Old 2nd June 2003, 22:20   #161
Raz
Forum King
 
Raz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Manchester
Posts: 6,470
The reason i did this is because it would stand out from all the other boring flow presets that you see everywhere. It flows around and morphs instead of a typical mediocre swirling around and leaving a trail type boring crap. I am so sorry for breaking the theme a little and trying not to release a pack full of the same presets.

Raz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd June 2003, 23:54   #162
sidd
Major Dude
 
sidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,353
sidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 06:18   #163
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
i liked the colours in Raz's preset


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 06:32   #164
Tuggummi
Bin King
 
Tuggummi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,173
Raz, there is no need to be grudgy My words don't count.

But you can read, can't you? Or did you happen to miss the word "flow" in the "Flow contest" part?

Maybe another contest after we get the pack together and the "real" reviews about the presets, with no limits, let's just see who's the best or something If that's what you want?

Texer Resources

Im retarded... err i mean retired!
Probably both...
Tuggummi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 06:47   #165
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
I'm sure raz'S Preset would have won the first prize if there were a "plasma contest"


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 08:44   #166
sidd
Major Dude
 
sidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,353
well, if it were a plasma contest, i think i might have done a plasma preset aswell.
sidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 09:40   #167
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
Everbody would have done a plasma preset


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 15:00   #168
Raz
Forum King
 
Raz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Manchester
Posts: 6,470
Does it, or does it not "flow"? Why yes it does, just not in the conventional way.

Raz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 15:56   #169
sidd
Major Dude
 
sidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,353
http://www.dictionary.com :

flow...
"To move or run smoothly with unbroken continuity, as in the manner characteristic of a fluid."

dont say nuttin' about scopes that leave 'trails'
sidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 16:15   #170
shreyas_potnis
Major Dude
 
shreyas_potnis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mumbai, India
Posts: 787
any fluid flows!

http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis
shreyas_potnis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 17:22   #171
Raz
Forum King
 
Raz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Manchester
Posts: 6,470
And guess what, mine flows, so screw you.

Raz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 18:20   #172
UnConeD
Whacked Moderator
 
UnConeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,104
Flow is VERY subjective. I don't mind mine not being accepted, I made a slightly better version of it already anyway (but it doesn't satisfy the technical limitations).
For me, flow means something that moves smoothly, not just a scope+DM combo.

UnConeD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 18:44   #173
dirkdeftly
Forum King
 
dirkdeftly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Cydonia, Mars
Posts: 2,651
Send a message via AIM to dirkdeftly
raz...unconed...warp != flow. try this: drop some food coloring in spinning water. what it will do is run around and dilute itself. what it will not do is stick together and move around and change shape a little bit.

"guilt is the cause of more disauders
than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings
dirkdeftly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 22:25   #174
Raz
Forum King
 
Raz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Manchester
Posts: 6,470
Except one minor thing. It's not fucking diluting, it's flowing. Flowing is smooth movement, mine moves smoothly. Great job you shrubs, you all made the same preset. The only reason i didn't submit a flow preset like the rest of you is because it's so fucking boring watching the same old preset go by. When you do a contest you shouldn't be so anal about the title because you'll end up with the same preset over and over. You want that then fine, don't accept it. Fuck it and you.

Raz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2003, 23:54   #175
UnConeD
Whacked Moderator
 
UnConeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,104
Look in that case the contest rules should've stated "You MUST use one DM that is fed back the image it has produced from a previous frame".

I guess this was a good lesson if anyone wants to do another contest...

UnConeD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2003, 02:15   #176
sidd
Major Dude
 
sidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,353
c'mon, i think all of the flowy presets are different enough in their own rights.. mosdt of them are reasonably new looking.

This competition HAS tought us alot: no matter how tight our little group may seem, we are bound to bicker and bicker endlessly over shit-all! Next time, we get someone else, not from here (maybe rovastar or someone) to create the rules, and get judges from somewhere else.

Im all for doing another contest, though i think some restrictions are neccessary: its impossible to judge what is "the best all round preset". think about it, what if tuggummi produces some ground breaking amazing looking thing like he always does, and UnConeD makes a ground breaking new code idea like a pig dancing infront of a mirror on a voxel landscape under a fractle sky in 4-D. Then what will we do....Well, id like to see that pig, but i dont know which ide vote for.

I'm happy with the way the comp has turned out... we have some nice presets in there. Including the ones that may or may not be defined as 'flowy'. I dont think that presets should be excluded because they dont flow enough, just they wont win. Flow should be a criteria in judging, along with speed, aesthetica and the rest.
sidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2003, 03:03   #177
S-uper_T-oast
Forum King
 
S-uper_T-oast's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Fnord?!
Posts: 2,657
I would really like to see just the dancing pig in 4-D, that would be really cool. Another thing I noticed is that most of the disagreements about this whole contest have been based on "poor-wording" of rules and/or mis-interrpretation of the same a few words.
S-uper_T-oast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2003, 05:53   #178
Tuggummi
Bin King
 
Tuggummi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,173
So it should've been a diluting contest then, although most people (like myself) don't even know what the fuck it means

I kinda agree with siddharta here if anyone wants to make another contest, there must be somekind of limits or rules... otherwise it just gets messy when it comes putting them in the winning order... unless we have a poll an like atleast 100 voters then it would be pretty fair... But we don't HAVE 100 VOTERS, do we?

If rules: They all look the same...
If not rules: Not enough voters...

First one to figure this one out gets a peanut...

Texer Resources

Im retarded... err i mean retired!
Probably both...
Tuggummi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2003, 06:07   #179
sidd
Major Dude
 
sidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,353
something like: contest=(rules+norules)*0.5

i have my own peanuts. so dont bother
sidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2003, 06:13   #180
Tuggummi
Bin King
 
Tuggummi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,173
What if i give you Atero's Peanuts? It's not like he needs anymore balls to bitch around the forums... maybe that will tone him down

j/k

Texer Resources

Im retarded... err i mean retired!
Probably both...
Tuggummi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2003, 08:53   #181
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
I dont know what's gonna happen to this contest now


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th June 2003, 16:31   #182
Raz
Forum King
 
Raz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Manchester
Posts: 6,470
Bleh, what was i on? Forget that i don't give two shits what you do with it. I say we have another contest where all you're given is a title, judgeing criteria can be, creativity with the title, FPS, and yadda yadda the rest of the regular criteria, no limit to what components you can use, but FPS will be a judging criteria. Then we won't have all these problems.

Raz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th June 2003, 00:44   #183
sidd
Major Dude
 
sidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,353
very nice idea
BUT WHERE ARE THE JUDGES FOR THIS ONE???
we want result!
sidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th June 2003, 05:25   #184
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
where is phaze??


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th June 2003, 09:24   #185
shreyas_potnis
Major Dude
 
shreyas_potnis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mumbai, India
Posts: 787
I would say UnConeD's preset is quite viscous
Yeah and Phaze has vanished somewhere, I have a compilation of all the flow presets, should we submit it in the GD?

http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis
shreyas_potnis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th June 2003, 04:28   #186
Zevensoft
Major Dude
 
Zevensoft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Ballarat, Australia
Posts: 529
Here is my 4cAUD on the matter.

Speed - One which looks OK, but runs really good.
1st. uNDefineD - Hypnotism: Not really a flow as such, but it's the fastest.
2nd. shock value - chrome current: Good colours, and runs good.
3rd. nixa - another flow preset: Runs well, but the colours are a bit harsh.
Worthy mentions: Hungryskull - Jiggly Stuff (Fast FPS, flow is a bit dodgy), UnConeD - Daedalus (Very nice, but it's not really a flow as such a morphing ssc.), Ishan_rocky - Curves and colours (Bit too blurry).

Looks - One which runs OK, but looks really good.
1st. Atero - Trefoil: Bit slow, but very good visual.
2nd. shock value - chrome current: Runs good, with good colours.
3rd. siddharta - the gloaming: Very scary look, but colours a bit boring.
Worthy mentions: Magic - Organic Tunnel (A trippy look, but not flowy enough), UnConeD - Daedalus (Very nice, but it's not really a flow as such a morphing ssc.)

Innovation - One which features an interesting new effect.
1st. Atero - Fingerpaint: The smudgy paint is good.
2nd. Raz: Plasma hehe.
3rd. UnConeD - Daedalus: I'm sure it's a fancy scope.

Response - One which reacts to music the best.
1st. Nixa - another flow preset.
2nd. siddharta - the gloaming.
3rd. shock value - chrome current.
Worthy mentions: All had average beat response. (shreyas hungryskull raz ishan_rocky)

Overall - One which excells in most areas.
1st. shock value - chrome current.
2nd. siddharta - the gloaming.
3rd. Nixa - another flow preset.
4th. UnConeD - Daedalus
5th. Magic - Organic Tunnel

[Presets were not rated based on technical or size qualities]

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3W | 4WW
Zevensoft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th June 2003, 09:18   #187
Phaze1987
Major Dude
 
Phaze1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lula The Sexy Empire
Posts: 916
Send a message via ICQ to Phaze1987 Send a message via AIM to Phaze1987 Send a message via Yahoo to Phaze1987
Phaze was offline for 1 week cause of ISP.So...Ok i`ll gather all the presets and post my own review.Is there a need for NSIS or just a zip ?
Phaze1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th June 2003, 09:28   #188
shreyas_potnis
Major Dude
 
shreyas_potnis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mumbai, India
Posts: 787
I do not find my preset anywhere in zaven's review,
Must work more hard now.

http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis
shreyas_potnis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th June 2003, 10:18   #189
blazer1504
Senior Member
 
blazer1504's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: .fi
Posts: 155
IMO the judges should rate every preset (with rate 1-10 perhaps) and the one what gets the most points wins..

I'm not sure if I want to get to the jury because I have only couple contest entries now, and I'm not sure if I have time & nerves to dl each & every contest entry with this connection I have..

But I'll let you know that in day or two
blazer1504 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th June 2003, 15:12   #190
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
Uh...blaze if you look back at the fourth page of this thread you will find that shreyas has already compiled all the presets in one pack so no need to download ever preset seperately.


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th June 2003, 15:38   #191
blazer1504
Senior Member
 
blazer1504's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: .fi
Posts: 155
Quote:
Uh...blaze if you look back at the fourth page of this thread you will find that shreyas has already compiled all the presets in one pack so no need to download ever preset seperately.
...and NOW you tell me

Anyway, how 'bout making the rating-system from 1-16 (was there more than 16 entries? ),so that you can use each number ONLY once (putting presets in to order from worst to best in another words) when this is done, I PM my numbers to doggydog & zevensoft, doggydog PMs his to me & Zeven and so on.. When some of the judges haves the numbers he publishes the results here and other judges agrees / disagrees..

does that sound fair ??
blazer1504 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th June 2003, 16:46   #192
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
sounds fair to me.


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th June 2003, 19:54   #193
Phaze1987
Major Dude
 
Phaze1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lula The Sexy Empire
Posts: 916
Send a message via ICQ to Phaze1987 Send a message via AIM to Phaze1987 Send a message via Yahoo to Phaze1987
sounds nice but its a bit complicated...IMHO reviews like zevensoft`s are the best way to declare the winners.The author/preset that appears as #1 in most reviews is declared #1 in the final winner list,so on with #2 and #3...Its simple and fair
Phaze1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2003, 02:22   #194
S-uper_T-oast
Forum King
 
S-uper_T-oast's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Fnord?!
Posts: 2,657
I like the sounds of blazer's idea, but what would you do if somehow two presets tied using any method?
S-uper_T-oast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2003, 03:35   #195
shreyas_potnis
Major Dude
 
shreyas_potnis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mumbai, India
Posts: 787
There was going to be a poll or something wasnt it?

http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis
shreyas_potnis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2003, 05:13   #196
dirkdeftly
Forum King
 
dirkdeftly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Cydonia, Mars
Posts: 2,651
Send a message via AIM to dirkdeftly
no, there wasn't. this has been said at least three times before, shreyas.

way to pay attention

"guilt is the cause of more disauders
than history's most obscene marorders" --E. E. Cummings
dirkdeftly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2003, 06:59   #197
[Ishan]
Major Dude
 
[Ishan]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: India
Posts: 1,156
Send a message via Yahoo to [Ishan]
you forget to soon shreyas Like raz said before-"Everyone will vote for their own presets".There should not be any poll.
Anyway i've had too much of this , i mean does'nt it sound crazy?? the contestants themselves are discussing how the result should be decided?
No offense , but this should have been decided before.


Amateur AVS'er. All over again.

Last AVS Pack :
Resurgence

[Ishan] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2003, 10:17   #198
blazer1504
Senior Member
 
blazer1504's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: .fi
Posts: 155
Here's my rates and my two cents of presets, do you what you do with this...


Name: points: misc:
---------------------------
Hungryskull 1 uhm...

Super Toast 2 ugly & empty

Ishan 3 not too flowy, quite static

Raz 4 um...flow ??

Runar 5 too static & gets boring after awhile

Nixa 6 Ugly colors

Undenifed 7 this have been made like million times

Tuggummi 8 Good base but it's missing good colors and something..

Shreyas 9 Good response & I really like the dot design, some not so good movements in multimov dynamove

Siddharta 10 Good dynamove, colors needs fixing

Magic 11 Neat but needs more beatresponse..

Stardust 12 Good colors, good fps

UnConeD 13 I'm loving the scope here. Really nice colors as well , but not exactly a "flow" preset if you ask me..

Atero 14 Nice flow, sweet colors, dynmove is also quite nice

Mquadrat 15 Really responsive, good flow

Shock Value 16 Even though, I don't have the 'addborders' ape this looks really good. Good fps rate & looks absolutly awesome in hi-res fullscreen mode
blazer1504 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2003, 11:34   #199
shreyas_potnis
Major Dude
 
shreyas_potnis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mumbai, India
Posts: 787
This review is inverse I think. And I meant for the vote in the GD forums.

http://home.iitb.ac*****~shreyaspotnis
shreyas_potnis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th June 2003, 11:57   #200
Tuggummi
Bin King
 
Tuggummi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,173
I don't support the idea of voting in the General Discussion forums. Thank you for your time, have a nice day.

Texer Resources

Im retarded... err i mean retired!
Probably both...
Tuggummi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Winamp & Shoutcast Forums > Visualizations > AVS

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump