Old 25th October 2010, 20:54   #1
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hi all, especially winamp developers

I know winamp for around 10 years
(snce versions like winamp 2 etc)
so I know this program very well.

what I REALLY like - here is WAVE output!
it is always louder than directsound...
I always wanted some wave (loud) output for videos on webpages
(online video tv etc) - can you make it?

so it is loud. because for online video it is always a problem - to play in good volume.
of course I don't have very big loudspeakers on my personal PC.

so it is common for majority of users -
they use small speakers, in laptop, in headphones.
but well, yes sometimes speakers are big or in ears -
so then one shouldn't use loud winamp wave output. default is ok (directsound) in this
case.
I was wondering that even iTunes do not use Wave output and it is too silent for everyday use...

so this is request number one -
1 ADD WAVEOUT OUTPUT FOR VIDEO, ALSO ONLINE VIDEO/TV/SHOUTCAST TV STREAMING, AND IN BROWSERS LIKE THAT OF FLASH AS WELL...
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Old 25th October 2010, 20:57   #2
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another thing I think about -
browsers support - I mean those toolbars like in IE.
add Opera and Safari support.
at least these two, opera I like more (faster indeed! and more reliable)

so make those shoutcast and winamp toolbar combined.
and I do not like those ads like search etc.
that is irritating so I choose not to install it after all
(I still prefer iTunes radio for this reason
or just play from www.shoutcast.com in Safari)

So,
proposal number two:
2) MAKE WINAMP+SHOUTCAST TOOLBAR FOR OPERA(SAFARI, FLOCK, CHROME, LUNASCAPE ETC) BROWSERS.

YOU CAN MAKE IT AS SMALL BUTTON SO NOT TO WASTE MUCH TIME

MAYBE EVEN ADD FORUM ICON
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:07   #3
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another thing...
yes, I like that winamp can play archieves.
play zips or rars continuously - very good.

but I was unable to play from online
maybe it is because to play such file requires password/antispam input like captcha verification.
anyway, if you make playing of zips and other archieves from online directly - that would be very nice!

because it is thus that users have to delete files after downloading
(copyrights need this behaviour)
so solution is to play zips etc from online

and here is another thing.
but i don't know what can you do about it.
there is nice technology - bittorrent
and also online video acceleration -
see http://www.speedbit.com/
Video Accelerator

I was thinking... can winamp make variable bitrate technology -
for those shoutcast radios just like it is made in this video online accelerator?
and here bittorrent can be used.
so in this way variable bitrate can assure continuous play
(same as buffering for video).

yes, if you can apply this video acceleration for winamp tv streaming...
(you have beta still right) -
but it might be great.
for tv for news for disco or any dj - very good technology.
but it must be perfected.

so torrents can help assure downloading from many sources
(well, suppose one wants to play from many radio stations,
so bittorent downloads same track but from another radio/tv station etc etc...
think of it, many ideas are here)

so, number three:
3) MAKE NICE ONLINE AUDIO/VIDEO STREAMING, THIS REQUIRES SHOUTCAST+WINAMP + OTHER DEVELOPERS COOPERATAION, BUT MAY PROVIDE GOOD RESULT. IF THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO WINAMP (SHOUTCAST) THAT CAN BE GOOD, BUT LEAVE IT OPEN FOR OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE ITUNES SO TV STATIONS ONLINE MAY APPEAR THERE ETC.
OF COURSE I HOPE IT IS FREE, OR AT LEAST MAKE FREE FOR ADS BEFORE PLAYING. (BUT BETTER QUALITY, ACCESSIBILY OF NEW PRODUCTS AND EVEN VIP - BUT FOR ADS). ALL WOULD BENEFIT - ENDUSERS AND BROADCAST COMPANIES ETC ETC
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:19   #4
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CONCERNING INTERFACE.

since some version around winamp 3 it became modern etc -
and also somewhat buggy,
so I stopped using it for some time.
I liked visualizations, plugins, multi fileformats(streaming,m audio, video, converters etc), skins etc.
but all that proved to be very unstable.
development for winamp also proved to be a tough thing.
though I was programming in basic/pascal since dos versions (6.22), windows 3.1
etc, and tried to learn C, and even assembler, winamp seems to be very closed for new developer.

so thus I see that even installation of winamp is buggy now.
I always have to turn off internet connection to install it - as installation from internet makes winamp HANG.

the only reason I use it now - it is still a good one for fast playlists.
that it. and also system tray and small size mode and always on top -
yes, good, but not since version 3 etc.

i like old good winamp of old dark green style.
why not make just same nostalgy classical style?
but with enhanced colors only?
just only add web-browser, add online shoutcast streaming like radio and tv,
add that playlists managers (lyrics, tags, folders etc)...

but why remake it so much? it juSt spoiled everything?

make it tiny.


if you like everything to fill whole screen - ok,
but it must be managed well.
but now it takes so many clicks to resize everytime.
it is hellish, isn't it? sometimes suicidal.
(well, it is same for many programs nowadays who take so much memory like pigs. so winamp is better than many of them)


so, proposal #4
4) REVERT TO OLD INTERFACE OF WINAMP 2(3) STYLE.
ADD THERE ALL FEATURES BUT LET IT BE LIGHT, FAST, SMALL, TINY.
I DO NOT NEED TO WAIT SO MUCH TIME TO REDRAW GRAPHICS OF YOUR NEW WINAMP 3+
IT IS NONSENSE. BUT I WANT ALL THOSE NEW FUNCTIONALITY IN OLD WINAMP 2 STYLE.
SO ADD NEW FEATURES, BUT LEAVE GOOD SPEED AND USABILTY, PLEASE...!

THANK YOU.
(PLEASE DO IT NICELY!)
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:31   #5
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i just wrote three messages and winamp logged out... why so fast?
do not logout automatically so soon ;-) please!

i liked winamp main window and playlist being separate.
i also liked how equalizer could be tiny and either on left of main window or under it.

this is how I use winamp - it is upper right area

proposal is that winamp be like this,
but few windowses - for shoutcast streaming (radio/tv),
well, can be for lyrics as well one,
and browser - not much need for it if you make shoutcast well
(tv/radio - make combined I think...)

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Old 25th October 2010, 21:32   #6
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I think you have to combine playlist with medialibrary with online streming shoutcast/tv, maybe even combine video as well (just would take more space - alway fullsize, or make resize as well).
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:37   #7
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:45   #8
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you made it big, and putted stuff between playlist and main window? why?
and put equalizer separately. if you want to combine them - do it,
but let user to pin one window to another on any side, do npot restrict arrangement of windows.

it was so nice before - put any window on any size. and they nicely stick one to another on any side.

now it is all gone!!! why?
come back! please!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:50   #9
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I feel that you have to put all links for radio stations in winamp playlist - also to media library.
and I think playlist is a thing for radio station...
you may allow user to change playlist of radio station online, can you?
it is common now - ask for some song to play online.
shoutcast broswer is useless - it helps only for search and for categories and refreshng names of new stations etc.
you can simply make playlist split - some part - has local links,
some part of playlist - online links.
so it is nice solution.


and YES i WANTED TO DO ONE THING!!!!!

SIMLUTANEOUS PLAY OF FEW TRACKS!!!

IT IS LIKE DJ-ING... CAN YOU MAKE IT????

SUPPOSE I LISTEN TO AUDIOBOOK WITHOUT SOUND,
AND IN BACK I PUT SOME INSTRUMENTSAL MUSIC...
IT IS SO NICE THEN... ;-)
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:52   #10
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you have playlists option, so why don't you manage them?
when I save file - why don't you save it to library, but save as file and not show in playlists???
nonsense...
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Old 25th October 2010, 21:54   #11
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I use mp3 illyrium manager 2000 - it worked best for id3 tags without harming hardware with v2 tags (in beginning of file).
so media library might look well. but you seem not to care for some manager (auto tagging etc)
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Old 25th October 2010, 22:01   #12
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one thing which you should do...
make treeview for artists, subbranches (option) - for albums/years etc - and subbranches - for tracks, and sort there by numbers etc...

i see future playlist in tree-view style...
with pluses and minuses...

so then slowly you can move from huge interface to playlist merged into media library - playlists, songs, artists etc etc browser....

thnk of it...
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Old 25th October 2010, 22:06   #13
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make scrolling with mouse wheel in playlist enhanced - it is too slow...
but make it changeable depending on length of playlist and what is inside.
simply scroll more or less lines. scroll more - for larger playlist...

yes, and showing time - either do not show at all it - or load it all.
I know it takes time. but why don't you save all that to library in this case? all that information which user rereads every time? all those tags etc - time - save them in media library...

you can even make similar to winamp agent - something like mp3 agent.
if user moves mp3 files or renames them etc - winamp can monitor and ask - how to rename them... where to put them, and thus user can put files anywehre but assist with some background system tray mp3-files*monitor.
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Old 25th October 2010, 22:08   #14
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I wonder why when I click on title-bar of winamp, it shows resize. it is ok for any other place to show resize cursor... but nonsense - for resizing of uppermost side of winamp window...
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Old 25th October 2010, 22:14   #15
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so, come back that volume editor please!!!
and you might add there visualization small... colorful etc... why not???
instead of watching those buttons etc etc???
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Old 25th October 2010, 22:23   #16
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Old 25th October 2010, 22:50   #17
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will you stop posting every few minutes just to add minor things which can be done via the edit post option as you've verging on post pumping from what i can see so please consider this a warning.

as for the 'issues', use a classic skin or there's nothing stopping you from making your own modern skin to get it how you want it.

as for the rest of what has been posted, there's too much text and i'm not in the mood to read any of it (as i suspect most other people will do the same).

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Old 26th October 2010, 02:34   #18
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I've been using Winamp for way too long now and there's still one thing that doesn't gel with me: the damn playing sorting function. It still does not sort files in the exact same order as you see it in Windows or in your music folder! lol.
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Old 26th October 2010, 20:04   #19
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will you stop posting every few minutes just to add minor things
-daz
well yes, these are minor things anyway. you might be right - there are many more important things. any technology - computers, electronics is materialism and atheism (karma) so goodbye winamp forever ;-))

I wanted that winamp add songs to library by default if file is open in winamp (added to playlists, starts playing etc). otherwise function of Library is useless... I suspect winamp stolen ideas from someone;-) it usually happens in business. just like now from Apple/Safari etc other cpmpanies are stealing.... welll it's your choice... I may even better make own player in Visual Basic .NET express 2010 (free) and feel comfortable about it ;-) and it would be better program because winamp is not going improve the way I advice (hope I'm wrong)...
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Old 27th October 2010, 00:48   #20
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The redbull man,he buzzes around like a wasp,
people around him who move slowly freak out, and smack him with a newspaper.

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.
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Old 27th October 2010, 08:35   #21
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i was referring to minor edits to prior posts you were making which would have been better suited to editing into the post instead of pumping up you post count (0 to 21 posts in just over an hour is post pumping as far as i'm concerned if it's all pretty much in the same thread).

no one is forcing you to use Winamp - if it doesn't fit your needs then don't use it, make your own plugins / skins and make it what you want or make your own player though just doing that is copying other people's ideas as it's been done before to quote your sentiment.

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what I REALLY like - here is WAVE output!
it is always louder than directsound...
I always wanted some wave (loud) output for videos on webpages
(online video tv etc) - can you make it?
It is interesting that you prefer Software output over hardware sound
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I for one would like to see a programable way to set an automatic way to turn on or off any and all dsp efects.
i.e. have a dsp on for lossy file formats and off for lossless formats.
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ahh forgot!, now that winamp can play video files, a way to prioritize which codec, filter, muxer, splitter, renderer, etc. is used a la monogram graphstudio 64.
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Winamp on browser is a good idea.. Can play music and brows at the same time with less application open. I hope this will not cause the browser's performance to go down.
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