Old 6th May 2003, 09:33   #41
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ok then Tugg is out of the reviewer list.Welcome Degnic
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Old 6th May 2003, 10:07   #42
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That what i would like:

1: one render object
2: one dynamic movement
3: two effect lists
4: two buffers (no matter what method)
5: two trans effects except dm
6: one other render object except ssc
7: any ammount of fadeout, brightness, fast brightness and all the misc except buffer.

Post it all to a new topic, when finished we all vote for the best one. -> no need for reviewers

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Old 6th May 2003, 14:12   #43
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I'm in, too. I think I could handle that, this is type of presets I usually make

Can I have one extra trans effect if I don't use the other render object except ssc?
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Old 6th May 2003, 14:41   #44
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No other render effect.. its meant to be a flow preset, so you dont need more than one render. if you have more than one, people will submit all sorts of shit.
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OK so the list Magic posted is OK ? I agree with everything.
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Old 6th May 2003, 16:22   #46
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I'm in. I'm not sure how we can go about with the reviewing though.

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Old 6th May 2003, 18:09   #47
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Just something to start the contest
I used 1 dynamic movement, 1 convo filter, 1 color map, 2 effect lists, 2 buffers and 1 moving particle.
If the particle is a problem I can code a similar scope.
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sounds like fun, except for how it doesn't. i've already gotten a REALLY bad feeling about how this is going to turn out

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Old 6th May 2003, 20:11   #49
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You people who say they get bad feelings about things are the people who never do anything because "it'll be shit". If it doesn't turn out to well so what, it's no major loss. We might as well try, if you don't like it don't get involved. That simple. If people think it's going to turn out bad then it'll turn out bad but if we just do it maybe, perhaps something might turn out well. You never know.

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yeah well when people start flaming each other over the rules and pissing and moaning because they didn't win, don't come crying to me....

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One little question : Should optimization a factor in the outcome?

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Lets put a deadline for submission of presets, i guess that'll control the limit.


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Old 7th May 2003, 06:26   #53
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A guess max. 1 Month. That should be enough Time for all.
MAybe shorter, 2-3 weeks would also do it.


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Old 7th May 2003, 06:42   #54
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What about clear screens though, do they count as a render object or what?

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Old 7th May 2003, 07:02   #55
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As you can't do that much with a clearscreen, i'd say unlimited.

To ´make the rules clearly understandable we should i'll post a complete component list here.


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Old 7th May 2003, 08:10   #56
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how bout we start another thread for submissions with precise rules at the start, and a note directing people to this thread for general chat.
cause i can see that this wil just go on and on
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Old 7th May 2003, 08:32   #57
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and what about Misc/custom bpm, I planned to use that

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Nic01 & others: If it's a flow preset, the better it looks the faster it moves, it's as simple as that. So optimize your presets as much as you can is my advice And besides the whole idea was to make simple presets that work fast, think "newpicks"

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But i think flow presets should be slow and relaxing (UnconeD's - Camatose enlightment)
i guess devart members should put a notice on site about the contest when it is finaled.


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Old 7th May 2003, 09:31   #60
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But even the slow ones look even more relaxing with high fps

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i guess youre right.


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Old 7th May 2003, 09:55   #62
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Slow or hyperactive, doesnt metter. How about the dealdine?

Btw, only one preset per Artist right??


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has the contest been finaled???
phaze has already put up a thread for the submission of preset!!!


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Old 7th May 2003, 10:43   #64
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seems like he'S a bit impatient and wants things be get started quickly

So lets just get it on.


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the deadline is 28th may , must get started soon.....


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Neah im not impacient,it needed to be done since this thread would continue as a CAN I USE XXX or WHY NOT YYY for years...You have the rules and the deadline,shouldnt be too hard Oh and dont do too many Geiss-like presets ok ?
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you still never answered my question. Can we use an unlimited amount of Multiplies? (because it does the same thing as adding multiple fast brites, albiet faster)

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I'd just say yes.

Another difficult question: would a blend only DM count as a simple trans (as it does no movement)???


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I think only 3 to 4 multiplies should be enough, it gets too bright after that.


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5: two trans effects(General APE's allowed,like color map,texer,convolution filter,but no preset specific APEs) - no,you cant use unlimited multipliers.You can use an unlimited number of fast brightness though,even if it`s 0.5 fps slower.We had a conversation about how we try to make presets faster with 0.x frames so lets not start another one.
Magic - it is named Dynamic Movement then it is a Dynamic Movement.So no,it will count as a DM.
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I checked out the presets submited so far and I was pleasently suprised , but I must say that almost all of them require some color work. My personal oppinion is that presets that include almost every color in the spectrum are a bit crappy(there are exceptions). Check out some of the better designed presets and you'll surely notice that they only have two or three colors in them (at a time). you will also notice this in advertiseing, package design....blablabla . So my advice is grab a book about colors (this Kuppers dude made the most valid color theory so far IMO)and read about harmonies or just check out your favorite drink, bublegum,... (note that the expenisve ones are usualy better designed) and try to use the colors you see there.

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Magic - it is named Dynamic Movement then it is a Dynamic Movement.So no,it will count as a DM.
Aw, i could make that tunnel thing look much better with a bufferblender effect. I already set the fadeout to the superscope, but the movement messes it up again and so we got wrapping edges.

fsk: i didnt use all colors at the same tim (see my color morphing)

But i like to see some color theretics in your prset then


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Once the contest is over all submissions could be releaced in a pack. You all agree?
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Ok, no prob for me.


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Myself i won't even bother to check out the presets until they come out in a pack

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Btw magic...you submitted 2 presets Which one would you like to remain in the contest ? Oh and please follow the rules,like naming presets...
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Heh, mine is a nice reactive speed, no hyperactivity, and nice colour contrasts, plus it's got that great, look about it i like watching it. Anyway What's the reviewing situation, are a few people going to review the lot or should we get people who've not submitted an entry?

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The Tentacles Remix was just for fun, it doesnt count. Take the original

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Raz lets wait until the deadline or at least a few days before and then we shall ask some impartial avs-not-knowing people to judge the presets ok ? Like milkdroppers or GD people or tech dudes...4-5 people would be fine to make a jury.
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Why no Forums voting? Just post the poll to GD if you want to reach many peopel. Set a Deadline for the voting (maybe max 5 days) all but those who took part can vote.


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