing the mixer driver (that used to be a problem related to 3 speaker only output), but that did not solve it so the only option I was left with was Dee3.
-------------

Secondly, one bug related to the Media Library, when pausing tracks that were played straight from the media library and trying to play another track from the media library or playlist winamp5 seems confused on what to do, it will show the right file info, but it seems to be unable to play the newly selected track until you restart winamp.
-------------

Another bug which I have found with streaming media is extreme crackling with some Ambient sounds (I am sure this is mixer related but Ill mention it anyway, because it never happened in winamp3), and its not the usual crackeling you can expect from USB transfers, it is very loud and low frequency, when reverting to a normal song on the HD (which I must mention is also IDE over USB) no problems with the sound occur.

I am aware of USB limitations even in USB2.0 which relate to data transfer rates and CPU usage, which can cause crackeling but it is not similar to the crackeling produced by some streaming media stations.
-------------

Well a couple of bugs lead to a few.
Ive noticed another issue with skin changing (probably has been posted already, its fairly obvious). When downloading a skin, it will install the skin no problem, when reverting back to the default winamp modern skin, no problems, but when trying to change skin via right click in winamp after that it wont change the skin until you restart winamp5.


Other than that I find the new winamp5 layout et al excellent, especially the media library - very convenient.

And off course the headbanging Llamas!!!
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Old 13th December 2003, 09:52   #563
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I already reported two bugs in here :http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....49#post1190549

I'll be more precise as they remain in the last beta.

Windows XP SP1
Winamp 5 RC 666
Athlon 850 - 256 Mo
Sound AC'97 onboard

1) The button going right ...
Not really important but I report it anyway ...
-> Choose a "Winamp 2 Style" Skin
-> Open Playlist
-> Minimize it
-> Do a "Drag-and-drop" anywhere of the "Maximize Button"
-> When your mouse cursor leaves the button, it goes to the right (1 pixel ...)

2) The Web Info unreadables : very annoying ...
-> With a skin I made, I have a library with dark letters on a bright background.
-> When I toggle "Show Infos" on to see the CD cover, the web page that appears have the same colors as my skin (I tried several colors) but :
- the page background is the dark one
- the table that is the text background is the bright one
- the letters stay white or very bright blue
=> So the white text out of the bright background is unreadable.
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Old 13th December 2003, 13:44   #564
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Hmmm... There's a bug in the Media Library that is still unfixed:
Go to Preferences > Media Library > Media Importing tab > Add folder > (select any folder and select it on the list) > Edit selected button > uncheck Add subfolders. It just ignores it and adds all the goddamned subfolders...
Reproduced.

After making changes, and closing & reopening Winamp,
the -Recurse option returns back to Default

Report sent
Thank you
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Old 13th December 2003, 13:52   #565
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Hi,

Ive noticed a couple of small bugs in the last release.
Not major problems but time consuming, to say.

System Specs:

ATHLON XP-M @ 2.6GHZ
ATI RADEON 9000 64MB - M
1024 DDR
120 GIG / 60 External
SOUNBLASTER EXTIGY over USB 2.0 (support for 1.1 only - not sure)
WIN XP SP1 with all service packs
Drivers are also all at latest release

Firstly when installing the latest build and upgrading from winamp3 afterwards the stereo sound is processed through the front and center speakers and not sent to the rear speakers (5.1), I know this is not expected and lots of plugins exist to deal with this, but in all latest builds from winamp2 and 3 it was automatically processed through 5.1 speakers, this may lie in the mixer driver but since I have encountered the same problem with Musicmatch Jukebox and Several other players I am ruling this out.
(Hats off for the Nullsoft team as other commercial systems did not deal with this issue, winamp was prepared for it!)

Solution to this problem is to install Dee3 with winamp5 and disable all effects, then the output will be through all speakers. Now the one thing which should be kept in mind is that the Extigy comes with CMSS which should make all stereo music 5.1 capable. But again I am ruling this out. I also tried fixing the mixer driver (that used to be a problem related to 3 speaker only output), but that did not solve it so the only option I was left with was Dee3.
-------------

Secondly, one bug related to the Media Library, when pausing tracks that were played straight from the media library and trying to play another track from the media library or playlist winamp5 seems confused on what to do, it will show the right file info, but it seems to be unable to play the newly selected track until you restart winamp.
-------------

Another bug which I have found with streaming media is extreme crackling with some Ambient sounds (I am sure this is mixer related but Ill mention it anyway, because it never happened in winamp3), and its not the usual crackeling you can expect from USB transfers, it is very loud and low frequency, when reverting to a normal song on the HD (which I must mention is also IDE over USB) no problems with the sound occur.

I am aware of USB limitations even in USB2.0 which relate to data transfer rates and CPU usage, which can cause crackeling but it is not similar to the crackeling produced by some streaming media stations.
-------------

Well a couple of bugs lead to a few.
Ive noticed another issue with skin changing (probably has been posted already, its fairly obvious). When downloading a skin, it will install the skin no problem, when reverting back to the default winamp modern skin, no problems, but when trying to change skin via right click in winamp after that it wont change the skin until you restart winamp5.


Other than that I find the new winamp5 layout et al excellent, especially the media library - very convenient.

And off course the headbanging Llamas!!!
Alas, I can't reproduce any of these.

There is very little connection between Winamp 5.0 and Winamp3
Winamp 5 is the direct upgrade from Winamp 2.9x
Winamp3 was a different product, built on a different engine entirely.

TSGH -> Multiple Speaker Output

Adjusting some of the DirectSound Output settings might fix most of your problems.

Apart from that, I'd guess that most of your issues are Extigy/driver related.
Beats me why people are still being fooled into buying Creative soundcards?
Then again, if you're connected via a USB v1.1 slot instead of 2.0,
this could well explain everything...
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Old 13th December 2003, 14:04   #566
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1. The Official Winamp 2x Bug List

Latest Update : 28/09/01

A plethora of KNOWN skin-related bugs can be found here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=60750
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=60951

Note: These cannot be fixed
http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/winamp2x/dev/skins/faq.jhtml -> #4


2. That would be a problem with YOUR skin, and one that you will need to work out yourself. Try the Classic Skins forum maybe.
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Old 13th December 2003, 14:40   #567
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Media Library double-click issue

In the Album window in the Local Media->Audio section of the Media Library:

I am using an Microsoft Intellimouse with one of the buttons assigned as "Double-Click". When I use this to select an album to play, Winamp always plays what was previously highlighted in this window instead. This problem does not seem occur in any of the other Media Library windows, and does not occur if I double-click manually.

I'm running Win2K SP4, and Winamp 5.0rc666, however this problem occurred on all versions of Winamp 5 that I've had, I don't remember whether it happened with Winamp 2.
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Old 13th December 2003, 14:59   #568
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@ fabien1309

1. The Official Winamp 2x Bug List

Latest Update : 28/09/01

A plethora of KNOWN skin-related bugs can be found here:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=60750
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=60951

Note: These cannot be fixed
http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/winamp2x/dev/skins/faq.jhtml -> #4


2. That would be a problem with YOUR skin, and one that you will need to work out yourself. Try the Classic Skins forum maybe.
1. Sorry for the duplicates ... I just thought it could be corrected in WA5 ...

2. I tried ! But the background value and the foreground value are the same for library and "Web infos" except they are inversed ! I think we should have a custom font color for the web infos.
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Old 13th December 2003, 19:34   #569
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Tooltips doesn't show up when Freetype rendering disabled

All tooltips doesn't show up, but the box container for the tooltips do, when Freetype TTF rendering is disabled from the Modern Skin preference.

Hardware:
Intel Celeron 2.2GHz
256MB DDR266 RAM
Realtek AC97 Audio
Ati Radeon 9000 Pro

Software:
Windows XP Pro with SP1 (support for East-Asian languages enabled)
Winamp 5 RC 666

How to reproduce bug:
1. Install winamp50rc666_full.exe
2. In Preference, Skins->Modern Skins->Font Rendering, uncheck "Use Freetype internal TTF Rendering"
3. Hover over something that should produce a tooltip window on the main window and the tooltip container is displayed, but not with the tooltip. (see attached file. it has bitmap font display disabled, but the bug is still there even when it is enabled)

(This bug doesn't appear when using classic skins)

I hope this helps. Please look into this problem.

Thank you for Winamp. It just rocks.
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Old 13th December 2003, 19:41   #570
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because it's copyrighted by microsoft?

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Old 13th December 2003, 19:59   #571
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Internationalization not supported with *.ogg files

When I add *.ogg file onto my playlist, the performer and title information is not displayed correctly. issue with Unicode conversion perhaps? the title is displayed fine in file info window. I tried to use Winamp2 version of in_vorbis.dll with Winamp5 but it didn't help.

version : rc666
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Old 13th December 2003, 21:01   #572
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Bug: Config button broked

Whenever I hit the config button, the video window opens up with the video button missing and no actual video. I end up having to detach the video window in order to close it. I hope that I explained that well enough. I'm using RC666 with the modern skin, though it had been doing it since RC8 I think. WinXP Pro SP1.
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Old 13th December 2003, 21:32   #573
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@ peasant
Yup, it's been discussed before, a few pages back.
afaik, Internal Freetype TTF Rendering is required for tooltips in modern skins, which is why that option is 'on' by default.

@ chajath
Known issue
(as one example, though it has been posted/reported many many times)

@ GodImBitter
Can't reproduce.
In the modern skin, the 'config' button opens the config drawer only
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Old 13th December 2003, 23:40   #574
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CDDB support broken

hi there,

unfortunately, CDDB doesn't work for me. I have two computers running Windows XP and RC666, and they both can't retrieve CDDB track infos... nothing happens when I select the CD drive in the media library, and when I right-click a track, go to track info and click cddb, it says 'retrieving'...'success', but only seems to return 'Unknown Artist', 'Unknown Album' etc...

I just called a friend and asked him to insert a CD and select it in the library... as soon as he clicks on his CD drive in the media library, the small CDDB box pops up, says 'success', et voilà, the title informations are inherited into the media library track list...
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Old 14th December 2003, 00:20   #575
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So if it works for everyone else but you,
why did you post in the Bug Reports thread?
Obviously, it's not a bug, yes?

Make sure you're using the Full version, not Lite
(though cddb might also be included in Lite, but I didn't test it)

Make sure the correct connection type is selected in:
Prefs (Ctrl+P) -> General Preferences

Make sure CDDB is enabled
Prefs -> Plugins -> Input -> Nullsoft CD plugin -> config:
Checkmark "use cddb"
(requires winamp restart to take effect)

Make sure no 3rd-party plugin is installed from a previous installation,
eg. CDReader plugin


And finally, and most importantly, make sure your firewall is configured to allow Winamp full internet access. You do run a firewall, yes?
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Old 14th December 2003, 00:27   #576
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Latest bug fixes (as recently reported here) for Winamp 5.0 Final

* fixed AVS win98 crash on close bug
* fixed in_nsv dsp plugin support
* fixed gen_ml -recurse bug

full list is in the attachment here (but doesn't include these 3)
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* fixed in_nsv dsp plugin support
Woohoo, thank god!
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Old 14th December 2003, 01:07   #578
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Running rc666, Winamp crashes a few seconds after starting a song when logged into WinXP with restricted rights, ie. read-only access to Program Files folders.

It would be useful if Winamp could use a Home folder (location stored in the registry) for storing Winamp.ini and Winamp.m3u, or default to a My Documents folder.

in_vorbis still not fixed when a stream is interrupted due to internet problem etc. Sure Peter gave you the source!
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It would be useful if Winamp could use a Home folder (location stored in the registry) for storing Winamp.ini and Winamp.m3u, or default to a My Documents folder.
While I understand the benefits of doing this, I myself like it the way it is, eveything in the /Winamp directory. Makes it easy to deal with and backup and stuff.
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Old 14th December 2003, 02:54   #580
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Why not install winamp in a dir that you as the user have access to.

Why make something idiot proof?? Someone will only make a better idiot!
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Old 14th December 2003, 03:48   #581
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I imagine Multi-user support will be a POST 5.0 thing.
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Old 14th December 2003, 04:10   #582
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This bug was already posted by another person, but without reply.

System:
Dual AMD 2000; 1Gb memory; AC'97
WinXP SP1 (+East Asian language support);WinAmp 5.0RC666 clean w/o 3rd party plugins

WinAmp not responce after push comp into StandBy mode (aka sleeping) and resume.
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Old 14th December 2003, 06:03   #583
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I imagine Multi-user support will be a POST 5.0 thing.
Yup, it's in the wishlist. Maybe for 5.01 or later, hopefully.

There's always the Profiler plugin...


@ Nino-kun
It's been reported to the devs
Now we just need to find someone that actually uses Standby...
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Now we just need to find someone that actually uses Standby...
I use it all the time on my laptop. Useless for desktop comps.
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Re: Re: @DJ Egg and wdekler

StartupList report, 12/14/2003, 2:50:28 AM
StartupList version: 1.52
Started from : C:\DOCUME~1\LUNASE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX23.614\StartupList.EXE
Detected: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
Detected: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
* Using default options
==================================================

Running processes:

C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\mainserv.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\PFWShared\cfgintpr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\GEARSec.exe
C:\Program Files\NMapWin\bin\nmapserv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\Program Files\TPF4\umxagent.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ups.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Logitech\iTouch\iTouch.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\LEXMAR~1\ACMonitor_X73.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\LEXMAR~1\AcBtnMgr_X73.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\rundll32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTHELPER.EXE
C:\Program Files\Logitech\MouseWare\system\em_exec.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\NT_USDM.exe
C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\apcsystray.exe
C:\Program Files\Winamp\winamp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\BitTorrent\btdownloadgui.exe
C:\Program Files\BitTorrent\btdownloadgui.exe
C:\Program Files\Trillian\trillian.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\PFWSHA~1\uagui.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\LUNASE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX23.614\StartupList.exe
Quote:
Originally posted by DJ Egg
Provide the following information:

A full list of startup programs & concurrently running apps
(you can use startuplist for this, and attach the results txt file to a new post)

Confirmation that you've done a clean install, with NO 3rd-party plugins.
Detailed uninstall -> reinstall instructions are here

And remind us of your relevant system specs
mobo/cpu, windows os, graphics card, directx

Also, just try it with say 20 or 30 skins in your skins dir at first.
Then keep adding more.
I'm not counting out the possibility that it could be because you've got 200+ skins, but there's no way I'm installing that many old wsz skins . . . of course, if someone else wants to give it a go, then please be my guest.

eg.

Open Winamp with classic skin
Resize playlist to taste
Close Winamp
Remove all .wal skins (you can keep 'winamp modern' installed)
Place 100 or more wsz skins in Skins dir
Reopen Winamp (note: playlist size should still be same as it was before)
Checkmark: Prefs -> Skins -> random skin on play

Does the playlist window restore to default size each time the skin changes on trackchange? I've tried it with 30+ wsz files, and the answer to that question is "no". Cannot Reproduce!


Oh, and show us where someone else has reported this bug!
That other person would be me I edited the orginal for readability.

Quote:
Originally posted by Lunas
The winamp size problem still exists if you want I can upload my winamp directory to you.

I have tried reinstalling fresh according to the directions posted and all other sorts of things. In rc 10 you had it so I was able to easily hard code the size. However some entries were removed in rc666. The winamp ini is still not saving the size with classic skins and it is not read only.
to be accurate the bug first occured in beta 2 was fixed in rc8 and broken agian in rc10
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The resize bug of the play list is back every time the song switches while random skin is set it reverts to default sizes

winamp 5 rc10 was fixed in rc8 is now broken agian in rc10

now i cant get it to work agian in rc8

can you include a part where we could manualy set the dementions of the play list like define it as a set 45 x 180 or what not
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Old 14th December 2003, 09:11   #586
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@ Lunas

ok, first things first...

What's with that screenshot?
Why are there two playlist windows?

Is this a doctored image?
eg. to show the previous playlist size with the previous skin,
and then the 'back to default' size of the new skin after it changes?


Secondly, what about my other questions? eg.
-system specs (including graphics card & drivers version)
-confirmation of clean install
(following instructions laid out, making sure you backup skins first, etc)
-with no 3rd-party plugins
-and how many classic skins you have installed

ok, I know you said you did a clean install, but I just want to be sure that you uninstalled via Add/Rem Programs, and deleted the Winamp dir and
%windows%\winamp.ini - before installing rc666 -
and that, on opening Winamp, you made changes to the playlist size,
then closed winamp and reopened it,
and whether the playlist opened with the new size (as it should)
or the default size...


What you can also do is upload
winamp.ini and studio.xnf
zip them together in 1 zip file and ATTACH it to a post (c/o 'post a reply' feature)


Ok, now on to the startuplist...
cool, loads of concurrently running cpu-intensive apps,
but where's the rest of the list?
ie. the most important bits (startup programs, BHO's, etc)
The list is as good as useless unless it's complete.


Running processes analysis:

Here's a lovely one to start off with:
C:\Program Files\NMapWin\bin\nmapserv.exe
http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/n...win_1_2_12.asp


C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTHELPER.EXE
Aah, Creative's wonderful CTHelper
See what they've got to say about it here:
http://www.lafn.org/webconnect/mento...p/PENINDEX.HTM
(search the page for cthelper)

QUOTE
Required: No

CTHELPER is a background task that is a plug-in manager for Creative drivers. The theory is that 3rd party manufacturers can use the CTHELPER plug-in interface to produce drivers, add-on features, and fixes that will integrate with a tighter fit with Creative’s sound drivers and utilities. Given its purpose CTHELPER would normally be classified as a "leave alone" background task. Unfortunately there are often problems with CTHELPER, most notably that it can use 100% of CPU time, so it's best left disabled.
/UNQUOTE


C:\WINDOWS\system32\NT_USDM.exe
EPoX motherboard monitoring utility?


These are something to do with Tiny Personal Firewall, yes?
C:\Program Files\TPF4\umxagent.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\PFWShared\cfgintpr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\PFWSHA~1\uagui.exe
(no results on google for uagui.exe)


C:\WINDOWS\System32\GEARSec.exe
Something to do with Apple QuickTime iPod/iTunes CDRW support?


PowerChute PE
C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\mainserv.exe
C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\apcsystray.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ups.exe
Looks harmless enough, not sure why you'd need it though


Hmm, what does that leave?

Standard WinXP services
Winrar
Logitech iTouch & mouseware utilities
Lexmark printer utilities
Trillian
2 BitTorrent sessions
Rundll32, but doesn't specify which DLL it's running...
Winamp


All in all, quite heavy stuff there actually.


Hmm, could be a conflict going on there...
but I really need to see the FULL startuplist, and get those other questions answered as well. Then we'll have a full bug report to work on. Though still no-one else can reproduce this problem, except for 2 people here (or was there a 3rd?) . . . which is enough to assume there IS an issue . . . but determining what it actually is could be the hardest part.

The main question being:
Why aren't the settings getting saved to winamp.ini for you,
but they are for everyone else?

Relevant settings being:

pe_wx=
pe_wy=
pe_width=
pe_height=



Does the problem persist if you shutdown most (if not all) of ^that^ stuff?


And are you definitely logged-on with an administrator account?
(ie. not a limited user account)


Awaiting your reply...
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@ Lunas

ok, first things first...

What's with that screenshot?
Why are there two playlist windows?

Is this a doctored image?
eg. to show the previous playlist size with the previous skin,
and then the 'back to default' size of the new skin after it changes?


Secondly, what about my other questions? eg.
-system specs (including graphics card & drivers version)
-confirmation of clean install
(following instructions laid out, making sure you backup skins first, etc)
-with no 3rd-party plugins
-and how many classic skins you have installed

ok, I know you said you did a clean install, but I just want to be sure that you uninstalled via Add/Rem Programs, and deleted the Winamp dir and
%windows%\winamp.ini - before installing rc666 -
and that, on opening Winamp, you made changes to the playlist size,
then closed winamp and reopened it,
and whether the playlist opened with the new size (as it should)
or the default size...


What you can also do is upload
winamp.ini and studio.xnf
zip them together in 1 zip file and ATTACH it to a post (c/o 'post a reply' feature)


Ok, now on to the startuplist...
cool, loads of concurrently running cpu-intensive apps,
but where's the rest of the list?
ie. the most important bits (startup programs, BHO's, etc)
The list is as good as useless unless it's complete.


Running processes analysis:

Here's a lovely one to start off with:
C:\Program Files\NMapWin\bin\nmapserv.exe
http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/n...win_1_2_12.asp


C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTHELPER.EXE
Aah, Creative's wonderful CTHelper
See what they've got to say about it here:
http://www.lafn.org/webconnect/mento...p/PENINDEX.HTM
(search the page for cthelper)

QUOTE
Required: No

CTHELPER is a background task that is a plug-in manager for Creative drivers. The theory is that 3rd party manufacturers can use the CTHELPER plug-in interface to produce drivers, add-on features, and fixes that will integrate with a tighter fit with Creative’s sound drivers and utilities. Given its purpose CTHELPER would normally be classified as a "leave alone" background task. Unfortunately there are often problems with CTHELPER, most notably that it can use 100% of CPU time, so it's best left disabled.
/UNQUOTE


C:\WINDOWS\system32\NT_USDM.exe
EPoX motherboard monitoring utility?


These are something to do with Tiny Personal Firewall, yes?
C:\Program Files\TPF4\umxagent.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\PFWShared\cfgintpr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\PFWSHA~1\uagui.exe
(no results on google for uagui.exe)


C:\WINDOWS\System32\GEARSec.exe
Something to do with Apple QuickTime iPod/iTunes CDRW support?


PowerChute PE
C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\mainserv.exe
C:\Program Files\APC\APC PowerChute Personal Edition\apcsystray.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ups.exe
Looks harmless enough, not sure why you'd need it though


Hmm, what does that leave?

Standard WinXP services
Winrar
Logitech iTouch & mouseware utilities
Lexmark printer utilities
Trillian
2 BitTorrent sessions
Rundll32, but doesn't specify which DLL it's running...
Winamp


All in all, quite heavy stuff there actually.


Hmm, could be a conflict going on there...
but I really need to see the FULL startuplist, and get those other questions answered as well. Then we'll have a full bug report to work on. Though still no-one else can reproduce this problem, except for 2 people here (or was there a 3rd?) . . . which is enough to assume there IS an issue . . . but determining what it actually is could be the hardest part.

The main question being:
Why aren't the settings getting saved to winamp.ini for you,
but they are for everyone else?

Relevant settings being:

pe_wx=
pe_wy=
pe_width=
pe_height=



Does the problem persist if you shutdown most (if not all) of ^that^ stuff?


And are you definitely logged-on with an administrator account?
(ie. not a limited user account)


Awaiting your reply...
the screen shot is what it appears as immediately after the resize the old size partialy stays until the next song or playlist is clicked no doctoring at all and only 1 instance of winamp loaded

here is my system info
-windows xp pro all updates
-512 meg pc2700 ram
-128mb msi gf 4 4200 newest dets from nvidia
-sblive xgamer classic newest drivers from creative

clean install:
-selected all skins ziped them and moved elsewhere
-control panel -> add/remove -> winamp

Yes delete all then I confirmed the winamp directory was gone
it was. Located rc666 installer and ran not enabling the agent to run
I then set my settings for my visualization

fire
thin lines
fast fall off
slow peaks

I then took the rar with only the skins in it and put them back in the skin directory.

Total skins: 662


The attached file is the current winamp.ini studio.xnf and the full startup list document.

The winamp and studio files are from a fresh load on my machine. And now for some reason the size is increased but still does not save.

I am the admin on the machine and I cleaned up my startup.
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Old 14th December 2003, 14:03   #588
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Yup, it's been discussed before, a few pages back.
afaik, Internal Freetype TTF Rendering is required for tooltips in modern skins, which is why that option is 'on' by default.
I tried to check before I post the bug report; guess I missed that.

Will the bug be resolved in the final version?
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Old 14th December 2003, 15:28   #589
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@ Lunas

Alas, I don't have anything installed to open RAR archives.
Zip please. Otherwise, I'll have to pass on that one

(/goes to look for some small freebie to handle rar only)


@ peasant
so, you reckon this is a bug then?
ie. you NEED to disable internal freetype font rendering?
(as I said, I think it's required for tooltips, amongst other features)
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Old 14th December 2003, 15:33   #590
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So if it works for everyone else but you,
why did you post in the Bug Reports thread?
Obviously, it's not a bug, yes?

Make sure you're using the Full version, not Lite
(though cddb might also be included in Lite, but I didn't test it)

Make sure the correct connection type is selected in:
Prefs (Ctrl+P) -> General Preferences

Make sure CDDB is enabled
Prefs -> Plugins -> Input -> Nullsoft CD plugin -> config:
Checkmark "use cddb"
(requires winamp restart to take effect)

Make sure no 3rd-party plugin is installed from a previous installation,
eg. CDReader plugin


And finally, and most importantly, make sure your firewall is configured to allow Winamp full internet access. You do run a firewall, yes?
I posted this here because it IS a bug
I'm using the full version
I have enabled CDDB
I don't even have had a previous installation on that second computer
I haven't installed any 3rd-party plugin
I am NOT running a firewall
I am NOT completely dumb
and I did NOT complain about the fact that Winamp doesn't automatically check the cddb for track information - I have intentionally set my connection preferences to 'not connected to the internet'. But if I _am_ connected to the internet and then manually trigger a CDDB query, it just does fucking nothing but telling me about 'success' that never happens. This is not an issue on my side, but a bug in Winamp. It's perfectly okay that it doesn't automatically connect to the CDDB, but it shouldn't tell me about a successful query and then insert crap like Unknown Artist and stuff when I, and I say this again, manually query the CDDB. Please don't consider me to be a blithering idiot, I have well checked any possible reason for this issue before posting in this forums
Oh and... just FYI, after the CDDB has been queried, Winamp re-reads all ID3 information on the playlist (even if I haven't yet enqueued the CD in the media library)... not very funny, because in the latest release, the title formatting is broken... makes your playlist really, really ugly (I have no clue why it's refreshing the playlist anyway... I mean, why does the media library tell the playlist to refresh after a CDDB query... )
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Old 14th December 2003, 15:39   #591
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Oh... Something else just came up my mind... Winamp is installed into the current user's account by default... I.e. other users don't get the start menu entries, quick launch icons etc... Maybe you should either give the user the choice whether Winamp should be installed for all users on the machine or just for the current user, or install it for all users on the machine (which is afaik the recommended and usual way for multiuser environments on Windows)
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Old 14th December 2003, 15:42   #592
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The way I see it . . .
You have two choices:

Either use cddb and select the correct internet connection type,
or disable cddb.

You see, if your original bug report would've included all this extra information in the first place, then you might've received a different response.

Oh well . . . I give in then.
Someone else can deal with this thread for the last day of beta.

I need a break.

kthxbye


ps. multi-user support isn't implemented.
Hopefully for 5.01 or later.
For now, install to the main admin account, and use the
Winamp Profiler plugin
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Old 14th December 2003, 16:00   #593
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well, okay mate, guess you are right, my original posting lacked that information but can you put both issues (guess CDDB is more important) on the internal bug list (if you have access to it? don't know? or are the admins reading this thread every now and then?)

multi-user support would be neat, very neat even... but is not really necessary at the moment - it's the installer and not Winamp itself that installs into the wrong directories anyway, it would be great if that could be fixed for the final...
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Oh well . . . I give in then.
Someone else can deal with this thread for the last day of beta.

I need a break.
*appluase* well done so far.
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Old 14th December 2003, 18:19   #595
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Alas, I don't have anything installed to open RAR archives.
Zip please. Otherwise, I'll have to pass on that one

(/goes to look for some small freebie to handle rar only)
the program you would be looking for is winrar it is shareware with a 30 day trial it handles zip and rar and many other files i think ultamate zip also handles them
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WA5 Quit, Randomly...

I was just listening to an mp3 (Everclear - Local God) playing in WA5rc666 under Win2kSP4 with an Audigy. Someone came into my room and I chatted for a minute, then when they left, I noticed that the music had stopped. Reflexively I tried to click Play, only to find that WA5 was no longer running! On starting it up, all the settings I changed since I last shut WA5 down by hand have gone. No error messages received.

What's the deal?

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Modern skin:
i dunno if this a bug - there seems to be a problem with the timers (timer resolution). It's either the text scrolling is choppy or the visualization is moving like crazy. any animations (even simple ones, alpha blending or drawers) slows down everything and cranks up CPU to 100%. this was not a problem with the previous beta versions or WA3.
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Old 14th December 2003, 21:36   #598
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MMD3 Mini-Playlist

when using the MMD3 skin in winshade mode, the mini-playlist that slides down no longer allows you to rearrange the list or even add new files to the playlist...


if you hit the [pl] button which pops open the Playlist Window.. there are no problems..


i'm not certain if this is a bug, or just a new way of doing things in Winamp 5, but in winamp3, using the same skin, you could drop down the mini playlist and drop files in...


i've noticed this using Winamp5rc666 and all previous versions..

nara fugu
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Old 14th December 2003, 23:56   #599
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Re: MMD3 Mini-Playlist

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when using the MMD3 skin in winshade mode, the mini-playlist that slides down no longer allows you to rearrange the list or even add new files to the playlist...


if you hit the [pl] button which pops open the Playlist Window.. there are no problems..


i'm not certain if this is a bug, or just a new way of doing things in Winamp 5, but in winamp3, using the same skin, you could drop down the mini playlist and drop files in...


i've noticed this using Winamp5rc666 and all previous versions..

nara fugu

Report this to the 3rd Party Skin Maker, its not Winamp's fault.
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Old 14th December 2003, 23:57   #600
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WA5 Quit, Randomly...

I was just listening to an mp3 (Everclear - Local God) playing in WA5rc666 under Win2kSP4 with an Audigy. Someone came into my room and I chatted for a minute, then when they left, I noticed that the music had stopped. Reflexively I tried to click Play, only to find that WA5 was no longer running! On starting it up, all the settings I changed since I last shut WA5 down by hand have gone. No error messages received.

What's the deal?

J
Make sure u are running the latest Audigy drivers.
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