Old 14th February 2003, 21:02   #1
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i wanna be steven wittens

I don't know...
A pack called 'i wanna be frank nagel' was released after he left AVS (i think), so it would be nice to make a tribute pack to UnConed, based on remixes of his presets. tell me what you think...

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Old 14th February 2003, 21:06   #2
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He's not 100% left so sorrry...

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Old 17th February 2003, 10:15   #3
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Old 24th February 2003, 08:40   #4
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i was having thoughts about that, but then remembered that he's still hanging around, (if)he does go, then i would be a good idea
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Old 24th February 2003, 11:45   #5
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I think we should do it as he had said that 'there will be no Whacko VII', so what's the harm, because I think he is the greatest avs maker
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As he has still not left avs, then maybe he too can contribute

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Old 24th February 2003, 18:59   #6
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and if you believe that, i've got some good land down in louisiana i can sell you...

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Old 25th February 2003, 07:19   #7
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cool what price??
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Old 25th February 2003, 10:05   #8
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I think we should, cause he is one of my fave AVSers,

The thing that impressed me most about him was the way that he pushed the limits of AVS, and made things previously thought impsossible, and even when he couldnt bend AVS to his divine will, he could code APEs to aid him, truly an awesome artist.
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Old 25th February 2003, 10:58   #9
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Let's stop debating the pro's an con's. Let's start making the Pack ready!

Even if he hasn't completely left, why shouldn't we???


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Old 25th February 2003, 11:27   #10
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With so much other community packs going on who has the time for this one too? Even if somebody has time, who the hell could remix UnConeD's work? Im talking about changing the code, who can be so good to edit it?

I wouldn't try even to remix them otherwise, because i think they are perfect and my fiddling would only make them look ugly

But hey, it's a free.... internet, so you can do whatever you want and if others follow then go ahead.

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Old 25th February 2003, 15:37   #11
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i think we shold ALL DO TEH DEVART TRIBUTE that everyone's ignoring.............................Only 163 (?) DAYS LEFT!!!!1111!!!1!!1111!!!!1

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Old 26th February 2003, 04:22   #12
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who the hell could remix UnConeD's work? Im talking about changing the code, who can be so good to edit it?
Not that I know everything about codind, I have remixed some of UnconeD's presets already, for e.g milkyway II.

one easy thing-in mission to mars, just add a blue unique tone after all those mountain ssc's. then you get some other planet effect .

I think we should make this remix pack.

What about starting a company or any thing of that sort, then make presets part by part.
we can vote for the best artist who hasnt retired, then make him director


and some guy with lot of money as the producer
the other artists will do drawing, some will handle camera, etc, etc
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Old 26th February 2003, 04:24   #13
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btw. magig.x, did you make all those cartoons ?

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Old 26th February 2003, 04:24   #14
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Because that kind of setup is unnecessary. These forums and deviantArt serve as a great place to collaborate to make presets, etc.
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Old 26th February 2003, 04:44   #15
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anubis: I meant to say that we can make presets together, instead of everyone making individual packs.
this would increase the overall quality of the pack.

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Old 26th February 2003, 04:47   #16
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ok, I think we should just start making 'i wanna be steven wittens'.
anyone interested can send their remixes here.
some major avs maker can review the remixes and then make a collection.

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Old 26th February 2003, 04:49   #17
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if the master avsers arent interested, then I can take charge.

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Old 26th February 2003, 05:10   #18
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Well im not interested... wait i already said that

I agree with atero, we should set our minds on other community projects since UnConeD isn't even dead yet (100% dead avster).

Anyway, carry on.

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Old 26th February 2003, 20:38   #19
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I also agree with Atero...The DA pack is a MUST and we should start making at least 40 presets for it.I did 1 lol
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Old 26th February 2003, 21:35   #20
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if the master avsers arent interested, then I can take charge.
Shouldn't I be in charge? i feel so neglected

if we start now, and we do work in our spare time, then by the time we DO get it done and all the submissions filtered for the absolute best ones, he might have left the forums by then. This doesn't have to be done, or start for that matter, for a very long time...this doesn't have to be finished soon, even being done in a year would be OK.

naming conventions:

$original name- $yourname remix

Leave the original comments in, for your own, make a new comment.

just post everything here...

and btw...there is an edit button for a reason here,

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Old 27th February 2003, 05:18   #21
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ok, Michaelthecat, you can take charge.
I have already stared making the remixes.
I think we should allow 2 remixes per artist, or a maximum of three.
post the remixes here..

Anyone Interested??
UnconeD, maybe...

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Old 27th February 2003, 22:04   #22
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no limitations, but just remember that not all submissions will be used- only the best

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Old 27th February 2003, 22:14   #23
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You guys are going to look really stupid if/when UnConeD comes back. Go ahead and make it if you want, but I'm not going to be any part of it.
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Old 28th February 2003, 04:03   #24
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Measuring Time

I think we should ask UnconeD before we make this, if he REALLY has retired.
anyway, an intro for this pack.
i used custom bpm to measure time,
modify this and submit it here.

you will need whacko avs vi instaled.
i didnt bother to include the bitmap, because most of the guys have whacko avs VI
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Old 28th February 2003, 08:45   #25
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You guys are going to look really stupid if/when UnConeD comes back.
As far as I understood it, this shall be a Tribute to UnConeD's work and not to the fact that he said he's leaving

Has a man to be dead before you can worship his work???

You're curious...


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Old 28th February 2003, 14:05   #26
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Has a man to be dead before you can worship his work???
If he does have to be dead, who has to kill him.

Shot not.

Stoke me a clipper. I'll be back for Christmas.

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Old 28th February 2003, 20:32   #27
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good work, shreyas.

remember to include the original comment too...

anubis- if he DOESN'T come back then YOU will look stupid for not helping.
if he DOES come back, we can drop the work until he DOES leave

anyways, remeber this is not time-critical. finish the devart tribute and other community packs firts before starting this

lol- speaking of UnConed, I hope THESE don't find their way here

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Old 28th February 2003, 21:24   #28
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"If he does have to be dead, who has to kill him"
I will! I will!

--Oh, wait, nevermind...

seriously tho, it shouldn't be released under a name like "i wanna be steven wittens" cos that's a dead insult to el-vis :/

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OK, I'm sorry if this is merely a tribute pack. I thought it was supposed to be a pack tributed to him because he has left. Perhaps the discussion of him leaving made it seem like this. Just try not to make it so you guys will be eating your own words though(i.e. don't say he has left forever or anything like that)).
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Old 28th February 2003, 22:44   #30
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any suggestions for a better name?

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UnCloned Until Now.

Oooh, I like that.
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Old 1st March 2003, 00:37   #32
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lol- somebody called him that once (it was a typo), I like the sound of that

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Yeah, that's what made me think of it. Plus it is a good title too(IMO).
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is anyone else interested?

is anyone except me is intereseted in making the remixes
i find that no one is contributing.
anyway, this is the first remix:::
from unconed's first pack.
Clone UnconeD. is this a good name. i dont think so.
this crossed my mind, so I am saying it.

btw. my first pack is published:
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Old 1st March 2003, 14:00   #35
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i'm working on some, but of course i won't upload. most people doing this are probably dissecting the code, which will take FOREVER so it looks worthy of UnConeD.

Clone UnConed is ok, but I still like
'UnCloned (until now)

btw- read the naming conventions!!!

$original name- $yourname remix

so Unconed - wormhole - shreyas_potnis' remix

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Old 1st March 2003, 16:57   #36
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Mind the capitalisation :P.
Btw if you're interested, here are some coding 'conventions' I usually use in my scopes and DMs:

cx,sx,cy,sy,sz,sz: cosine/sine of rx,ry,rz (rotation angles)
cr,cg,cb: red,green,blue color used as the basis for the scope
ip: alternating 1,0 or 1,-1 variable
ox,oy,oz: camera position in a world-fixed 3D SSC or a 3D DM.
ot: usually used to normalize/equalize ox,oy,oz
k, dx, dy, dz (and k2, dx3, ...): used for raytracing a DM
ix,iy,iz: raytracing DM, coordinates of intersection of ray with object
af: aspect-ratio correction multiply factor
sd1, sd2, sd3: random generator registers
t, ti: time and timeshift (onbeat)

In complicated scopes I sometimes reuse a variable as a temporary variable (not enough variables in AVS) so you'll have to watch out for that. Red,green,blue are often used as temporary vars if they appear near the top of a scope's per-point.

tpi: 2*pi
u is often a scaled value of i, used for evaluating paths (e.g. rollercoaster, da-traced logo, ...)
th,ph: often used as "theta, phi" for 3D polar coordinates
ph: sometimes used as phase for controlling the camera in a 3D dm. for example in Wolf3D, the camera can be in one of several 'modes' depending on where it is and what it has to do (face corridor, move ahead, stop and rotate, ...). Ph will have the values 1,2,3,4, for each possible phase a value.
bc: sometimes a beatcounter, when it will appear as bc=(bc+1)%8 (or different constant) in onbeat

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wow...thanks. this will make it much easier to modify your DMs.

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Won't make it easy though. His DM's are crazier than all getout.
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never said easy, just easier


let me emphasize again that this pack should be your last priority for now...do the devart pack and others first, then start this one.

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Old 1st March 2003, 23:53   #40
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You are right we should finish the more important packs first because we don't need to make the pack yet. Uncloned (until now) is a good name.

Darn, I can't think of anything to put here.
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