Winamp 5.21 Released - Page 2

DJ Egg · 14th March 2006, 13:08

@hawke
Did you even see/read my "undocumented" post on page 1 ?

cruxial · 15th March 2006, 01:56

ive never had a problem with the updates until now, and i have been using winamp since '98, which ever version that was. anywho, i cant believe it is causing such major issues. Iregardless, i'm gonna try and get 5.13 back somehow....

DJ Egg · 15th March 2006, 03:57

Sorry, but I think you'll find that the vast majority of users don't have any problems, at least none like yours anyway.

hawke · 15th March 2006, 13:11

DJ Egg,I read it,but I don't know what to do.
My problem is some of wav can't play in Winamp 5.21.
Other wav files can play in winamp 5.21.
(Those wav come from two kinds of Mp3 player record not one.)

DJ Egg · 15th March 2006, 13:38

Well, you have the option of either following the instructions to make in_dshow the default WAV handler, or you can use in_wave.dll from 5.13 instead.

cruxial · 15th March 2006, 21:26

well i found 5.13 on the web and just to be fair i found that the music still skips while i play video games. that might be an issue with the recent update my game had. sucky, now i dont even bother to play games without music :-(

anywho, the wav file failure and dsp plug in failure still linger in 5.21 everything works fine in 5.13, i think i will stick with that one.

DJ Egg · 15th March 2006, 21:43

Or, as explained ten times already, you could just use in_wave from 5.13 (no 32-bit float point or multi-user support) or configure in_dshow to handle wav instead (supports all wav formats that old in_wave supported, plus also supports floating-point wav).

As for broken dsp plugins, well, as has always been the case, it's up to the 3rd-party author of said plugin to maintain it so that it's compatible with the latest version of winamp. Have you reported the problem to said 3rd-party pitchfork plugin author yet?

Logy · 17th March 2006, 13:20

may be dev team rolled out the new Winamp SDK 5.2x or someting like that, can solved this confusion or conflict with new architecture winamp...

have a nice coding day to benski and the gang...

adios...

m_theloosen2 · 17th March 2006, 17:27

I did know that the metadata didn't work in one verion earlier. But now in 5.21 it have to work.
I have checked de version 5.21 and I still have NO Artist meta data en album meta data in my MSN name. When I have a streaming radio for my friends its nice to have this data in my msn name. I worked always with Toaster a older version but now I tryed the newest version an still I have no meta data in my msn name. I don't understand why this doesn't work. I worked in older versions of Winamp but now it doesn't anymore. I hope you have a Fix.

A Dutchie.

m_theloosen2 · 18th March 2006, 10:35

Anyone?

DJ Egg · 18th March 2006, 11:48

Wrong thread. As with all 3rd-party plugins, you need to contact the Toaster plugin author (shaneh / shane hird) to report any problems (that's assuming the problem is directly related to said plugin, and that you're using the very latest version of Toaster).

Akshaye · 19th March 2006, 16:16

I just wanted to say that I really like the AAC+ functionality in Winamp and Shoutcast. Sounds great (I've only tested streaming at 64Kbit/s) and seems to work stable (Winamp 5.2 with Shoutcast DSP plugin and NULL output).
What more can you want

.

DarkGhost89 · 20th March 2006, 04:54

Hi, I have read the faq and look at the list you said you will or have done addressing the problems people have complaint over the new winamp media. While there seems to be alot of issues currently still, the issue that I concern with is the sorting feature. The biggest gripe I have with it is how it sorts now, while I'm pleased you took the time to give a fix to allow us to sort again, compared to the older version I have issues with:

1. When clicking on genre (for example) it is not going alphabetically, (I noticed it been like that for a long time but now there enough to push it to a noticable spot). Currently when I click gerne I see "Freedom" then "Goons" Then "Visonair" then the "A"s. Also I do not like how you seperated the lowercase and uppercase words. I find it annoying how like "Anime" is need the top and "anime" is halfwalf to the bottom.

2. It is taking 2-3 seconds to order them where on other parts it still instantaneous.

3. When one reload winamp, it doesn't remember the setting of where it was sorted at.

Can you please put more attention into that part of the browser again please? At least make lowercase and uppercase together again.

GoddessOfLight · 20th March 2006, 06:09

Quote:

Originally posted by cruxial
I'm very disappointed with the latest update of winamp. First of all I can't play wav files. It is not listed under associated file types. What happened?!? I had to manually enter it under in_wave.dll but even then it doesn't stay there. Also, my favorite dsp plug-in doesn't work with the new version! Pitch fork loads and then it produces error at 216 or something like that. Then I have to un-install the damn thing and and re-install it, which doesn't go very smoothly. Finally, the songs skip when I'm playing video games. What an awful update! From someone who has been using Winamp since day one, I can't comprehend how a new build with bug fixes can come out so bad. Is there a way I can download an older version?

What version would you like.. I have on CD 2.79, then from 5.094 to date......the 4.x ones I lost..never got the 3.0 versions...the 2.79 is the oldest version I have.

Mr Jones · 20th March 2006, 06:56

Quote:

Originally posted by GoddessOfLight
the 4.x ones I lost..

ZOMG!, you had the 4.x line and lost them, do you know how rare they are?

skykid · 20th March 2006, 22:39

So I just downloaded 5.21 and installed it fully. Ftrom the get go it began having errors and crashing. I suspected it had to do with the skin (MMD3), so I even went to winamp.ini and changed skin= to blank and load with classic original. Even still, when I go to change songs in my playlist, Windows tells me it has crashed and must be shut down. I'm not really sure whether this is just a compatibility issue with my computer, but now I'm forced to use alternate media players. =/

DJ Egg · 20th March 2006, 23:34

Probably due to some old/incompatible 3rd-party plugin. Try a clean install and only select the components you require in the installer options.

DarkGhost89 · 21st March 2006, 02:27

So.... is anything going to be done on what I asked DJ?

osmosis · 29th March 2006, 16:27

for those interested about that 4-way plugin that DrO said he'd be interested in working on before he went on sabatical: the old plugin appears to work correctly again as long as you check the "Delay to differentiate between single and double click" option.

osmosis · 3rd April 2006, 04:03

i take that back, it must have been a temporary fluke..

dotme · 6th April 2006, 22:09

Craig/DJ Egg

There's been a lot of posts on the shoutcast boards about the YP being way behind on Now Playing. I've noticed it's pretty up to date during off-peak hours, but during US weekday daytime, it can fall up to 3 hours behind. It seems this probem began about the same time as the new Winamp was released. Is it possible that the new Winamp method of pulling SHOUTcast stations is creating an unexpected load on the YP system?

On a side-note, a sticky in the Tech Support forums at SHOUTcast might cut down on the number of new threads this issue is creating.

CraigF · 8th April 2006, 21:06

No, I think theres just a lot of work being put into the YP at the moment by those guys. With regards to Now Playing, it was always just an idea of what the station plays than what its currently playing. Remember, the YP doesnt maintain an accurate copy of played track, only the occasional touch.

ZoeBallz · 9th April 2006, 00:11

If it was occasionally correct it wouldnt be so bad. We are talking about a 1-2hr minimum lag in being correct. The listener count is so far behind that by the time a show gets listed with the right nunber of listeners, the show is already over and the show host has been to sleep, got up and had breakfast

And I am NOT exagerating. I HAVE seen it that far behind.

Zoe

DrO · 14th April 2006, 23:40

Quote:

Originally posted by osmosis
for those interested about that 4-way plugin that DrO said he'd be interested in working on before he went on sabatical: the old plugin appears to work correctly again as long as you check the "Delay to differentiate between single and double click" option.

i've got a basic working internal version of the 4-way icon in gen_tray though i still need to finish the image loading/layout since to match the 4-way plugin i need 7 image segments to match all of the options (internally i've just made it load 7 individual images for a quick implementation). this weekend is about the only time i've got to do any coding for the next few weeks so i'll try to get a working test build of gen_tray out but i make no promises at all for meeting that.

-daz

Logy · 19th April 2006, 15:28

any new development this weeks... i thinks the holiday for dev is over now heheeee....

i'm glad to see the Real DrO is back....

the holiday is good treatment for you ! heh...

adios...

DrO · 19th April 2006, 16:23

holiday, what's that?? (i've been working too much

) anyway i'm only part back, i'm still barely coding but have sometime to post around here now.

-daz

Logy · 20th April 2006, 03:06

sorry, i mean vacation, or i misreading this thread, other person go to vacation or need that thing...

ok, good luck for your coding....

have a nice day...

adios!

JamesT5192 · 22nd April 2006, 00:13

What did they do that forces me upgrade to the horrible new version to get the shoutcast radio list?

seriously, the interface for the radio is just bad
it's nearly unusable compared to the old, simple version. with that one, you could view what you wanted without having to scroll through 100 listings of crap

This change apparently happened just today. I hope no one else wants to uninstall this piece of crap and find a new player

DJ Egg · 22nd April 2006, 01:42

There's no other player which lists all 13,000 Shoutcast radio streams and the full shoutcast tv dir, so good luck with that, heh.

The changes took place in Winamp 5.20, which came out a few months ago.

So I guess in a way that you're lucky you didn't get to see the original version of Online Services, heh.

Please read the sticky threads before posting.

JamesT5192 · 22nd April 2006, 18:00

sorry, I was a bit drunk and upset

usually I'm better on forums and do read stickies
I was looking for a place to complain

Darketernal · 22nd April 2006, 18:56

IM stil having a hell of a hard time ,trying to find my Win shoutcast list back as seen in winamp 5.1 , the new list configuration sucks.

Use google Filosophie, simple = earn millions , complex = users escape thru windows mediaplayer or another competitor.

LISTEN to feedback, bring the old list back NOW!

(make the SET TO OLD LIST button EASY to find please) =)

DJ Egg · 22nd April 2006, 19:13

If you'd care to read first, the old list is found by clicking "Top 500" in the Genre Selection bar along the top, and then checkmarking "remember last search" c/o the Config button, which will make the Shoutcast Radio listings always load with the top 500, just like it did in 5.13.

I guess you missed all that though, just like you missed posting in the correct sticky.

We are listening to user feedback. The poll shows that the vast majority of people are happy. Alas, we can't account for halfwits though :/

CraigF · 23rd April 2006, 13:28

And the argument for moving to a competitor is somewhat moot when no competitor offers the number of stations winamp does with its new online services.

Not to mention that built in shoutcast listings is such a small part of winamp.

Winner2 · 25th April 2006, 23:35

Quote:

Not to mention that built in shoutcast listings is such a small part of winamp.

Comment: Shoutcast listings are not a "small part of Winamp" for those of us who listen to Shoutcast mostly all of the time we use Winamp.

DJ Egg · 26th April 2006, 01:29

Yeah, but if you look at the all the combined new features and fixes etc of both Winamp 5.2 and 5.21 (see first post in this thread), Online Services is just one item in a big list. Sure, it's a major feature for people who use Winamp solely for that purpose (which is actually a small percentage of the overall Winamp users - Winamp users worldwide = over 2 million, shoutcast.com current listeners = 140,000), but for other people with plenty of their own music readily available to listen to on their own hard drives (click my sig link for an example) then Online Services is just a small feature... which is why there's separate threads available to discuss said feature (see other stickys for info).

And besides all that, the majority of users are happy. Only the minority are the ones who complain and post. Those that are happy have no need to post anything. I'm just a user like you, and OS works perfectly well for me, I prefer it to the old limited Online Media thing, ie. I'm one of the happy dudes, heh.
(ps. 5.22 will rock).

CraigF · 26th April 2006, 10:17

Where as contrary, I prefer the old listings to the new ones. I think that it would have been better to adapt the old control to solve the load problems, rather than rewrite.

HOWEVER, I also know that its free, and i have to get it how im given it. I'm also sure that there is a grand plan here to bring winamp more inline with other players.

I also know that if i were able to code, I could trivially write a plugin to do it. And since I can't, I have no argument whatsoever.

Logy · 8th May 2006, 05:24

vlc 0.8.5 support Winamp classic skins...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

adios...

glop · 8th May 2006, 12:03

vlc is very powerfull but ugly...
if ever Winamp implement MP4 video and MPEG2 TS (not the MPEG2 for DVD, see the dedicated post) so Winamp will rise again.

Auror · 8th May 2006, 23:15

Cruxial, et al

I too am having problems with version 5.21 and .wav files.

Specifically, v5.21 will access a .wav file via Open or double-click. However, once the title is posted to the player, Winamp hangs.

Yes, I have done an install on top of previous version (5.13). That didn't work. I have also completetely purged Winamp from my system and done a "clean" install. Still doesn't work...The problem with .wav files is the same in both cases.

This problem does not appear to involve any format other than .wav.

For the moment, I have purged Winamp form my system and done a "clean" install of version 5.13. Everything works fine at that version level.

Auror · 8th May 2006, 23:32

DJ Egg,

Regarding the version 5.21 .wav problem, I have just re-read your posting of 10 March 2006 and see that you have addressed this issue with a manual fix. Thank you.

14th March 2006, 13:08	#41
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	@hawke Did you even see/read my "undocumented" post on page 1 ? Playlist -\|- Twitter

15th March 2006, 03:57	#43
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	Sorry, but I think you'll find that the vast majority of users don't have any problems, at least none like yours anyway. Playlist -\|- Twitter

15th March 2006, 13:38	#45
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	Well, you have the option of either following the instructions to make in_dshow the default WAV handler, or you can use in_wave.dll from 5.13 instead. Playlist -\|- Twitter

15th March 2006, 21:43	#47
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	Or, as explained ten times already, you could just use in_wave from 5.13 (no 32-bit float point or multi-user support) or configure in_dshow to handle wav instead (supports all wav formats that old in_wave supported, plus also supports floating-point wav). As for broken dsp plugins, well, as has always been the case, it's up to the 3rd-party author of said plugin to maintain it so that it's compatible with the latest version of winamp. Have you reported the problem to said 3rd-party pitchfork plugin author yet? Playlist -\|- Twitter

17th March 2006, 13:20	#48
Logy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Terengganu, Malaysia, Asia, Earth Posts: 302	may be dev team rolled out the new Winamp SDK 5.2x or someting like that, can solved this confusion or conflict with new architecture winamp... have a nice coding day to benski and the gang... adios... The English suffix -logy denotes a field of study or academic discipline.

15th March 2006, 01:56	#42
cruxial Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	ive never had a problem with the updates until now, and i have been using winamp since '98, which ever version that was. anywho, i cant believe it is causing such major issues. Iregardless, i'm gonna try and get 5.13 back somehow....

15th March 2006, 13:11	#44
hawke Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32	DJ Egg,I read it,but I don't know what to do. My problem is some of wav can't play in Winamp 5.21. Other wav files can play in winamp 5.21. (Those wav come from two kinds of Mp3 player record not one.)

15th March 2006, 21:26	#46
cruxial Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	well i found 5.13 on the web and just to be fair i found that the music still skips while i play video games. that might be an issue with the recent update my game had. sucky, now i dont even bother to play games without music :-( anywho, the wav file failure and dsp plug in failure still linger in 5.21 everything works fine in 5.13, i think i will stick with that one.

17th March 2006, 17:27	#49
m_theloosen2 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2	Meta Data in stream I did know that the metadata didn't work in one verion earlier. But now in 5.21 it have to work. I have checked de version 5.21 and I still have NO Artist meta data en album meta data in my MSN name. When I have a streaming radio for my friends its nice to have this data in my msn name. I worked always with Toaster a older version but now I tryed the newest version an still I have no meta data in my msn name. I don't understand why this doesn't work. I worked in older versions of Winamp but now it doesn't anymore. I hope you have a Fix. A Dutchie.

18th March 2006, 10:35	#50
m_theloosen2 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2	Anyone?

18th March 2006, 11:48	#51
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	Wrong thread. As with all 3rd-party plugins, you need to contact the Toaster plugin author (shaneh / shane hird) to report any problems (that's assuming the problem is directly related to said plugin, and that you're using the very latest version of Toaster). Playlist -\|- Twitter

19th March 2006, 16:16	#52
Akshaye Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 39	Good job! I just wanted to say that I really like the AAC+ functionality in Winamp and Shoutcast. Sounds great (I've only tested streaming at 64Kbit/s) and seems to work stable (Winamp 5.2 with Shoutcast DSP plugin and NULL output). What more can you want .

20th March 2006, 04:54	#53
DarkGhost89 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2	Hi, I have read the faq and look at the list you said you will or have done addressing the problems people have complaint over the new winamp media. While there seems to be alot of issues currently still, the issue that I concern with is the sorting feature. The biggest gripe I have with it is how it sorts now, while I'm pleased you took the time to give a fix to allow us to sort again, compared to the older version I have issues with: 1. When clicking on genre (for example) it is not going alphabetically, (I noticed it been like that for a long time but now there enough to push it to a noticable spot). Currently when I click gerne I see "Freedom" then "Goons" Then "Visonair" then the "A"s. Also I do not like how you seperated the lowercase and uppercase words. I find it annoying how like "Anime" is need the top and "anime" is halfwalf to the bottom. 2. It is taking 2-3 seconds to order them where on other parts it still instantaneous. 3. When one reload winamp, it doesn't remember the setting of where it was sorted at. Can you please put more attention into that part of the browser again please? At least make lowercase and uppercase together again.

20th March 2006, 22:39	#56
skykid Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1	So I just downloaded 5.21 and installed it fully. Ftrom the get go it began having errors and crashing. I suspected it had to do with the skin (MMD3), so I even went to winamp.ini and changed skin= to blank and load with classic original. Even still, when I go to change songs in my playlist, Windows tells me it has crashed and must be shut down. I'm not really sure whether this is just a compatibility issue with my computer, but now I'm forced to use alternate media players. =/

20th March 2006, 23:34	#57
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	Probably due to some old/incompatible 3rd-party plugin. Try a clean install and only select the components you require in the installer options. Playlist -\|- Twitter

21st March 2006, 02:27	#58
DarkGhost89 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2	So.... is anything going to be done on what I asked DJ?

29th March 2006, 16:27	#59
osmosis Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cananada Posts: 841	for those interested about that 4-way plugin that DrO said he'd be interested in working on before he went on sabatical: the old plugin appears to work correctly again as long as you check the "Delay to differentiate between single and double click" option. Request: A little SmartView Query Language love.

3rd April 2006, 04:03	#60
osmosis Major Dude Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cananada Posts: 841	i take that back, it must have been a temporary fluke.. Request: A little SmartView Query Language love.

6th April 2006, 22:09	#61
dotme Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 4,024	Craig/DJ Egg There's been a lot of posts on the shoutcast boards about the YP being way behind on Now Playing. I've noticed it's pretty up to date during off-peak hours, but during US weekday daytime, it can fall up to 3 hours behind. It seems this probem began about the same time as the new Winamp was released. Is it possible that the new Winamp method of pulling SHOUTcast stations is creating an unexpected load on the YP system? On a side-note, a sticky in the Tech Support forums at SHOUTcast might cut down on the number of new threads this issue is creating. Atlantic Sound Factory Licensed by StreamLicensing \| Powered by Fast Serv \| Radionomy Broadcaster

8th April 2006, 21:06	#62
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	No, I think theres just a lot of work being put into the YP at the moment by those guys. With regards to Now Playing, it was always just an idea of what the station plays than what its currently playing. Remember, the YP doesnt maintain an accurate copy of played track, only the occasional touch.

9th April 2006, 00:11	#63
ZoeBallz T-Girl Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gillingham, Kent UK Posts: 109	If it was occasionally correct it wouldnt be so bad. We are talking about a 1-2hr minimum lag in being correct. The listener count is so far behind that by the time a show gets listed with the right nunber of listeners, the show is already over and the show host has been to sleep, got up and had breakfast And I am NOT exagerating. I HAVE seen it that far behind. Zoe Main website....www.zoeballz.tv Facebook....www.facebook.com/zoeballz Calling Scammers LIVE ON AIR....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTEcldDQ5LE

19th April 2006, 15:28	#65
Logy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Terengganu, Malaysia, Asia, Earth Posts: 302	any new development this weeks... i thinks the holiday for dev is over now heheeee.... i'm glad to see the Real DrO is back.... the holiday is good treatment for you ! heh... adios... The English suffix -logy denotes a field of study or academic discipline.

19th April 2006, 16:23	#66
DrO Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 27,873	holiday, what's that?? (i've been working too much ) anyway i'm only part back, i'm still barely coding but have sometime to post around here now. -daz WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

20th April 2006, 03:06	#67
Logy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Terengganu, Malaysia, Asia, Earth Posts: 302	sorry, i mean vacation, or i misreading this thread, other person go to vacation or need that thing... ok, good luck for your coding.... have a nice day... adios! The English suffix -logy denotes a field of study or academic discipline.

22nd April 2006, 00:13	#68
JamesT5192 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2	winamp user for 5 years What did they do that forces me upgrade to the horrible new version to get the shoutcast radio list? seriously, the interface for the radio is just bad it's nearly unusable compared to the old, simple version. with that one, you could view what you wanted without having to scroll through 100 listings of crap This change apparently happened just today. I hope no one else wants to uninstall this piece of crap and find a new player Last edited by JamesT5192; 22nd April 2006 at 00:34.

22nd April 2006, 01:42	#69
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	There's no other player which lists all 13,000 Shoutcast radio streams and the full shoutcast tv dir, so good luck with that, heh. The changes took place in Winamp 5.20, which came out a few months ago. So I guess in a way that you're lucky you didn't get to see the original version of Online Services, heh. Please read the sticky threads before posting. Playlist -\|- Twitter

22nd April 2006, 18:00	#70
JamesT5192 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2	sorry, I was a bit drunk and upset usually I'm better on forums and do read stickies I was looking for a place to complain

22nd April 2006, 18:56	#71
Darketernal Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7	IM stil having a hell of a hard time ,trying to find my Win shoutcast list back as seen in winamp 5.1 , the new list configuration sucks. Use google Filosophie, simple = earn millions , complex = users escape thru windows mediaplayer or another competitor. LISTEN to feedback, bring the old list back NOW! (make the SET TO OLD LIST button EASY to find please) =)

22nd April 2006, 19:13	#72
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	If you'd care to read first, the old list is found by clicking "Top 500" in the Genre Selection bar along the top, and then checkmarking "remember last search" c/o the Config button, which will make the Shoutcast Radio listings always load with the top 500, just like it did in 5.13. I guess you missed all that though, just like you missed posting in the correct sticky. We are listening to user feedback. The poll shows that the vast majority of people are happy. Alas, we can't account for halfwits though :/ Playlist -\|- Twitter

23rd April 2006, 13:28	#73
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	And the argument for moving to a competitor is somewhat moot when no competitor offers the number of stations winamp does with its new online services. Not to mention that built in shoutcast listings is such a small part of winamp.

26th April 2006, 01:29	#75
DJ Egg Techorator Winamp & Shoutcast Team Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 35,899	Yeah, but if you look at the all the combined new features and fixes etc of both Winamp 5.2 and 5.21 (see first post in this thread), Online Services is just one item in a big list. Sure, it's a major feature for people who use Winamp solely for that purpose (which is actually a small percentage of the overall Winamp users - Winamp users worldwide = over 2 million, shoutcast.com current listeners = 140,000), but for other people with plenty of their own music readily available to listen to on their own hard drives (click my sig link for an example) then Online Services is just a small feature... which is why there's separate threads available to discuss said feature (see other stickys for info). And besides all that, the majority of users are happy. Only the minority are the ones who complain and post. Those that are happy have no need to post anything. I'm just a user like you, and OS works perfectly well for me, I prefer it to the old limited Online Media thing, ie. I'm one of the happy dudes, heh. (ps. 5.22 will rock). Playlist -\|- Twitter

26th April 2006, 10:17	#76
CraigF Passionately Apathetic Administrator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hell Posts: 5,435	Where as contrary, I prefer the old listings to the new ones. I think that it would have been better to adapt the old control to solve the load problems, rather than rewrite. HOWEVER, I also know that its free, and i have to get it how im given it. I'm also sure that there is a grand plan here to bring winamp more inline with other players. I also know that if i were able to code, I could trivially write a plugin to do it. And since I can't, I have no argument whatsoever.

8th May 2006, 05:24	#77
Logy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Terengganu, Malaysia, Asia, Earth Posts: 302	vlc 0.8.5 support Winamp classic skins... http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ adios... The English suffix -logy denotes a field of study or academic discipline.

8th May 2006, 12:03	#78
glop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Paris Posts: 455	vlc is very powerfull but ugly... if ever Winamp implement MP4 video and MPEG2 TS (not the MPEG2 for DVD, see the dedicated post) so Winamp will rise again.

8th May 2006, 23:15	#79
Auror Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2	Winamp 5.21 .wav problem Cruxial, et al I too am having problems with version 5.21 and .wav files. Specifically, v5.21 will access a .wav file via Open or double-click. However, once the title is posted to the player, Winamp hangs. Yes, I have done an install on top of previous version (5.13). That didn't work. I have also completetely purged Winamp from my system and done a "clean" install. Still doesn't work...The problem with .wav files is the same in both cases. This problem does not appear to involve any format other than .wav. For the moment, I have purged Winamp form my system and done a "clean" install of version 5.13. Everything works fine at that version level.