Old 29th June 2003, 14:37   #81
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No replicating styles is my opinion. Why would you want a whole bunch of presets that all look like past presets, come on the idea was to be creative not copy someones own style. Besides if you like paranoyas presets then watch paranoya presets, you don't need new ones.

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Old 29th June 2003, 15:27   #82
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Raz: Let's not have a knockout tournament (like I think you're saying) because people can get knocked out in the first round against someone who was just really lucky to get a subject he was good at. Example:

First round is someonenotgoodatmath vs. UnConeD and the subject subject is krazy cool ray traced crap. Someonenotgoodatmath might be able to beat UnConeD while making any other type of preset, but he just happens to get this one and get knocked out unfairly.

I say the best contest would be: judges say "make a preset with just a superscope, a preset with no custom-programmable parts, a remix of BLANK, a copy of El-Vis's style, a preset that is clearly inspired by the title "giant orange hippo wearing a tutu", a good use of XOR, and a flow preset. No re-using old material. start NOW, submit your pack within fifteen days." and then after fifteen days the judges look through all the packs and gives each preset a score out of 10 points. The sum of each of the judges scores for a pack = the pack's total score. The judges can't talk to eachother or anyone else about the quality of the presets until they have all submitted their scores to the head judge (who doesn't vote and is a trustworthy person). The head judge releases the total scores after he recieves all the other judge's scores.

I think that this would be the fastest and fairest way to do a competition...
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it's really too confusing for me


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Old 29th June 2003, 17:17   #84
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Nice idea for a comp but i still like my isea, so what if people get knocked out straight away, they should've been better in that area, and anyway, it shouldn't be raytracing because only a few can do that, it should be a title, you know something anything can be done with.

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Old 29th June 2003, 17:38   #85
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A knockout tournament would have to be combined with a league, at least if this tournament's contestant amount is something to go after.
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Old 29th June 2003, 17:55   #86
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Again raz, what if someone who isn't that good just happens to come up with a really good preset based on "satan's fearsome sci fi space furby" one round and knocks out someone who otherwise would've won the tournament but just couldn't come up with a good interpretation. Just two presets (one from each opponent) isn't enough material to decide who's the best overall imho. I could be wrong.

Why don't we just do both types of tournament, one after the other or at the same time...

edit: runar, it won't be about something to go after.
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Old 29th June 2003, 18:10   #87
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yeah that was my point, do another tournament like i said. Ad if you can't come up with a good interpretation, tough, you should've done. It doesn't matter what they could've done, it's what they do. Rival tournaments aren't meant to be user friendly, they're supposed to be complex and intimidating, and if you fail, you lose, you're off the team, tough. Just because some good people might get knocked out doesn't mean it's not a good idea, if they're such good avsers they wont get knocked out. You see my point?

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Old 29th June 2003, 18:22   #88
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Just because some good people might get knocked out doesn't mean it's not a good idea, if they're such good avsers they wont get knocked out. You see my point?
Ok, wait a minute....

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some good people might get knocked out
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if they're such good avsers they wont get knocked out.
No, I don't get your point.

But I understand that if the idea of the tournament is more to create fun competition than to decide who's necessarily the best contestant, then a knockout tournament might be the best. So that's why I say do both types of tournament since both have their good points, and you seem to agree, so let's stop arguing.
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Old 29th June 2003, 19:59   #89
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Nah my idea was so that we can have a _proper_ tournament

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This is like trying to talk to a giant orange hippo while wearing a tutu and not feeling just a little bit silly.

Do whatever, I give up.
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Old 29th June 2003, 20:21   #91
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Stop with the orange hippo now, it's getting old.

We can have many tournaments, how about we concentrate on this one before our ambitions outgrow us eh.

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The new contest hasn't been posted, so nothing's going on with this tournament. Let's all time ourselves and see who can eat a happy meal the fastest. That way everybody gets a prize.

This is such a pointless post.
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This is such a pointless post
You're right it is


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Old 30th June 2003, 06:47   #94
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Somebody post the next challenge before this thread gets too far off subject. I should be shot for all the stupid crap I've posted already. Don't make a witty comment about that.
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Old 30th June 2003, 08:18   #95
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this is a witty comment to 13373571 .

Though I do agree with you, this is getting way to far off-topic, let the judges come up with the new topic fast before everyone is annoyed and not in the mood to go on anyway.

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Old 30th June 2003, 08:43   #96
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Allright the topic for the next week is:
DEVIL'S NIGHTMARE

The contestants to participate are:
M^2k,Raz,Shreyas,Nic01,Deamon,Siddhartha_one,Zevensoft,Magic,Nixa,Skupers

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Old 30th June 2003, 13:51   #97
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devil's nightmare?
i don't understand.

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Old 30th June 2003, 14:12   #98
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there aint much to understand about it.
you just do a preset that suits that title, or that style..
up to you..
you could interpret it as a really hellish preset, or a really saintly preset (the devils nightmnare could be something that the devl fears).
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Old 2nd July 2003, 12:45   #99
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so where to submit it?

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Old 2nd July 2003, 19:16   #100
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here, I guess. I'm working on it, shouldn't take too long any more.

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Old 2nd July 2003, 21:15   #101
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Ok here it is: another peaceful night in heaven. If this isn't the greatest nightmare of the devil, I don't know it anymore. Watch the dark blue sky, the little cute clouds, the sexy falling stars, and of course: the cross, in all it's power.

I hope you guys like it

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Old 2nd July 2003, 21:18   #102
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Old 2nd July 2003, 21:21   #103
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down? bad word selection amigo

EDIT:
and don't fuck me on FPS, I realise it's slow on the slower machines under us, but hey, it's night, remember?

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Old 2nd July 2003, 21:24   #104
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didn't mean to diss the preset - I actually haven't looked at it yet. I am going to wait until I get all of them before I look at them - keep it a little more fair.
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Old 2nd July 2003, 21:29   #105
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True. I hope you'll get them all in time, activity is quite low after releasing the new title. Though maybe that means everyone is working really hard on their presets.

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I'm working hard on my preset, which will most likely be called "dance of the seraphim". The scopes, which already look amazing in my opinion, take up a lot of time to tweak for the best response. The problem with my preset is that a part of it only works in 320x200. That shouldn't be a problem if I say it in the comment, right?
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Old 3rd July 2003, 08:18   #107
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Not with me, I've quite some presets which only work in square window sizes. Just put it clearly in the comment and you should be fine (I guess, it's of course still up to the judges)

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no prob with me.


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Old 3rd July 2003, 16:27   #109
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Heh, want something really scary huh? Lets see....


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Dance of the Seraphim

Quote:
www.pantheon.org/articles/s/seraphim.html

Seraphim

Divine creatures from the Old Testament, associated with the Cherubim, and later taken to be angels. The root of Seraphim comes either from the Hebrew verb saraph ('to burn') or the Hebrew noun saraph (a fiery, flying serpent). Because the term appears several times with reference to the serpents encountered in the wilderness (Num. 21.8, Deut. 8.15; Isa. 14.29; 30.6), it has often been understood to refer to "fiery serpents." From this it has also often been proposed that the seraphim were serpentine in form and in some sense "fiery" creatures or associated with fire.

It is said that whoever lays eyes on a Seraph, he would instantly be incinerated due to the immense brightness of the Seraph. They are described as very tall, with six wings and four heads, one for of the cardinal directions. One pair of wings are for flying, one for covering their eyes (for even they may not look directly at God), and one for covering their feet (which is almost certainly a euphemism for genitalia). They are in the direct presence of God.

In Isaiah's call-vision in the Temple, he sees Seraphim surrounding the throne of God, singing praise to God; the "Thrice Holy" hymn (ch 6). In this instance they are angelic beings but in the Book of Numbers, seraph-snakes are sent to punish the Israelites.

Some of the Seraphim are Metatron, Kemuel, Nathanael, Gabriel, and Lucifer.
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Nice , though I don't see what it has to do with the topic, except the nice story you added. The preset looks great on the other hand. I'm not sure what it's supposed to look like (I run it with about 6 FPS) :s. Now let's see what the judges think, will they fall for beauty, or will they think it hasn't got to do enough with the topic?

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Not enough with the topic? That research cost some time and I was trying to make something that looked like Seraphim. I originally had snake-like thingies, but they were too slow.
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I was just about to edit my reply when I read this, having read the text more carefully and only then realising the depth of it. Should indeed have taken you quite some time to find that all out. Sorry skupers, I didn't mean to be so harsh (or wathever the word is, in Dutch, which you understand: lomp). Also the preset looks great, it also contains a shitload of quite some nice skills. It just didn't look like an angel to me, but then again, nobody knows how they look. I guess I expected something with wings and a golden ring on it's head or so. So, I take all my words back, and my excuses to skupers. It's a great preset with the best background I've yet seen. Congrats, I hope you accept my apoligies.

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No problem, I forgive you. I have to admit that without the explanation, you don't really see the connection to the topic.
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So i went for the classic, satanic look, so sue me
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Oh yeah by the way, recommended resolution, 350x350

And i didn't edit _just_ to piss off the people who would be retarded enough to care

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why a square window, raz?
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Because there's that damned problematic text in there. What is the concept with the "w" and "h" variables in the DM to make it the same, erm cant explain, like 80% of the window size for everything, for the window? I can't think, brain needs sleep.

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my entry, I hope my topic is correct, as I didnt understand it much.
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I think an earthquake in hell could be a nightmare for the devil... It's not as if the topic had well set boundaries anyways.

edit: it looks more like "journey through the devil's digestive system" to me though still very responsive and devilish, I'm not trying to say it's bad, the walls just remind me of what I saw in biology class with that pulsation and whatnot. Ok i'll stop now.

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